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Poch In or Out? The Mega-thread Merged

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28 minutes ago, Chelsea1985 said:

Inzaghi was in the champions league final last season and is currently on course to win Serie A at a canter. Simeone has won multiple league titles as an underdog in La Liga and been in two champions league finals. I would rather take my chances with either of those guys than De Zerbi 

Inzaghi isn't going anywhere near us, why on earth would he leave Inter?

5 hours ago, timetowaste said:

Does go to show that the journalists, even the ones who are usually decent, have no idea what our plans are for the summer. Yesterday we were after Amorim, De Zerbi or Alonso and today it's Flick, Howe or Lopetegui

From the same reporter. Ben Jacobs, pffft

12 hours ago, Chelsea1985 said:

Inzaghi was in the champions league final last season and is currently on course to win Serie A at a canter. Simeone has won multiple league titles as an underdog in La Liga and been in two champions league finals. I would rather take my chances with either of those guys than De Zerbi 

Serie A league which seems horrednously weak and got to a chamipons league final after beating Porto, Benfica and AC Milan.

Simeone, yeah has historically done well. But he's literally never left Madrid, plays horrible football and has spent over 1.2 billion as the manager of an underdog. 

I'm not going to sit and argue that De Zerbi or anyone we are currently linked to are better or worse, but my genuine opinion and my main reason for being hesitant about Poch leaving is that, other than Klopp, there arent going to be any top managers out of work or availble this summer.

Anyone else is a gamble of similar proportion to keeping Poch for another year.

1 hour ago, Niall1905 said:

Simeone, yeah has historically done well. But he's literally never left Madrid, plays horrible football and has spent over 1.2 billion as the manager of an underdog. 

Simeone would be a disaster here. He'd be arrested after a month for pulling the players' shorts down to check whether they have any cojones

3 hours ago, Niall1905 said:

Serie A league which seems horrednously weak and got to a chamipons league final after beating Porto, Benfica and AC Milan.

Simeone, yeah has historically done well. But he's literally never left Madrid, plays horrible football and has spent over 1.2 billion as the manager of an underdog. 

I'm not going to sit and argue that De Zerbi or anyone we are currently linked to are better or worse, but my genuine opinion and my main reason for being hesitant about Poch leaving is that, other than Klopp, there arent going to be any top managers out of work or availble this summer.

Anyone else is a gamble of similar proportion to keeping Poch for another year.

Tbf if it weren't for a certain Donkey up front, City were well on their way in losing another European cup final. 

On 08/03/2024 at 10:34, Niall1905 said:

Serie A league which seems horrednously weak and got to a chamipons league final after beating Porto, Benfica and AC Milan.

Simeone, yeah has historically done well. But he's literally never left Madrid, plays horrible football and has spent over 1.2 billion as the manager of an underdog. 

I'm not going to sit and argue that De Zerbi or anyone we are currently linked to are better or worse, but my genuine opinion and my main reason for being hesitant about Poch leaving is that, other than Klopp, there arent going to be any top managers out of work or availble this summer.

Anyone else is a gamble of similar proportion to keeping Poch for another year.

I assume you don’t watch much Serie A If you think it’s a “horrendously weak” league. There’s an argument to say it’s been the strongest league in Europe this season and last, but that’s for another day. 

If Lukaku could finish, Inzaghi may very well have won the champions league. Inter were comfortably the better team in the final

5 hours ago, Chelsea1985 said:

I assume you don’t watch much Serie A If you think it’s a “horrendously weak” league. There’s an argument to say it’s been the strongest league in Europe this season and last, but that’s for another day. 

If Lukaku could finish, Inzaghi may very well have won the champions league. Inter were comfortably the better team in the final

Yes, funny the role Lukaku played in the last couple of seasons. We would have beat Real in the 1/4 tie if Lukaku could finish any one of those big chances, Inter would have won the CL if not for him to miss. If there's a more influential player in the CL in the last 2 seasons, for the wrong reasons 🤫  Europa league is his level, he will keep banging them in for fun until the final

On 08/03/2024 at 03:08, WhiteWall said:

Someone explain to me then why, having uplifted Jose's team immediately without any changes and currently schooling de Zerbi, de Rossi isn't even in the conversation anywhere/

 

 

If you want to use this argument then Ole should be your no 1 choice 

1 hour ago, Bob stark said:

If you want to use this argument then Ole should be your no 1 choice 

It wasn't meant as a serious post, more as a touch of realism about de Zerbi. As was mentioned de Rossi has only just started.  I don't recall OGS having this level of bounce at OT so I am not totally sure of the point that you are trying to make

24 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

It wasn't meant as a serious post, more as a touch of realism about de Zerbi. As was mentioned de Rossi has only just started.  I don't recall OGS having this level of bounce at OT so I am not totally sure of the point that you are trying to make

As interim Ole had an incredible record

On 05/03/2024 at 03:08, Gol15 said:

I don't see anything special about De Zerbi. In fact I don't even believe that we should be looking at a PL manager right now.

