Not proven in court....but don`t let that get in the way to brand him a racist a

 

Mr Hann clearly feels rather strongly on the subject 

 

"The judge said he didn't believe a word of Terry or Cole's testimony, didn't he? But that the prosecution lacked the single witness to contradict them. It was the most reluctant acquittal in the history of the justice system."

 

Slight case of sensationalism in that statement, I think he was just extremely bitter about the loss. 

The thing is that, like most sets of fans, they boo and abuse John Terry because they enjoy it.

Yes they hate him of course, he is Chelsea through and through and as showcased once again yesterday they hate us immensely.

 

But let's be honest- do those mongs throwing objects at our players (ranging from lighters to glass bottles) really still feel outraged about the (alleged) racial abuse? Do they actively give a sh*t about any other two year old incident of racism? Perhaps some do... I would bet that most don't actually give a sh*t.

 

Fact is they hate Chelsea and like to abuse our players and will use any stick possible to beat them with. And that is a big and popular stick.

 

They would have more of a moral high-ground to pretend to still be outraged about it if they weren't hurling objects at our players at every possible opportunity- make your mind up chaps, are you angels or thugs?

 

I loved the way JT celebrated in front of them as I know it will have wound them up. If it was me I would probably have done an Adebayor when we scored so I think JT was fairly restrained under the circumstances.

Edited April 13, 201511 yr by mclovin83

"The judge said he didn't believe a word of Terry or Cole's testimony, didn't he? But that the prosecution lacked the single witness to contradict them. It was the most reluctant acquittal in the history of the justice system."

 

It was the most exaggerated statement in the history of article comments...

And people wonder why Terry won't go back into international football, why would he want to play for a team supported by the same pathetic fans that give him constant abuse ?

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/premierleague/article4409159.ece

Interesting article about JT.

https://vine.co/v/euiBtUVb7dt

 

"f**king av that!"

Mr Hann clearly feels rather strongly on the subject 

 

"The judge said he didn't believe a word of Terry or Cole's testimony, didn't he? But that the prosecution lacked the single witness to contradict them. It was the most reluctant acquittal in the history of the justice system."

 

Slight case of sensationalism in that statement, I think he was just extremely bitter about the loss. 

Actually very sound logic when it comes to verbal racial abuse.  In fact, if no witness was made available I struggle to understand how this case even made it to court considering the "victim" didn't know even hear anything and had to be told after the match he had allegedly been racially abused. If no one actually witnessed it and the victim didnt even hear it, could anyone rationally qualify that as criminal racial abuse worthy of an such an investigation costing lord knows how much? Racism is a very serious issue but I thought the whole thing was just a very expensive joke.

Actually very sound logic when it comes to verbal racial abuse. In fact, if no witness was made available I struggle to understand how this case even made it to court considering the "victim" didn't know even hear anything and had to be told after the match he had allegedly been racially abused. If no one actually witnessed it and the victim didnt even hear it, could anyone rationally qualify that as criminal racial abuse worthy of an such an investigation costing lord knows how much? Racism is a very serious issue but I thought the whole thing was just a very expensive joke.

The main evidence was footage and two lip readers/ speech therapists interpretation of it, it was inconclusive and Terry's explanation made sense to me. I posted the trial report on here somewhere.

Edited April 13, 201511 yr by Droogba

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/premierleague/article4409159.ece

Interesting article about JT.

Can you copy and paste please?

Can you copy and paste please?

Best my technophobic self can manage. Trying alternative.

Can anyone help please, 'file too big' ?

Edited April 13, 201511 yr by Droogba

Can you copy and paste please?

 

Yeah I'd like this too. Anyone have any paywall tips? It used to be that 'incognito mode' would do it but they seem to have cottoned onto that strategy now.

Yeah I'd like this too. Anyone have any paywall tips? It used to be that 'incognito mode' would do it but they seem to have cottoned onto that strategy now.

I tried taking a photo of the article with my phone, but couldn't load its size. Am going to try scanning.

Here is the article from The Times from Tony Evans:

 

 

Why John Terry should win player of the year — but won’t

 

Against the backdrop of Loftus Road, it is hard to see John Terry as anything other than despicable. Even more than his missed penalty in the Champions League final against Manchester United in Moscow, this patch of west London witnessed the nadir of his career.

