5 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

The difference is we don't have other options. 

Pretty sure back then we had Torres, Ba and went and got Eto'o.

Now we have Giroud, Higuain (possibly), Morata and Batshuayi. Not much difference.

24 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

We never gave Lukaku a chance after successful Premier League loans, i doubt Tammy will be any different. 

Lukaku was blocked out by Drogba, then Costa turned up and Lukaku didnt want to fight for a place.

Tammy is being blocked by dross.

1 minute ago, coco said:

Lukaku was blocked out by Drogba, then Costa turned up and Lukaku didnt want to fight for a place.

Tammy is being blocked by dross.

As per previous post. 

Wasn't it torres, Ba and Eto'o blocking him first?

25 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Pretty sure back then we had Torres, Ba and went and got Eto'o.

Now we have Giroud, Higuain (possibly), Morata and Batshuayi. Not much difference.

Higuain it seems pretty clear isn't staying. Morata isn't coming back. Batshuyai isn't better than Abraham and will more likely be sold. 

We aren't going to go and buy an Eto'o because we can't buy an Eto. That was my point. 

14 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Higuain it seems pretty clear isn't staying. Morata isn't coming back. Batshuyai isn't better than Abraham and will more likely be sold. 

We aren't going to go and buy an Eto'o because we can't buy an Eto. That was my point. 

Higuain can be retained with the ban so really wouldn't surprise me. 

Hope to god he doesn't come back but once again would it surprise you if the club recalled him?

Batshuayi is better than Tammy, doing it at Villa ain't the same as doing it at Dortmund. 

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

As per previous post. 

Wasn't it torres, Ba and Eto'o blocking him first?

Fairly sure it was Torres and Ba and Jose went and bought in Eto’o to surround himself with “his” players. 

Lukaku got a couple of chances early on, missed the deciding penalty against Bayern Munich in the Super Cup and then decided he wanted to leave on loan.

Following year he said he wanted to make the move permanent and we signed Costa as first choice with Drogba coming back as another of Jose’s champions.

At least, that’s how I remember it.

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

As per previous post. 

Wasn't it torres, Ba and Eto'o blocking him first?

Yes a number of strikers blocked him out, but as i remember Jose said Lukaku wanted to play every game so decided to take the loan at WBA, then Everton, and then when Costa turned up he signed for Everton.

Lukaku did play for us, and although it wasnt long enough, he did get a chance. 

47 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Higuain can be retained with the ban so really wouldn't surprise me. 

Hope to god he doesn't come back but once again would it surprise you if the club recalled him?

Batshuayi is better than Tammy, doing it at Villa ain't the same as doing it at Dortmund. 

Batshuayi is our current best striker.

1 hour ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Fairly sure it was Torres and Ba and Jose went and bought in Eto’o to surround himself with “his” players. 

Lukaku got a couple of chances early on, missed the deciding penalty against Bayern Munich in the Super Cup and then decided he wanted to leave on loan.

Following year he said he wanted to make the move permanent and we signed Costa as first choice with Drogba coming back as another of Jose’s champions.

At least, that’s how I remember it.

Played about 20 minutes of that Munich game after playing most of pre-season, missed the penalty and didn't really get another proper look in after that.

With us signing Costa he was never going to sit on the bench after another good loan.

In all fairness, we never really gave him a proper chance and he was a lot further developed than Tammy.

2 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Higuain can be retained with the ban so really wouldn't surprise me. 

Hope to god he doesn't come back but once again would it surprise you if the club recalled him?

Batshuayi is better than Tammy, doing it at Villa ain't the same as doing it at Dortmund. 

I think that if as is being rumored, Sarri decides to leave to go to Juventus, then Higuaín's loan will probably be terminated. I also think that the first bid coming in from Juve will be for Jorginho.

Just now, WhiteWall said:

I think that if as is being rumored, Sarri decides to leave to go to Juventus, then Higuaín's loan will probably be terminated. I also think that the first bid coming in from Juve will be for Jorginho.

Juve have Pjanic, doubt they'd let Sarri sign Jorginho too. 

3 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

We never gave Lukaku a chance after successful Premier League loans, i doubt Tammy will be any different. 

Lukaku was offered a role in the squad but got to big for his boots and demanded an undisputed number 1 role ahead of a vastly superior striker.

Tammy doesn't strike me as someone that up himself.

2 minutes ago, Argo said:

Lukaku was offered a role in the squad but got to big for his boots and demanded an undisputed number 1 role ahead of a vastly superior striker.

Tammy doesn't strike me as someone that up himself.

vastly superior striker? We had Torres and Ba then went and signed an over the hill Eto'o to be ahead of him? Lukaku should have been given a proper chance that year. 

When i say a proper chance i mean actually starting games too, he wouldn't make the bench behind those three. 

