Just now, dermott said:

Doesn't matter. At least you are.

Thanks.👍

Breaking all the records. What a Man-Ager.

This is just weird...

I am not fully bought into the popular (here) narrative of "they only care about money and are trying to gut my club - that's why they spent a gazzion quid and are overpaying for every useless youngster". It doesn't quite feel like this theory fully adds up.

But whatever are their evil, cynical, money-motivated reasons - surely it pays to have a team that reliably gets into CL? It improves player value, if nothing else. Surely there's an experienced coach out there that will be agreeable enough and will comply with a general arrangement of "your goal each season is 3rd spot, you get a decent - if unspectacular - team to achieve this". A kind of a Villa/Emery - but with a side-business of weird mass player-trading.

Why are they hiring these obviously inadequate managers?

13 hours ago, petre ispirescu said:

I do not blame him, he was not even good enough in the first place.

Some of the players will probably be desperate for a way out this summer and some others will be shown the door. Who is going to come into this mess knowing there is no European football and the sporting directors dictate the transfers? Surely not a decent manager.

No sane person would take over at this club knowing he'd have to turn into a puppet and have little to no say on important matters.

Someone with some promise and ambition to coach an actual top team might see us as an intermediary stepping stone, worth toughing it out for a season or so. That's the best we can hope for in the foreseeable future.

15 minutes ago, _Ilya_ said:

This is just weird...

I am not fully bought into the popular (here) narrative of "they only care about money and are trying to gut my club - that's why they spent a gazzion quid and are overpaying for every useless youngster". It doesn't quite feel like this theory fully adds up.

But whatever are their evil, cynical, money-motivated reasons - surely it pays to have a team that reliably gets into CL? It improves player value, if nothing else. Surely there's an experienced coach out there that will be agreeable enough and will comply with a general arrangement of "your goal each season is 3rd spot, you get a decent - if unspectacular - team to achieve this". A kind of a Villa/Emery - but with a side-business of weird mass player-trading.

Why are they hiring these obviously inadequate managers?

Because they know bugger all about football, about running a football club, naively placing their faith in Winstanley and Stewart who must be giggling. They're running the football side of the club.

28 minutes ago, _Ilya_ said:

This is just weird...

I am not fully bought into the popular (here) narrative of "they only care about money and are trying to gut my club - that's why they spent a gazzion quid and are overpaying for every useless youngster". It doesn't quite feel like this theory fully adds up.

But whatever are their evil, cynical, money-motivated reasons - surely it pays to have a team that reliably gets into CL? It improves player value, if nothing else. Surely there's an experienced coach out there that will be agreeable enough and will comply with a general arrangement of "your goal each season is 3rd spot, you get a decent - if unspectacular - team to achieve this". A kind of a Villa/Emery - but with a side-business of weird mass player-trading.

Why are they hiring these obviously inadequate managers?

Because all the adequate managers thell them they're wrong about stuff - and their egoes can't take that

1 hour ago, _Ilya_ said:

This is just weird...

I am not fully bought into the popular (here) narrative of "they only care about money and are trying to gut my club - that's why they spent a gazzion quid and are overpaying for every useless youngster". It doesn't quite feel like this theory fully adds up.

But whatever are their evil, cynical, money-motivated reasons - surely it pays to have a team that reliably gets into CL? It improves player value, if nothing else. Surely there's an experienced coach out there that will be agreeable enough and will comply with a general arrangement of "your goal each season is 3rd spot, you get a decent - if unspectacular - team to achieve this". A kind of a Villa/Emery - but with a side-business of weird mass player-trading.

Why are they hiring these obviously inadequate managers?

They've already separated every asset the club own into individual holding companies. As far as their "evil plan" goes, it's already accomplished.

They really didn't need to care about the football side so long as they spent the agreed upon 1.75bn for the teams' development and not sell the club's shares for 10 years. They bought the club because we were a club that gets CL every year (by that point) and a strong brand with the perfect location in England.

These owners don't understand that football is a constantly growing organism that requires prudent action every time or risk losses

1 hour ago, dermott said:

Because they know bugger all about football, about running a football club, naively placing their faith in Winstanley and Stewart who must be giggling. They're running the football side of the club.

This.

This.

And this.

We should make Finkelstein our new Sporting Director/Coach/Manager. He can do it all.

I think it’s time to stop being nice.

We all know LR is not the man to take us back to challenging. If we start next season with him in charge it will be another season written off when he is sacked by Xmas or worse a spurs type disaster.

They have changed direction before they can do it again.

THIS IS NOT WORKING!

9 minutes ago, C3blue said:

I think it’s time to stop being nice.

We all know LR is not the man to take us back to challenging. If we start next season with him in charge it will be another season written off when he is sacked by Xmas or worse a spurs type disaster.

They have changed direction before they can do it again.

THIS IS NOT WORKING!

Trouble is, I think we all have next to no faith in the owners and SD's to make a decent appointment and / or let the next coach have a free rein.

If Boehly, Eghbali & Co could admit to their mistakes, fire the incompetent SD's and then appoint a coach who could also choose his own team, we might get back to looking like a proper club again. My choice would be Glasner or Iraola, just as it was before they appointed LR, but we know it won't happen and it looks like we are in for really bad period in our history. Sadly, I can only see thins getting a lot worse under this current regime.

2 hours ago, Valerie said:

Someone with some promise and ambition to coach an actual top team might see us as an intermediary stepping stone, worth toughing it out for a season or so. That's the best we can hope for in the foreseeable future.

Although I agree, we've been saying this for some years now.

The only manager with some sort of reputation that seemed to follow the trajectory of being someone to finally make the next step in his career after proving himself on the big stage was Pochettino.