 

There, against Queens Park Rangers four years ago, he shouted a racist phrase at Anton Ferdinand. It is never quite a return to the scene of a crime for the Chelsea captain because Westminster magistrates’ court ruled that the exchange was not criminal. The FA, with a lower burden of proof, found Terry guilty of racist abuse, banned him for four games and fined him £220,000.

 

The evidence yesterday was that he should be the primary candidate for the player of the year awards. This season, the 34-year-old has been magnificent. In the heat of a derby, with the home fans hurling abuse and his own supporters singing his praises, he was the centre of attention. His composure never faltered. He seems oblivious to the baggage he carries and the level of invective it generates away from Stamford Bridge.

 

Others would struggle to cope. Terry never seems to have difficulty with it. This knack would be admirable in a man it was possible to admire. It would be wrong to dismiss his impact on the pitch, though.

More than any other area of the pitch, the centre of defence appeared to be the place where Chelsea’s manpower was lacking. José Mourinho complained about being short-handed up front, but his squad is one experienced central defender short. It would not have taken too many injuries and suspensions to cause a crisis in the rearguard.

 

Only Terry, Branislav Ivanovic and Eden Hazard have played in every league game this season. Hazard gets all the attention and will probably win the end-of-season awards, but Chelsea would have won the league without the Belgium forward. They would not have won it without Terry.

 

Chelsea played what looked like a dangerously high line yesterday. Even though QPR are not the quickest up front, it still left plenty of space for Charlie Austin and Bobby Zamora to run into. Terry could have been exposed, but the defender’s anticipation and use of space compensate for any lack of pace.

 

His impact is not confined to tackles and blocks. All the best central defenders are talkers and Terry chatters away, cajoling, chiding, instructing and encouraging those around him. It is too bad that the most memorable words of his career were a racist insult.

 

Much about the Chelsea captain is objectionable. It would be hard to argue against the Football Writers’ Association’s “precept and example” objections to Terry winning their award, but Luis Suárez, last season’s recipient, fatally undermined the idea that character comes into consideration. Those who voted for the Uruguay forward would be hypocritical to cite Terry’s equally repugnant transgressions to deprive him of consideration for the award.

 

He will not win, though. Morality will not come into it. Hazard, with his dribbles and feints, will get many more votes. Harry Kane, too. Attackers dominate both the Professional Footballers’ Association award and the writers’ prizes. Terry got the votes of the players in 2005 — when his rap sheet was relatively short — but before that you have to go back to 1993, when Paul McGrath topped the poll, for another defender.

 

For the writers, a defensive winner is still deeper in the mists of time, with Steve Nicol handed the statue in 1989. Even then, the Scot caught the eye as much for his deployment as a midfield marauder as his adaptability across the back four.

 

Terry has been the best player in the Premier League this season, the one with the most influence on a team heading for the title, but it is a good thing that he will lose out when the individual prizes are decided. At least then we could convince ourselves that Suárez was an aberration.

 

He might reflect, however, that had he been a forward, he could have behaved like a scumbag and still cleaned up in the awards season.

Edited April 13, 201511 yr by youlots

Tony Evans is a brave and wise man for writing that opinion piece.

I make no pretense of my admiration of our Captain, Leader and Legend. Frankly, much like the man himself, I couldn't give a sh*t what others think of him but it's nice all the same to see some high praise once in a while.

Here is the article from The Times from Tony Evans................

 

Thanks youlots. Appreciated.

Michael Hann, QPR Fan and Guardian football journalist had a mini melt down on the match report yesterday. 

 

A Chelsea fan in so many words said "I don't know why QPR fans booed JT for the whole game, it's not like it's going to put him off, why don't they sing about their own team?" 

 

To which he replied:

 

"QPR fans boo John Terry because he racially abused one of QPR's players. And they boo Chelsea because they're the local rivals. And they boo them even more now because they closed ranks behind their captain, who racially abused one of QPR's players. Among the things QPR fans haven't done … pushed a black man off a train in Paris, from a carriage in which Chelsea players were singing racist songs in praise of their racist captain, sung offensive songs en masse all the way though a minute's silence for the victims of Hillsborough before an FA Cup semi-final …"

 

Now ignoring the tarring all us Chelsea fans with the same brush the bit that gets me is that they say the main issue they take is being JT abused a QPR player.

