7 minutes ago, The Boehly Babes said:

He’s better than Madueke at least…

I'm not sure he is, or that this is any sort of praise at all...

11 minutes ago, The Boehly Babes said:

He’s better than Madueke at least…

He's not. Offers little beyond foot speed and a terrible attitude. Same number of goals last season as Madueke in all competitions in 15 more appearances.

12 minutes ago, dermott said:

He's not. Offers little beyond foot speed and a terrible attitude. Same number of goals last season as Madueke in all competitions in 15 more appearances.

Agree! If a section of our fan base think Madueke acts brainless a times, Granacho is worse. Decision making is poor, shoots when a pass is a better option.

I imagine they are only interested in Garnacho because he is Fernandez's mate (keep the star boy happy) and represents an "opportunistic" purchase on the cheap. Possibly also "marketable" in South America to increase the club's reach on that continent ? A load of cheap ugly tatts and a silly haircut and that partially shaved eyebrow nonsense seems to be what the tiktok generation of today think is great for some reason that eludes me.

21 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

I imagine they are only interested in Garnacho because he is Fernandez's mate (keep the star boy happy) and represents an "opportunistic" purchase on the cheap. Possibly also "marketable" in South America to increase the club's reach on that continent ? A load of cheap ugly tatts and a silly haircut and that partially shaved eyebrow nonsense seems to be what the tiktok generation of today think is great for some reason that eludes me.

Or maybe it's another genius move similar to the Gallagher one, where we need to sell a player but to sweeten the deal we end up giving them more money for a useless footballer in return. So say sell Nkunku to Utd for about £45m and we buy this useless gremlin for £60m. £45 million in the bank, £60 million spread over 7 years and we're making money. BlueCo maths

He's fast, gets the ball in the box a lot and shoots a lot. Would theoretically dovetail well with both Delap and Jackson. His alienation from Man Utd would hopefully mean that we could get him for a cheaper fee than a 20-year-old Argentinian international would otherwise cost. Other than that I don't like him or his manicured eyebrows.

Actually will quit watching altogether to save my belongings from breaking every weekend.

I think he would be a bad influence on Enzo.

2 hours ago, ducavis said:

Agree! If a section of our fan base think Madueke acts brainless a times, Granacho is worse. Decision making is poor, shoots when a pass is a better option.

It makes zero sense, none, zip, nadda, when you consider he has the worst dribbling success rate out of any winger in the Premier League, yet our dimwitted Sporting Directors want him in a system that is reliant on isolated wingers taking players on.

This signing would probably be the tipping point for me. I can't see myself tuning in next season to watch Sanchez, Jackson and Garnacho starting for us.

So he has the worst shot conversion AND worst dribbling rate, why on earth are we signing him? What are the “data people” seeing?

12 minutes ago, JM7 said:

So he has the worst shot conversion AND worst dribbling rate, why on earth are we signing him? What are the “data people” seeing?

Who has said we are signing him apart from a handful of clickbait Twatter twerps?

49 minutes ago, dermott said:

Who has said we are signing him apart from a handful of clickbait Twatter twerps?

I think the sage (brown envelope) that is Matt Law ran with the headline. When you get into the article it is all surmising and guesswork with a recurring undertone of haphazard club briefing

I have always hated this smug brat whenever he played against us, what're his good points?

I don't watch enough Yanited to have a firm pov on him

2 hours ago, Deino said:

I have always hated this smug brat whenever he played against us, what're his good points?

I don't watch enough Yanited to have a firm pov on him

They are collectively rubbing their hands in glee that the stand the chance of getting rid of him and simultaneously pulling our pants down as well.

If they end up with Nkunku and he blows up there it will be a Chelsea fck over trifecta for them

2 hours ago, Deino said:

I have always hated this smug brat whenever he played against us, what're his good points?

I don't watch enough Yanited to have a firm pov on him

He's capable of the sublime, but he's so full of himself and immature with his football that it's hard to see him ever reach those levels. He's the perfect example of having too much too soon.

He wants to be the star man when there is so much of his game that he needs to learn. He thinks he's already at the top, but the reality is that he is nowhere near it.

Edited June 25, 20251 yr by Scott Harris

1 hour ago, Scott Harris said:

He's capable of the sublime, but he's so full of himself and immature with his football that it's hard to see him ever reach those levels. He's the perfect example of having too much too soon.

He wants to be the star man when there is so much of his game that he needs to learn. He thinks he's already at the top, but the reality is that he is nowhere near it.

And that's just what our young squad does not need.

