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He is beginning to look overrated. Should have saved the first goal after Pedro error

 

I have thought this for some time to be honest, right back to when he was getting massive amounts of praise at Atletico Madrid. It seemed like every time Courtois would make a save, he would get huge praise, even for routine saves. I don't think he is anywhere near Cech at his best and i still think Cech is a better goalkeeper overall. Coutois is a good goalkeeper but i honestly don't think he is a world class goalkeeper.

He hasn't been at his best since the injury, it's not surprising, will take a while. Everything could possible gone wrong has gone wrong, most teams would be a trouble losing their first choice GK for a few months.I watched the Pool vs Arsenal highlights, both GKs should have done better with at least 1 of the goals conceded



Was just as guilty as Branna and Zouma today, in watching their 3rd goal.

Seems like he's not a vocal keeper, when Remy cleared the originally cross if the keeper called for it he would have easily claimed it.

The everton 3rd goal, I wonder why couldn't he just backpedalling?  by turning his back, he lost sight of the ball as a result and boom..

 

Keeper is all about composure and anticipation, even more on the latter..  



Not as good as Petr cech. Yet. We gambled he would get there.

Could argue when cech started he's Chelsea career he had a better defence and a superb maka protecting the back four. Cech couldn't last forever we had to make that gamble

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Could argue when cech started he's Chelsea career he had a better defence and a superb maka protecting the back four. Cech couldn't last forever we had to make that gamble

No argument there, way way better defense and midfield. Actually to way better team period.

Could argue when cech started he's Chelsea career he had a better defence and a superb maka protecting the back four. Cech couldn't last forever we had to make that gamble

 

True, but if we had Cech now i don't think we would concede as many goals. Cech is fantastic at keeping the defense organised and is always composed, i don't see this with Courtois. Cech also doesn't get beat from long range strikes as often as Courtois and when he makes a save he tends to push the ball away from the danger area.

 

Personally, i don't think Courtois is anywhere near the level people hyped him up to be. Cech is still well ahead in my opinion.



I can honestly see Real appealing their transfer ban and getting it put off until this time next year. They will likely be choosing between De Gea and Tibo as their next number 1.

I can honestly see Real appealing their transfer ban and getting it put off until this time next year. They will likely be choosing between De Gea and Tibo as their next number 1.

 

If we sell Courtois after giving Cech to Arsenal i will be furious.

True, but if we had Cech now i don't think we would concede as many goals. Cech is fantastic at keeping the defense organised and is always composed, i don't see this with Courtois. Cech also doesn't get beat from long range strikes as often as Courtois and when he makes a save he tends to push the ball away from the danger area.

Personally, i don't think Courtois is anywhere near the level people hyped him up to be. Cech is still well ahead in my opinion.

Cech let in his fair share of long rangers as well and was always a bit of a liability when facing crosses and corners. Football fans sure are fickle, after a couple of less then stellar games this year Courtois all of a sudden was never that good and of course everyone was saying this all along. Wouldnt be surprised to see that opinion reverse again before the season is over

Cech let in his fair share of long rangers as well and was always a bit of a liability when facing crosses and corners. Football fans sure are fickle, after a couple of less then stellar games this year Courtois all of a sudden was never that good and of course everyone was saying this all along. Wouldnt be surprised to see that opinion reverse again before the season is over

 

I'm not being fickle at all, i have always said Courtois is overrated. Back when there was a thread on here asking who should be Chelsea's number 1 goalkeeper, i always said Cech. 

 

Cech let's in long range strikes but all keepers do, i'm saying that he isn't as easy to beat from long range strikes as Courtois is. I don't actually think Cech is a liability from corners at all, if anything, i would say Courtois is more of a concern from them right now. Courtois drops or flaps at the ball more often than he should. Courtois is more prone to making mistakes than Cech ever was for us. In Cech's decade with us, he only made a handfall of error's, Courtois is already past a handfall with us.



I'm not being fickle at all, i have always said Courtois is overrated. Back when there was a thread on here asking who should be Chelsea's number 1 goalkeeper, i always said Cech.

Cech let's in long range strikes but all keepers do, i'm saying that he isn't as easy to beat from long range strikes as Courtois is. I don't actually think Cech is a liability from corners at all, if anything, i would say Courtois is more of a concern from them right now. Courtois drops or flaps at the ball more often than he should. Courtois is more prone to making mistakes than Cech ever was for us. In Cech's decade with us, he only made a handfall of error's, Courtois is already past a handfall with us.

The club had to act cech isn't going to last forever so we need a new number for the future courtois for me needs to talk more but he will be a top player for us

Courtois is 23 his peak is 7-10 years away and he is one of the best keepers in the world. 
Zouma who is 21 and his peak is 6-8 years away and he isn't classed as one of the best in the world (he probably will be), makes multiple mistakes a game (but yes he usually recovers from them) and is massively hyped up on this forum (rightly) 
Give the boy some time he has looked great in the past and will be great in the future 

has to be the worst position to play goalie when it comes to mistakes, every one is so much more highlighted as they lead to giving away goals, to me courtois does not look confident at the moment and that has to be down to having a leaky defence in front of him, cech might be a bit better in this situation at the moment but as people have already said courtois is only 23, have to give him far more time and cech has blundered a bit with the goons this season

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Seems like he's not a vocal keeper, when Remy cleared the originally cross if the keeper called for it he would have easily claimed it.

 

Absolutely, he just stopped and waiting for the ball to go over the dead ball line instead of going for it. That sort of high looping ball is easy for GK, difficult for defenders to clear with attackers charing towards it. 



De Gea was way worse than Courtois when he first came to england at a similar age. His main weaknesses were also crosses and organisation of his defence. 23 year old goalkeepers cant possibly have the experience required to be truly world class. Let's judge Tibo after 3/4 years in the prem, not 1 and a half. Cech was a freak in that he came in and was instantly world class. Tibo is a damn good goalkeeper, and his struggles just show how lucky we were to have such an incredible keeper like Cech playing for this club



True, but if we had Cech now i don't think we would concede as many goals. Cech is fantastic at keeping the defense organised and is always composed, i don't see this with Courtois. Cech also doesn't get beat from long range strikes as often as Courtois and when he makes a save he tends to push the ball away from the danger area.

Personally, i don't think Courtois is anywhere near the level people hyped him up to be. Cech is still well ahead in my opinion.

Let's just call a spade a spade. Courtois is overrated. I know our defense isn't the best in the league but 5 goals in a week. Wow!

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