Michel looks like the perfect person for the job, Girona might not have the depth to win La-Liga but he made a good team;

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His highest valued player is from Brazil that has 7 goals and 7 assists so far in 26 matches which is great for a 19 year old that is on loan, it shows that he can coach younger players and make it work fast.

Also his top buy was his striker, he signed Dovbyk for peanuts and so far he scored 14 goals in 24 appearances and made 5 assists.

Michel has managed borderline relegation teams but he's clearly a good manager that would be a great candidate for our squad.

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Michel's highest valued player is a 19 year old Savio that is on loan

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This manager makes youth into top players. Would be insane not to look at Michel as the potential new manager, he's 2nd in La-Liga with a 200m valued squad.

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

Michel's highest valued player is a 19 year old Savio that is on loan

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This manager makes youth into top players. Would be insane not to look at Michel as the potential new manager, he's 2nd in La-Liga with a 200m valued squad.

While I’d agree with you that he’s not looking too bad a coach, he hasn’t got enough experience in La Liga, having been mostly involved in the promotions from the second division to La liga of Rayo, Huesca and Girona. He’s doing a good job but I think we can’t get carried away just yet. Now, if he was available right now, sack Poch and try him til the end of the season, no problem with that.

i don’t know if any of you have watched Girona play, but they look good and are a very entertaining side, similar style to City.

I guess most of you want CFC to win all the time and to win every trophy every year, I detest us losing to Liverpool, West Ham, Newcastle, Man City and that's about it. 

So my feeling is, no way should we be sacking Pochettino, I wouldn't have sacked Lampard first time around. 

And as we know playing in England is different and managing a small team in Spain is totally different to managing a big team in England. 

I WANT STABILITY AT CFC. 

Hopefully W Fofana comes back close to his best, that would be a massive help. R James getting a good run in the side. That's it, that's all we need at the moment. People talk about a No.9, no, football has changed due to the massive improvement in pitches. 

32 minutes ago, Llangennech said:

I guess most of you want CFC to win all the time and to win every trophy every year, I detest us losing to Liverpool, West Ham, Newcastle, Man City and that's about it. 

So my feeling is, no way should we be sacking Pochettino, I wouldn't have sacked Lampard first time around. 

And as we know playing in England is different and managing a small team in Spain is totally different to managing a big team in England. 

I WANT STABILITY AT CFC. 

Hopefully W Fofana comes back close to his best, that would be a massive help. R James getting a good run in the side. That's it, that's all we need at the moment. People talk about a No.9, no, football has changed due to the massive improvement in pitches. 

It hasn't changed that much. You still need to get the ball in the net. And that's where we are severely lacking. A quality forward who can consistently finish solves the bulk of our problems.

26 minutes ago, just said:

It hasn't changed that much. You still need to get the ball in the net. And that's where we are severely lacking. A quality forward who can consistently finish solves the bulk of our problems.

You start at the back, you fight and run your blood to water, 100% effort 100% of the time, if you can have a little bit of, you know, on top, and score a "nice" looking goal then that's just an added bonus. Make yourselves difficult to beat. This is football 101 isn't it? It's the case in every sport that I know. 

9 hours ago, Llangennech said:

You start at the back, you fight and run your blood to water, 100% effort 100% of the time, 

And our current manager cant get any of that out of this team, in fact after every half time talk he saps them of all energy, strength, fight etc.

12 hours ago, just said:

It hasn't changed that much. You still need to get the ball in the net. And that's where we are severely lacking. A quality forward who can consistently finish solves the bulk of our problems.

 

😁😁😁

1 hour ago, olderschoolcfc said:

Chelsea fans would reject that bald slap headed sex pest as our manager because his "tippy tappy" football would be deemed sheeeeiiiiittt. 

 

Sex Pest?

 

5 hours ago, dkw said:

And our current manager cant get any of that out of this team, in fact after every half time talk he saps them of all energy, strength, fight etc.

The injuries excuse I've learned to accept as a hinderance (despite of the 12 out only James and Nkunku would start for us), but the biggest thing for me which has lost all my confidence in Poch, is the poor game management which directly contributes to our lack of progression. The players being young excuses wears thin when we are 18th in the league based on 2nd half performances. 

2 hours ago, Bob stark said:

 

😁😁😁

As he says, it might make a difference, as has been seen in the World Cups of 1982 and 1998 you have to build a team from the back if you want to win trophies. A top No.9 is just the cherry on top. There aren't many top strikers around as I've said before on here. I'm sure there were more top quality No.9's around when I was a kid in the 80's. 

As I've said before, I think the reason why there aren't many No.9's anymore is due to better pitches which has changed football. 

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