Horrendous manager, the season can't end soon enough 

Are there any viable alternatives being considered for Poch?  A new manager in the summer perhaps?

 

Ruben Amorin has been mentioned. I really do not know much about him tbh. Is he any good?

6 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

Are there any viable alternatives being considered for Poch?  A new manager in the summer perhaps?

 

Ruben Amorin has been mentioned. I really do not know much about him tbh. Is he any good?

Ownership still has a hard on for De Zerbi. 

15 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

Are there any viable alternatives being considered for Poch?  A new manager in the summer perhaps?

 

Ruben Amorin has been mentioned. I really do not know much about him tbh. Is he any good?

Know nothing about him but he's certainly the hipsters choice. On the face of it I can't see what the fuss is about - he's been at Sporting Lisbon for years and has a solitary farmers league title to show for it.

On 28/02/2024 at 07:46, dansubrosa said:

I seriously can’t get my head around people who scoff at Tuchel nowadays, I mean he won us the champions league when no one saw it coming.

Werner, Havertz and Mount as our front three for christs sake.

I find it abit disrespectful especially after how he steered us through all the controversy with the war in Ukraine and sanctions, and the takeover. I thought he handled it all impeccably and he seemed to be at home here. He even wrote tweets after leaving which was really out of character, I don’t recall him being on social media previously so it shows how much it meant to him. He didn’t do it for any previous clubs and I doubt he will for Bayern.

He was our chance of a long term manager and we blew it.

TT as long term manager? 

You must be joking. 😂😂😂

TT will laugh at you if you give him this team. 

3 hours ago, Bob stark said:

TT as long term manager? 

You must be joking. 😂😂😂

TT will laugh at you if you give him this team. 

Tuchel cant work with the best team in the Bundesliga with the best striker in the world. 

23 hours ago, strider6004 said:

We did win things under Tuchel yet never looked like winning the league, his football by passing around at the back in the U formation was the most frustrating football I had seen for some time. it appeared almost like boring the opposition to death to find some space to exploit.

The odd match though was excellent the way we played against Atletico Madrid in the CL was top drawer yet a lot was more like the former with the U formation.

I'm not sure on Poch either yet think with the money situation and FFP we need to be careful and while we are in the top half of the table and having success in cups it would be madness to get rid of him.

We are likely to face FFP sanctions this summer if the football media talk is correct not many managers will be interested in coming here until they know the situation is resolved.

 

The first 10 games or so the seaosn after the CL win we absoloutely looked like we could win the league. We were flying. Then both wingbacks got injured and it all fell apart.

47 minutes ago, Zeta said:

The first 10 games or so the seaosn after the CL win we absoloutely looked like we could win the league. We were flying. Then both wingbacks got injured and it all fell apart.

Absolutely right. A great example of what happens when a team is missing key players. 

First 10 games we were won 8 drawn 1 lost 1 goals for 26 and goals against 3. Top of the table by 3 points, and 5 ahead of Man City. 

Then we get some injuries and the next 10 games, we are won 4, drawn 5, lost 1, goals for 17 and goals against 11, and all of a sudden we are 8 points behind Man City and playing catch up with a depleted squad. 

Doesn't matter who the manager is ... there will always be a performance hit if you can't field your best players, and the more players you miss the more significant that becomes.

56 minutes ago, Zeta said:

The first 10 games or so the seaosn after the CL win we absoloutely looked like we could win the league. We were flying. Then both wingbacks got injured and it all fell apart.

Tactically I have never seen manager as good as TT. 

Tuchel was the best tactical manger ever, yet had no idea what to do when we lost 2 players to Injury. That doesn't sound like he was all that now does it.

So when he leaves and I believe he will leave who will get the job?

5 minutes ago, El regreso said:

So when he leaves and I believe he will leave who will get the job?

The four standout candidates who could be available in the summer are Alonso, Flick, Amorim, and De Zerbi. 

I believe the club have already interviewed Amorim twice. Once before Potter's appointment and last spring during our 'exhaustive' managerial search. 

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

The four standout candidates who could be available in the summer are Alonso, Flick, Amorim, and De Zerbi. 

I believe the club have already interviewed Amorim twice. Once before Potter's appointment and last spring during our 'exhaustive' managerial search. 

No chance Alonso comes to us ... probably ever ... most likely Bayern unless Liverpool can persuade him to leave Germany.

Flick ... meh ...  

Must be a reason why no big club has moved for Amorim ... 4 years he's been at Sporting now ... ?

De Zerbi is probably the best of your 4 options, but do we really want to go and bend over to Tony Bloom again LOL. 

Personally I'd still like to give Poch time here in the hope he can win something with us. Piss-taking bragging rights over Spurs for the rest of our lifetimes if he can get a trophy with us when he didn't with them LOL

5 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

No chance Alonso comes to us ... probably ever ... most likely Bayern unless Liverpool can persuade him to leave Germany.

Flick ... meh ...  

Must be a reason why no big club has moved for Amorim ... 4 years he's been at Sporting now ... ?

De Zerbi is probably the best of your 4 options, but do we really want to go and bend over to Tony Bloom again LOL. 

Personally I'd still like to give Poch time here in the hope he can win something with us. Piss-taking bragging rights over Spurs for the rest of our lifetimes if he can get a trophy with us when he didn't with them LOL

If Poch couldn't win last Sunday then he's forever cursed. No way are we winning the FA Cup. 

Issue is that everyone around us is getting stronger and we have stood still for the past 1.5 years. The board need to be 110% sure Poch is the right man, because if we continue on next season and midway through Poch is still leading us no where, we're f**ked for the foreseeable future. Simple as. Especially if those managerial candidates have left to new clubs by then. We don't have an established spine that we can continue to rely on to carry us. 