Other than that it was a big gamble in Potter, plus Maresca who was a Championship manager. And Rosenior who is the most underwhelming of all.

Managers that fit the category you talk about would be Fabregas, Emery, Inzaghi, Scaloni, Deschamps, Nagelsmann. There are managers out there that are of a top quality and would probably come here, but this stupid board need to let go of their obsession of controlling absolutely everything.

Not only this club needs some leaders on the pitch and some experience, but someone proven on the touchline as well. These gambles in a crucial role as it is the managerial one must stop at some point. To be fair the only manager of this type that would be acceptable for me would the Sebastian Hoeness. But that it is a preference of mine, not somebody that is even rumoured that Chelsea are interested in.

10 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

It's like buying a property in central London.

It's value increases without doing anything.

Todd reckons we're worth more now than they paid for us. .In the meantime, first Todd,now Eghbali have been f**king around with our club as if it's their plaything, convinced that despite having no knowledge of club football that they know better than everyone else.

From day one they made decisions that weren't needed and ruined us. f**king useless clowns

I think in the second half City showed how possession actually works. But their possession is full of movement and dangerous, not just passive passing it around aimlessly for the sake of it. .

But look at the difference.

Pep in one corner and Liam in the other. .

Would Arsenal, City, Liverpool etc appoint a Rosenior as their coach ? Not his fault mind you, but it's the plan,the project, the model etc that is crushing the life out of our club

47 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

I think in the second half City showed how possession actually works. But their possession is full of movement and dangerous, not just passive passing it around aimlessly for the sake of it. .

But look at the difference.

Pep in one corner and Liam in the other. .

Would Arsenal, City, Liverpool etc appoint a Rosenior as their coach ? Not his fault mind you, but it's the plan,the project, the model etc that is crushing the life out of our club

Totally agree, the scousers would be in uproar and rightly so.

As for city, it’s where they have their possession as well. They do it on the edge of the oppositions box not their own. They are one pass or shot away from scoring, we are one pass away from conceding.

18 hours ago, timetowaste said:

We've had these briefings for every manager and they've still ended up getting the boot, hopefully this is the same

Xavi, Nagelsmann, Tuchel, Alonso, Glasner, Iraola, Bosz, Valverde, Silva, (probably missing a few more). There is a queue of experienced managers available this summer.

The thought of sticking with Rosenior while at the same time our domestic and european rivals snatch those managers up effortlessly just makes you want to break something.

2 hours ago, TheCeleryKing said:

We should make Finkelstein our new Sporting Director/Coach/Manager. He can do it all.

Well that is just Fking obvious isn't it. 😁

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Xavi, Nagelsmann, Tuchel, Alonso, Glasner, Iraola, Bosz, Valverde, Silva, (probably missing a few more). There is a queue of experienced managers available this summer.

The thought of sticking with Rosenior while at the same time our domestic and european rivals snatch those managers up effortlessly just makes you want to break something.

What makes me so angry as well is how every single football fan on this planet can see what the problems are apart from the scum we have in the board. Every reputable media outlet, opposition fan, Chelsea fan, pundits, ex Chelsea players etc are all saying how poorly we're being run and yet the board have no shame in continuing to run our beautiful club into the ground. All they can muster up is a half arsed press release about how we're going to start targeting experienced players. f**k. YOU. If they had any idea what they were doing Rosenior would be receiving his P45 in the post tomorrow, but he won't. He'll see through a humiliating home loss against Man Utd next weekend and then a semi final loss against f**king Leeds.

Liam is just a symptom of the problem so I don’t even waste my time criticizing him anymore. The reality is that if you have inexperienced owners, sporting directors, managers and players it is a recipe for disaster. If there was experience at at least one of these 4 levels the club wouldn’t be in the sh*t show they are in even with Liam as manger.

Which other Premier league teams would consider Rosenior if they had a need for a first team coach?

1 hour ago, timetowaste said:

What makes me so angry as well is how every single football fan on this planet can see what the problems are apart from the scum we have in the board. Every reputable media outlet, opposition fan, Chelsea fan, pundits, ex Chelsea players etc are all saying how poorly we're being run and yet the board have no shame in continuing to run our beautiful club into the ground. All they can muster up is a half arsed press release about how we're going to start targeting experienced players. f**k. YOU. If they had any idea what they were doing Rosenior would be receiving his P45 in the post tomorrow, but he won't. He'll see through a humiliating home loss against Man Utd next weekend and then a semi final loss against f**king Leeds.

And how the problems are so fixable.

The money is just being spent all wrong. It’s infuriating 🤬 yet it’s still happening right in front or our eyes.

£40m on Barco… are you f**king kidding me.

Edited April 13Apr 13 by C3blue

23 minutes ago, OTL said:

Which other Premier league teams would consider Rosenior if they had a need for a first team coach?

I could see a few clubs considering him but only with an experienced assistant. For example, look at what United did bringing Steve Holland in alongside Carrick. I highly doubt Carrick would have been that successful on his own.

I’ve avoided the forum until now because it’s so depressing. The problems across the board are so obvious.

Edited April 13Apr 13 by JM7

9 hours ago, OTL said:

Is he still here ! 🙁

He still needs another 50 interviews with Sky to spread his usual word salad.

6 hours ago, C3blue said:

I think it’s time to stop being nice.

We all know LR is not the man to take us back to challenging. If we start next season with him in charge it will be another season written off when he is sacked by Xmas or worse a spurs type disaster.

They have changed direction before they can do it again.

THIS IS NOT WORKING!

We need to stop being nice, but not asking for them to change direction. They need to go, and we need to force them out. Fans need to stop going to games. If they continue to line their pockets, then the fans are f**king idiots and don't care.

It’s utterly amazing that the board place NO value on experience - none in the board, SD’s, coaching staff or players.