Judging by that pic, he really enjoyed that goal! 

Edited July 24, 20196 yr by Old Shaggy

11 hours ago, Spiller86 said:

That's a fair point ducavis. My view is that it a striker's contribution these days has to extend beyond finishing. Abraham and Michy are both pretty ordinary on the ball and don't link up as well with other players. From what I've observed they also aren't great without the ball at leading the press which is key for a striker these days. 

Giroud isn't perfect and his finishing isn't always great but he does the other things well. In a season where I don't think we're going to create mountains of chances for a striker, doing the other stuff is important. 

Tammy may grow into that and take over at some stage but he's not there yet for me.

Tammy really impressed me against Barca. He led the press brilliantly, better than I've ever seen from Giroud. Being a lot faster and younger surely helps with this. I was also really impressed with his first touch and how he held up the ball. He was very strong and the ball just stuck to him. I like Giroud and think he's underrated, but I'd rather give Tammy a chance because he could end up being a star.

Big statement to give Tammy the number 9 shirt. 

Hopefully he's going to get plenty of minutes this season. He's got a massive opportunity to establish himself as part of the first team squad for the foreseeable future. 

29 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Big statement to give Tammy the number 9 shirt. 

Hopefully he's going to get plenty of minutes this season. He's got a massive opportunity to establish himself as part of the first team squad for the foreseeable future. 

Would be great to see how he does.... always gives us the option of lumping on Giroud for the last 10/15 mins if needed 

It sounds like he's got the right mentality.

I'm not sure he's got the required talent, though.

He needs maybe a bit more weight in order to be dominant.

Lukaku got the same advice last summer, he still hasn't stopped eating.

People gloss over the fact that apart from a couple of seasons, Drogba was hardly prolific ... in 7 out of his 9 seasons with us his return from all competitions was 16 goals or less ... I can't see any reason why Tammy couldn't match or better that ...

14 hours ago, Old Shaggy said:

Judging by that pic, he really enjoyed that goal! 

Are you looking at that young mans willy? 

12 hours ago, DannyVblue said:

Tammy really impressed me against Barca. He led the press brilliantly, better than I've ever seen from Giroud. Being a lot faster and younger surely helps with this. I was also really impressed with his first touch and how he held up the ball. He was very strong and the ball just stuck to him. I like Giroud and think he's underrated, but I'd rather give Tammy a chance because he could end up being a star.

Haha looks like we've got the exact oppoaite view! We shall see. It certainly looks like he is staying having been given 9 so he will get a chance.

9 hours ago, loz said:

23 hours ago, Gol15 said:

He needs maybe a bit more weight in order to be dominant.

Lukaku got the same advice last summer, he still hasn't stopped eating.

In all seriousness Tammy is tall but looks too light weight for his size. Lukaku was always big, I don't want Tammy to lose his speed but I think he needs some extra strenght somewhere somehow.

2 hours ago, Gol15 said:

In all seriousness Tammy is tall but looks too light weight for his size. Lukaku was always big, I don't want Tammy to lose his speed but I think he needs some extra strenght somewhere somehow.

He is young he will fill out, I was about 70 kg at 18 and about 90kg mid 20’s 

I used to get a health check for work every two years. My dr said ideally you should aim to be the same weight at 40 or 50 or 60 as when you were 18. Few of us achieve that. Aubameyang isn’t big but he’s effective. It’s Tammy’s head that needs to improve. Making good decisions, not blowing easy chances, working out when pressing in defence is a good use of energy etc. 

3 hours ago, ozboy said:

I used to get a health check for work every two years. My dr said ideally you should aim to be the same weight at 40 or 50 or 60 as when you were 18. Few of us achieve that. Aubameyang isn’t big but he’s effective. It’s Tammy’s head that needs to improve. Making good decisions, not blowing easy chances, working out when pressing in defence is a good use of energy etc. 

Thats crap, at 18yo you are still growing your bones.

What’s not crap at least according to that font of authority the internet is that Abraham is already 2 kg more than Aubamayang at 82 kg v 80 kg . That dr did a lot of corporate health checkups but maybe he gilded the lily. 