9 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

If Poch couldn't win last Sunday then he's forever cursed. No way are we winning the FA Cup. 

Issue is that everyone around us is getting stronger and we have stood still for the past 1.5 years. The board need to be 110% sure Poch is the right man, because if we continue on next season and midway through Poch is still leading us no where, we're f**ked for the foreseeable future. Simple as. Especially if those managerial candidates have left to new clubs by then. We don't have an established spine that we can continue to rely on to carry us. 

There will always be other managerial candidates. The pay alone dictates that ... as does the turnover of managers everywhere !

Still curious why no big club has come in for Amorim ... any thoughts ?

20 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Still curious why no big club has come in for Amorim ... any thoughts ?

High release clause.

In 2022 it was €30m. Reading its €10m this summer. 

50 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

There will always be other managerial candidates. The pay alone dictates that ... as does the turnover of managers everywhere !

 

I'm really worried we end up with Flick. 

I don't think Alonso or De Zerbi come near us. I wouldn't even pick up the phone to be honest. 

Amorin I can see being who Liverpool end up with. 

I personally would be going for Arne Slot. I think he's the best option of all other names. And if we can't get him (or Amorin) then I'd actually rather just keep Poch for another year. 

I think Alonso goes to Bayern or stays another year at Bayer (then goes to Real). 

Liverpool get De Zerbi or Amorin. 

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

There will always be other managerial candidates. The pay alone dictates that ... as does the turnover of managers everywhere !

Still curious why no big club has come in for Amorim ... any thoughts ?

I think it was Football Therapy who spoke about how his type of football worked in Portugal, but that it was seen to leave the midfield exposed and wouldn’t translate well to the PL. Suicidal football with too much risk was my take from it

 

4 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Tactically I have never seen manager as good as TT. 

Carlo... Jose... would be my picks. Still to this day wobble my head at Romans decision to get rid of Carlo. 

Surprised no one is mentioning Zidane... winning coach if ever there was one and available. Probably wouldn't want a project team. 

If we get points deduction and relegation, Id be hoovering up Luton's boss or Vincent Company to get us back into the premiership. Poch would probably walk as he aint a championship manager. 

given that there is still a massive cloud over Stamford Bridge regarding FFP, this could put a lot of managers off coming near us. Fingers crossed we bag another 10/15 points and avoid relegation by stealth. 

 

 

13 minutes ago, AndyDowsleftflank said:

I think it was Football Therapy who spoke about how his type of football worked in Portugal, but that it was seen to leave the midfield exposed and wouldn’t translate well to the PL. Suicidal football with too much risk was my take from it

I can recall that Portuguese guy on here who was giving us the local view on the Enzo transfer saying that he didn't think Amorin and his style of football would do very well here. Chaos ball I think he called it ... can't remember what thread that was on though. I'll have a look later if I have time ... 

4 minutes ago, olderschoolcfc said:

Carlo... Jose... would be my picks. Still to this day wobble my head at Romans decision to get rid of Carlo. 

Surprised no one is mentioning Zidane... winning coach if ever there was one and available. Probably wouldn't want a project team. 

If we get points deduction and relegation, Id be hoovering up Luton's boss or Vincent Company to get us back into the premiership. Poch would probably walk as he aint a championship manager. 

given that there is still a massive cloud over Stamford Bridge regarding FFP, this could put a lot of managers off coming near us. Fingers crossed we bag another 10/15 points and avoid relegation by stealth. 

I can't see Jose coming back.

He is being shown up by his replacement at Roma who has absolutely zero pedigree as a manager, other than a very brief spell in Serie B. It's not as if Roma had any mitigating circumstances to explain their performance this season either. I think their only serious injury is Tammy, and they had Lukaku on loan to replace him.

There is also the small matter of Mourinho being heavily connected to the Abramovich era, which the current owners have been trying to move on from throughout the club. In fact I don't think we'd hire any previous managers from that era, so Carlo ruled out as well in that case (if he'd even come ... )

As for Zidane ... surely if he wanted to work in England he'd have done so by now ? The PL has been the highest profile league in the world for a long time, and he's never shown any desire to be part of it before.

Seems like the biggest reason the club keep looking at Amorin is his use of younger players. His football does seem tailored for Liverpool post Klopp. 

46 minutes ago, olderschoolcfc said:

Carlo... Jose... would be my picks. Still to this day wobble my head at Romans decision to get rid of Carlo. 

Surprised no one is mentioning Zidane... winning coach if ever there was one and available. Probably wouldn't want a project team. 

If we get points deduction and relegation, Id be hoovering up Luton's boss or Vincent Company to get us back into the premiership. Poch would probably walk as he aint a championship manager. 

given that there is still a massive cloud over Stamford Bridge regarding FFP, this could put a lot of managers off coming near us. Fingers crossed we bag another 10/15 points and avoid relegation by stealth. 

 

 

You keep mentioning FFP. You need to relax. 

We are not going to be relegated because of FFP. There is no massive cloud. 

Even if we get punished, which isn't a guarantee, there is zero precedent for anything exceeding a 10 point deduction. Everton got a 6 point deduction. 

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Seems like the biggest reason the club keep looking at Amorin is his use of younger players. His football does seem tailored for Liverpool post Klopp. 

I wouldn't go near the Liverpool job if I was a manager, on a hiding to nothing following klopp unless they win at least the league. Just hold on, let someone else take the fall, then take it after them.