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Antonio Conte - Now Officially Manager

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They were saying on talksport that there is a rift between manager and players, as well as manager and board. 

Not that it's necessarily true, just reporting what I heard on the radio.

That SMS should have never happened. That was a suicide SMS. It started a downward spiral, just like Eva incident. f**k me, I'm devastated. 

When you will get it ? Conte already said 100 times, that Costa was knowing his future back in the January, when he do hes antics with China. He knows there he will finish the season and then he is done.

And the reason Costa was playing from January till the end of the season was because Conte feared that if he bench him, he will poisoned the atmosphere.

 

32 minutes ago, brakeit said:

When you will get it ? Conte already said 100 times, that Costa was knowing his future back in the January, when he do hes antics with China. He knows there he will finish the season and then he is done.

And the reason Costa was playing from January till the end of the season was because Conte feared that if he bench him, he will poisoned the atmosphere.

 

Correct.  Costa's future was written on the wall in january.  We can honestly forget the text message fiasco, it is a non-story that Costa is using to get a quick and speedy move to his desired location: Atletico Madrid.  That's all.

Moving on to talking about the rift between Conte and the board...sure I bet that does exist.  Again and again conte has expressed his desires to bring in more players, and over again the board decides to sell instead of buy.  Our squad is barren and one injury away from being in big trouble.  I can only comment on the team as it is TODAY.  If things change in the next three weeks than maybe I can change my tune, but it doesn't seem to be going in that direction, and if the past is any precursor to the future, I smell some trouble brewing.  

He doesn't look happy at all. If the board f**k this up and he ends up walking, or getting the sack after they didn't back him, i'm going to be so pissed off.

They've got about 2-3 weeks now to bring in about 3 top quality players, having had all summer to balance the squad. They'd better get it f**king done.

1 hour ago, Brutos said:

So who is available to take over from Conte when he leaves? I really don't see any standout managers?

i always liked carlo, and he said he would always be open to returning to the club. the problem is, we can't keep going through managers every 2 seasons. i do, however, believe that managers have a shelf life at a club. 

i wouldn't believe what the press or radio people say. as soon as we lose a game or things aren't going rosy there's always talk of the manager and board not seeing eye to eye here. remember at the start of last season? we lose a small handful of games and the press jump on the "conte will get the sack" narrative. they got to cling to something. the media are as fickle as the fans. 

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This is just the Chelsea way.. The following should never have been sacked:

Ruud, Vialli, Jose, (part one) Robbie D.

im not saying that I rated them all as managers but they hadn't done anything to warrent sacking.

 

even with Joses second season, look at the quality of signings we brought in on the window... f**king hector and do aa dodgy... this is not really what you would call backing the manager. Honestly I think we have done pretty good buisness this year and the squad would be more or less baked, if we had kept chalouba, Ake and Matic but to sell matic with out a replacement sat infront of you is criminal.

 

ive been calm but slow panic is starting to creep in, Changing managers is becoming more stressful then doctor who regeneration process.

 

oh I forgot Carlo 

To be fair it is the russian way. Basically the same thing. They sack their managers, coaches, leaders for no reason. It is part of the club this 'habit' and we will see it as long as Roman is in charge.

I hope we everything to keep Conte.

Am normally very positive but was the days tick by its like Jose situation all over again he complains about signing board ignores him gone by December. I truly want to believe this will be different but our boards record speaks for itself

3 hours ago, barak81 said:

even with Joses second season, look at the quality of signings we brought in on the window... f**king hector and do aa dodgy... this is not really what you would call backing the manager.

We could have sold Hazard, Courtois, Cech, Azpi and signed no one apart from Turnbull back and it still wouldn't justify being one point of relegation coming up to Christmas.

3 hours ago, evissy said:

To be fair it is the russian way. Basically the same thing. They sack their managers, coaches, leaders for no reason. It is part of the club this 'habit' and we will see it as long as Roman is in charge.

I hope we everything to keep Conte.

Which coach was fired for "no reason" out of interest?

Which coach was fired for "no reason" out of interest?
Okay no reason is a bad choice of words but in comparison we tend to fire coaches pretty easy. Not a huge critique of it as we try to be top team but there is a trend.
2 minutes ago, evissy said:
8 minutes ago, Argo said:
Which coach was fired for "no reason" out of interest?

Okay no reason is a bad choice of words but in comparison we tend to fire coaches pretty easy. Not a huge critique of it as we try to be top team but there is a trend.

Have they? In my opinion the only one that could be deemed harsh was Ranieri but we couldn't turn down Jose, Jose mark one was done by mutual consent and if anything the rest were done later than they should have been.

Roman's "itchy trigger finger" has come down to rectifying bad/misjudged appointments, would you rather he just let them carry on dragging the team down for the sake of stability?

Actually i think in football in general manager's get far too much sympathy, not just at Chelsea.

15 minutes ago, Argo said:

Which coach was fired for "no reason" out of interest?

Well, Carlo was let go for coming second (in his second season here) a season after he broke records to a historic double....and had his squad weakened in the summer in between.....so I'd say that he was fired for no good reason. 

Which would basically be like saying that Conte deserves the sack if he doesn't win the league again this year.....

Have they? In my opinion the only one that could be deemed harsh was Ranieri but we couldn't turn down Jose, Jose mark one was done by mutual consent and if anything the rest were done later than they should have been.
Roman's "itchy trigger finger" has come down to rectifying bad/misjudged appointments, would you rather he just let them carry on dragging the team down for the sake of stability?
Actually i think in football in general manager's get far too much sympathy, not just at Chelsea.
As I said I have no qualms about firing managers. We just never give them time to go over 'bad moments' or 'slumps'. Players in this club probably feel the manager is in trouble and just wait for the sack to start over again instead of trying to help. Not just Chelsea probably these days..
5 minutes ago, Barry Bridges said:

Well, Carlo was let go for coming second (in his second season here) a season after he broke records to a historic double....and had his squad weakened in the summer in between.....so I'd say that he was fired for no good reason. 

Which would basically be like saying that Conte deserves the sack if he doesn't win the league again this year.....

His tactics and management in the second season were absolutely dreadful, he had no idea to revert the winter crisis we found ourselves in and just sat there with his hands in his pocket and waited for the players to pull themselves out of the rut, which luckily enough they eventually did. He also didn't change one game from the bench that season, even AVB had that infamous Kalou/Malouda sub vs WBA. Even in the double season there was worrying signs, but the way we ended papered over the cracks.

Also he has no track record for a rebuild which we needed at the time.

6 minutes ago, evissy said:

As I said I have no qualms about firing managers. We just never give them time to go over 'bad moments' or 'slumps'. Players in this club probably feel the manager is in trouble and just wait for the sack to start over again instead of trying to help. Not just Chelsea probably these days..

Mourinho got three months to get us out of the rut we were in, no other club on our level would have stuck by a manager performing the way we did that season, even Fergie would have been sweating for his job.

1 hour ago, Barry Bridges said:

Well, Carlo was let go for coming second (in his second season here) a season after he broke records to a historic double....and had his squad weakened in the summer in between.....so I'd say that he was fired for no good reason. 

Which would basically be like saying that Conte deserves the sack if he doesn't win the league again this year.....

Wouldn't surprise me if that happens.  They'll run out of good managers to hire eventually.

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