On 24/06/2025 at 02:57, The Boehly Babes said:

He’s better than Madueke at least…

He's more skillful than Madueke, while Madueke is taller and far more powerful; we tend to say better, but better in what? More influential in which circumstances?
I do agree Garnacho may have a higher ceiling tho.

Pace and power, or even height, are always important esp for certain positions, but skill is still the most important attribute at a top club by far. I see a lot of pace and power at the smaller clubs in England, actually skill on the ball is a lot more difficult to find. That said, although I'm not a fan esp considering he's already 23, Madueke is a useful player esp because he's a good shot; it is more up to him whether a rotation role suits him or not.

Garnacho would still come as a project, being 20yo anyway, so would fit right in. 😉

13 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

He's capable of the sublime, but he's so full of himself and immature with his football that it's hard to see him ever reach those levels. He's the perfect example of having too much too soon.

He wants to be the star man when there is so much of his game that he needs to learn. He thinks he's already at the top, but the reality is that he is nowhere near it.

Oh god no. We really don't need that type of bs. One is enough

7 hours ago, Deino said:

Oh god no. We really don't need that type of bs. One is enough

The 'He's capable of the sublime' part is he scored a cracking over head kick once.

7 hours ago, acaeus said:

He's more skillful than Madueke, while Madueke is taller and far more powerful; we tend to say better, but better in what? More influential in which circumstances?
I do agree Garnacho may have a higher ceiling tho.

Pace and power, or even height, are always important esp for certain positions, but skill is still the most important attribute at a top club by far. I see a lot of pace and power at the smaller clubs in England, actually skill on the ball is a lot more difficult to find. That said, although I'm not a fan esp considering he's already 23, Madueke is a useful player esp because he's a good shot; it is more up to him whether a rotation role suits him or not.

Garnacho would still come as a project, being 20yo anyway, so would fit right in. 😉

More skillful in what way?

According to WhoScored.com, Garnacho has the worst dribble success rate in the Premier League this season, with a 21.6% success rate after attempting 37 dribbles and completing only 8.

Missed 25 big chances of which Noni missed 14. I'm not a massive Madueke fan but I take him every time over that Gremlin.

47 minutes ago, DarkMata said:

The 'He's capable of the sublime' part is he scored a cracking over head kick once.

More skillful in what way?

According to WhoScored.com, Garnacho has the worst dribble success rate in the Premier League this season, with a 21.6% success rate after attempting 37 dribbles and completing only 8.

Missed 25 big chances of which Noni missed 14. I'm not a massive Madueke fan but I take him every time over that Gremlin.

At controlling the football in tight spaces, quicker feet, and linkup play. Reckon much of that, his struggles, is down to United being a sh*tty club and team atm: he often does not have the passing option, for ex.

Also, I think it’s fair to consider his age when assessing his game; after all we do that often when talking about our young Chelsea players… I know I do.

1 hour ago, acaeus said:

At controlling the football in tight spaces, quicker feet, and linkup play. Reckon much of that, his struggles, is down to United being a sh*tty club and team atm: he often does not have the passing option, for ex.

Also, I think it’s fair to consider his age when assessing his game; after all we do that often when talking about our young Chelsea players… I know I do.

I can't see much difference, I think everyone agrees he's not the upgrade we are after. At least with Gittens or even Fofana we'll have some hope they will be good - even if they eventually disappoint us. With Garnacho there's no hope.

3 hours ago, DarkMata said:

"Player has no significant strengths"

I love that LOL

Also "weak" at crossing ... LOL ... terrific ... so not only does he have no strengths, but he's also lacking a core skill for a winger ! You'd think all this would have been noticed by our data guys, or at the very least by our talented sporting directors !

Edited June 26, 20251 yr by Sexyfootball

1 hour ago, DarkMata said:

I can't see much difference, I think everyone agrees he's not the upgrade we are after. At least with Gittens or even Fofana we'll have some hope they will be good - even if they eventually disappoint us. With Garnacho there's no hope.

Oh I can agree with that; that he wouldn't be an upgrade, esp not at this time.
On the other hand, the club does not seem to think that way.

I try to picture what a player would be able to accomplish, based on his characteristics, in a different setting. I can certainly see Madueke struggling were he playing for United, for example. I can see his strengths, pace power and directness, being completely wasted in that team as he'd be way too far from the opposition goal more often than not, to to shoot which is also a strength of his.

Edited June 26, 20251 yr by acaeus

Odds this absolute prat ends up on loan at Villa?