2 minutes ago, ozboy said:

What’s not crap at least according to that font of authority the internet is that Abraham is already 2 kg more than Aubamayang at 82 kg v 80 kg . That dr did a lot of corporate health checkups but maybe he gilded the lily. 

I think weight is not a good measurement if you wanted to know a players strength. I probably put on a stone of weight when i left school at 16yo for the first 3 months, then i got work doing manual labour for 12 months until 17yo. I become much much more stronger in that 12 months of hard labour and high calorie intake, but i still weighed only a bit more weight than a year before,

5 hours ago, ozboy said:

I used to get a health check for work every two years. My dr said ideally you should aim to be the same weight at 40 or 50 or 60 as when you were 18.

If I weighed now what I did when I was 18, people would think I had cancer...

5 hours ago, ozboy said:

I used to get a health check for work every two years. My dr said ideally you should aim to be the same weight at 40 or 50 or 60 as when you were 18. Few of us achieve that. Aubameyang isn’t big but he’s effective. It’s Tammy’s head that needs to improve. Making good decisions, not blowing easy chances, working out when pressing in defence is a good use of energy etc. 

This is only for men, right ?

Weight is meaningless if you don't know how to use it. Zola was relatively small but was very difficult to knock of the ball, as was Dennis wise. 

21 minutes ago, dkw said:

Weight is meaningless if you don't know how to use it. Zola was relatively small but was very difficult to knock of the ball, as was Dennis wise. 

To be fair, Wise probably just growled at opponents, making them think twice about coming anywhere near him.

1 hour ago, Valerie said:

To be fair, Wise probably just growled at opponents, making them think twice about coming anywhere near him.

He used to pinch them on the inner thigh or under the arm to wind them up ? 

2 hours ago, Bonzodog29 said:

He used to pinch them on the inner thigh or under the arm to wind them up ? 

Like when he gave Nicky Butt a horse pinch on his inner thigh during the 5-0 win in 2000 that got Butt sent off.

32 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Like when he gave Nicky Butt a horse pinch on his inner thigh during the 5-0 win in 2000 that got Butt sent off.

Fantastic match. One of my favourites growing up. Jody morris with the trumpet celebration and even sutton got on the scoresheet! 

On 24/07/2019 at 12:31, Sexyfootball said:

People gloss over the fact that apart from a couple of seasons, Drogba was hardly prolific ... in 7 out of his 9 seasons with us his return from all competitions was 16 goals or less ... I can't see any reason why Tammy couldn't match or better that ...

I'd be happy if he never surpasses 16 a season as long as he scores winners like Drogba did. I swear he scored in every final and big derbies. 

Goes without saying Arsenal defenders are still having nightmares. Was it 15 in 16? I'd take that return from Tammy in his career. 

Edited July 25, 20196 yr by TheChelseaBlues

On 24/07/2019 at 18:31, Sexyfootball said:

People gloss over the fact that apart from a couple of seasons, Drogba was hardly prolific ... in 7 out of his 9 seasons with us his return from all competitions was 16 goals or less ... I can't see any reason why Tammy couldn't match or better that ...

A bit surprised by the Drogba stats.  But thinking back, Drogba was a fantastic big game player and not really one for a wet Wednesday night at Wigan. Then you have a striker like Lukaku,  who scores in run of the miil games but goes missing against the big teams. 

17 hours ago, ozboy said:

I used to get a health check for work every two years. My dr said ideally you should aim to be the same weight at 40 or 50 or 60 as when you were 18. Few of us achieve that. Aubameyang isn’t big but he’s effective. It’s Tammy’s head that needs to improve. Making good decisions, not blowing easy chances, working out when pressing in defence is a good use of energy etc. 

I don't know but it can be very individual as well, that striker from Wolves Raul Jimenez is maybe even taller than Tammy and maybe has less weight but he is a very strong player and for his size pretty agile and fast, while someone like Ibrahimovic is probably heavier and a bit taller than everyone else but didn't care much about his pace.

I'm just worried that Tammy doesn't get bullied out from duels once the league games start, I guess weight and size doesn't matter that much because I just remembered Morata that by all means should be capable of standing upright...