2 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

vastly superior striker? We had Torres and Ba then went and signed an over the hill Eto'o to be ahead of him? Lukaku should have been given a proper chance that year. 

When i say a proper chance i mean actually starting games too, he wouldn't make the bench behind those three. 

I was thinking more the time Costa was being signed, he made it very clear he would only remain with us if he was given an undisputed starting position and that wasn't ever going to happen.

And I personally prefered Eto'o, infact i would prefer (that version of) Eto'o to current Lukaku let alone the raw version of back then. Eto'o wasn't his prime version with us but as soon as he was upto speed he had a very respectable record and delivered in more big games for us in 6 months than Rom's done his entire career.

Not to mention all our attacking midfielders were very young at that time, playing a 20 year old striker Infront of them would have led to us basically being an U21 team in that area of the pitch, not even Wenger lowered the average of his side's that drastically.

9 minutes ago, Argo said:

I was thinking more the time Costa was being signed, he made it very clear he would only remain with us if he was given an undisputed starting position and that wasn't ever going to happen.

And I personally prefered Eto'o, infact i would prefer (that version of) Eto'o to current Lukaku let alone the raw version of back then. Eto'o wasn't his prime version with us but as soon as he was upto speed he had a very respectable record and delivered in more big games for us in 6 months than Rom's done his entire career.

Not to mention all our attacking midfielders were very young at that time, playing a 20 year old striker Infront of them would have led to us basically being an U21 team in that area of the pitch, not even Wenger lowered the average of his side's that drastically.

He should have had a season under his belt with us to gauge whether he was good enough before signing Costa though.

Our best attackers next season are going to be a youth club when CHO is back though (CHO, Pulisic, RLC). 

3 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Our best attackers next season are going to be a youth club when CHO is back though (CHO, Pulisic, RLC). 

Those three wont be on the pitch together for some time.

Is there nobody from this years youth team who might be worth a try?  I mean, they could hardly do much worse than what we had this season. If not, then as clumsy and 3rd rate as he is, Bats will score us more goals than our other options.

8 minutes ago, Dixons said:

Is there nobody from this years youth team who might be worth a try?  I mean, they could hardly do much worse than what we had this season. If not, then as clumsy and 3rd rate as he is, Bats will score us more goals than our other options.

Problem I have with Bats is he's so unbelievably clumsy in general play that despite a decent goal record I still view him as my least favourite of our options.

As poor as Higuain is he atleast does the tactical bacics which stretches defenses and creates space for the others, Bats by comparison barely moves and is sh*t at linking up which in turn means the wingers have little space to make things happen.

The Norwich cup tie last season summed up Michy in a nutshell, well taken goal but was one of the main reason's (if not the reason) we created the bare root of f**k all for the other 209 minutes of the tie.

2 hours ago, coco said:

Those three wont be on the pitch together for some time.

Hudson-Odoi hoping to be back training in August and RLC by Christmas. No reason come the new year they wouldn't be starting together. Even if RLC is out longer, CHO and Pulisic could realistically be starting together by October/November. Do we really want Tammy in the middle of them?

Go with Giroud and Tammy/Bats as back up. Giroud lets our attacking players play off him well and Pedro, CHO, Willian love cutting inside off a main striker. 

2 minutes ago, Fruity66 said:

Go with Giroud and Tammy/Bats as back up. Giroud lets our attacking players play off him well and Pedro, CHO, Willian love cutting inside off a main striker. 

Giroud  who can’t physically last an hour and with 2 league goals as our starter? Unless we are going back to hoofing it upfield he is pointless even as backup for Me. 

Lets face it. We have a rum lot of strikers to pick from and it's a case of who's the least worse. 

8 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Hudson-Odoi hoping to be back training in August and RLC by Christmas. No reason come the new year they wouldn't be starting together. Even if RLC is out longer, CHO and Pulisic could realistically be starting together by October/November. Do we really want Tammy in the middle of them?

Yes, we do. Both love to put the ball in the box through take ons or crossing. Tammy's best quality is his nose for goal. I'd bet my house Tammy would score more than either Giroud or Higuain have this season. 

8 hours ago, TheChelseaBlues said:

Yes, we do. Both love to put the ball in the box through take ons or crossing. Tammy's best quality is his nose for goal. I'd bet my house Tammy would score more than either Giroud or Higuain have this season. 

Our front line would have an average age of 20 between them. Is that realistic? Surely some experience is needed.

2 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Our front line would have an average age of 20 between them. Is that realistic? Surely some experience is needed.

I'd normally agree but the experience we have isn't that much better, if at all.  If you have two players who are similar levels but ten years apart you're better off playing the younger guy to get him that experience you talked about so that when he hits 23/24 he's ready to launch into his prime years.  I'm not saying playing Tammy as a first choice striker is ideal, but if we can't sign any top class strikers then I feel we're much better off playing him over has been strikers.