 

But can QPR fans honestly say they have a particular bond with Anton Ferdinand? I mean where is he now? In January 2013 they shipped him off on loan to Turkey and then he was released from his contract. 

 

He then signed for Turkish side Antalyaspor and made only 3 appearances all season. He's now at Reading (apparently) where he's only made 2 appearances. 

 

Point being, considering the noise they were making yesterday you could be forgiven for thinking JT had attacked a club legend... He didn't. In fact if you asked most of those booing fans yesterday why they were booing so much I'm sure they couldn't give you an answer much beyond "Terry's a racist". 

 

Ivanovic has never been accused of racially abusing anyone, so what was the excuse for having a lighter thrown at his head? Or the hard case trying to pick a fight with Oscar, all 8 stone of him. Why don't the likes of Hann just be honest instead of trying to justify their abuse of JT with a load of sanctimonious drivel.

 

Presumably, Hann has forgotten the QPR chant of "Drogba's got AIDS" in a match a few years back and also missed the irony of them yesterday cheering on a player who once beat the living daylights out of a black team mate.

He might reflect, however, that had he been a forward, he could have behaved like a scumbag and still cleaned up in the awards season.

 

Brilliant line

He finished it off nicely, but his hatred of Terry is strong.

end of the day terry has been the best defender in the prem/europe this season at 34 bloomin years old and on/off for over 10yrs.

 

in 5 years time we and any footy fan worth his salt will remember that and his talent, just like the numerous other PL legends.

'The fans couldn't give an answer' because they are not capable of stringing a sentence together, load of Jeremy Kyle watching, sh*t c**t scum that would get the sh*t kicked out of them by your average 16 year old. 

I'm not sure I've ever seen a player who uses his 'weak' foot as often as Terry does. If I'd only just started watching him, I imagine I genuinely wouldn't know which was his natural foot.

 

Those who voted for the Uruguay forward would be hypocritical to cite Terry’s equally repugnant transgressions to deprive him of consideration for the award.

 

From the Times article posted above.

 

Evans makes some very good points, but does he really think what Terry (allegedly) did was on the same scale as Suarez? Not even the tossers at the FA thought that.

Edited April 14, 201511 yr by Backbiter

From the Times article posted above.

 

Evans makes some very good points, but does he really think what Terry (allegedly) did was on the same scale as Suarez? Not even the tossers at the FA thought that.

 

i had the exact same thought man, tweed style journo, suppose its the times after all!

 

indeed a frikin ridiculous statement

 

must of spilt some cous cous on his tweed at lunch!

From the Times article posted above.

 

Evans makes some very good points, but does he really think what Terry (allegedly) did was on the same scale as Suarez? Not even the tossers at the FA thought that.

 

If anything that makes the point he is arguing even more valid. 

 

Suarez was charged and banned for racially abusing an opponent and biting an opponent (for what was then the 2nd time in his career) during his short spell in English football and yet for a considerably more tame rap sheet Terry is unlikely to even be considered for PotY let alone voted for despite being the leading player by some margin in his position this season. In fact it isn't even debatable, he HAS been the best centre back in the league this season and by extension should be a contender for all Player of the Year awards. 

 

Sadly it's become too fashionable to hate Terry but I'm sure he'll look back on this season, two more winners medals in hand and care little what personal awards and plaudits he receives.

Capello says Terry is "one of the best":

 

“He is one of the best. They [England] haven’t got a lot of defenders but they sometimes have problems. It’s better to have a player like John Terry than not have him. But I don’t think he has the chances to play with the national team any more.

“They [the FA] decided he could not play with the national team and I didn’t understand because he was not guilty,” Capello said. “When it happened I said to the president [then FA chairman David Bernstein], ‘You decided he’s guilty? No, he’s not guilty’. “I fought for this and they said, ‘No, you can’t decide about the player, you need to wait for the court decision and everything’. I said, ‘Why have you decided before I’ve asked you?’”

 

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/16/fabio-capello-john-terry-england-anton-ferdinand-sack-chelsea-qpr