Carragher is right on Sky, both teams should hang their heads in shame. Liverpool for being so terrible and Leicester for putting on a performance that they should have put in when Ranieri was in charge. I think i heard that Vardy sprinted more times tonight than he had in any other game this season. I bet tonight we would find that most of Leicesters players put in more effort tonight than they have at any other point this season. Footballers these days are pathetic. There is no reason why Leicester couldn't have put in that performance in most games this season.

Liverpool need Sakho back, they need a good CB and I think he is one.

Had an excellent debut for Crystal Palace.

it's going to be really difficult for Liverpool to finish top 4 and as we all know successive years out of the CL has serious implications for clubs - isn't it lovely?

7 minutes ago, IliyaKrostin said:

Manager win ratios:

Moyes at Man Utd: 52.9%

Klopp at Liverpool: 48.2%

 

not sure if it's true.

Looks like the EU referendum result.

Klopp introduces revolutionary training regime while on 2 week break in Malaga, but on first outing, the wheels fall off

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Think it was La Manga they went for hols. It's a bit like the team, was the big cheese in the 70's and 80's but is somewhat run down now and living on its former glory.

Ha ha, our result against Liverpool is now looking a bad one...from title contenders to finishing out of the top four? How quickly the media love in for that club and all things Klopp's have disappeared...lovely

Told you he was overrated, what kind of manager loses five consecutive cup finals? Good times!

1 hour ago, IliyaKrostin said:

Liverpool need Sakho back, they need a good CB and I think he is one.

Had an excellent debut for Crystal Palace.

won't happen - Klopp has some beef w/ Sakho

Enjoying watching them burn. Remember them being cocky around December last year thinking the league was wrapped up. 

Edited February 28, 20179 yr by Drogbaholic

17 minutes ago, Drogbaholic said:

Enjoying watching them burn. Remember them being cocky around December last year thinking the league was wrapped up. 

THIS. So frustrating and infuriating to read and watch over and over.

There was more sh*t about pool than our 13 match winning streak in the media.

Edited February 28, 20179 yr by didierforever

11 minutes ago, didierforever said:

THIS. So frustrating and infuriating to read and watch over and over.

There was more sh*t about pool than our 13 match winning streak in the media.

Really?  I thought we had quite a lot of coverage.  But then I do tend to only read Chelsea related stories.  Unless it's to laugh at our competitors!  

Here's some interesting post's on the 606 website from a Leicester fan about why Ranieri's position became untenable and had to go. If this is even half accurate then he f**ked up almost as badly as Jose did for us last season.

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As someone who was really angry when he was sacked and vehemently blamed the players, I'm not pisssed off at all anymore. Even before the game I'd decided it was the correct decision. After learning about what's been going on behind the scenes there was no choice and it was absolutely 100% the correct decision. He dismantled our sports science team, which was the best in the country with the most advanced technology and got rid of the sports psychologist who helped the players keep calm and focus during the Great Escape and also keep our bottle to win the league. Two really very important areas which were integral to our success over the last few years and he gets rid of them. That was enough for me before I heard about everything else. Why do that? 

Ranieri got the tactics badly wrong this season, as Pearson did until our final nine games until he changed the tactics and we started to attack teams. Tactics can make a huge difference as it showed during the Great Escape. How we played last season was how we kept ourselves in the league. 

This season we have struggled to play like that because of losing Kante, the year before we had Cambiasso. We now have Ndidi so it means we can go back to how we used to play but we've had him for two months yet we've been messing around with stupid formations with players out of position and not knowing what they're doing, very questionable line ups, substitutions and tactics. 

He's tried to evolve our style but we're not good enough to play any other way. He's stopped us from pressing and we go out to contain teams rather than win and it's just been awful. We're dangerous when we play with high energy and intensity, defend from the front, put teams under pressure, force mistakes and get the ball forward earlier to Vardy. This style suits us and at the back end of last season teams had sussed us out but it didn't make any difference, we kept on winning regardless. Ok I don't expect us to win as many as we did last season but we'd still do alright playing our style. 

Opposition fans are more pisssed off than we are because we understand our club and well you don't.

 

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Did you see a lack of effort when you (Man.United) came to the KP? I didn't even though you smashed us again. 

We were in it until you scored and were even the beter team for what the first 20 mins maybe until you switched things around in midfield. Wr fell apart for 15 mins and it was all over but there was nothing wrong with the level of commitment, we tried but we just made really poor mistakes and the tactics were all wrong.

 

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No tactics mate simple as that. The players have been instructed not to press, you can see it in the players, some press some don't, some go to press and then change their mind and it's because they don't know what to do. It's like they feel like they should press but don't because they're trying to play to instruction. We didnt attack either, we just tried to contain teams and not concede but by not pressing we left too many gaps, our defence had been playing higher up the pitch, full backs pushing on getting caught out of position which all meant we've been badly exposed. 

Last night we were on the front foot from the start, putting them under pressure, forcing mistakes, defending from the front. The defence sat deeper and stayed in line and when the full backs went forward players dropped in to again make sure we kept our shape. 

None of this has anything to do with more effort or commitment, though some performances have definitely lacked both, it's not been the case all season. Even in Seville we played with commitment and effort but we were still crap because we weren't doing what we're good at.

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He changed everything and no the players didn't take to his new ideas because they're not good enough. We don't have a team of footballers, we know that but Ranieri seemed to lose sight of that and expected us to keep the ball and play like Champions. The problem is we became Champions doing what we're good at so if he wanted us to play like Champions then he should have let them get on with it.
 

 

15 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

Carragher is right on Sky, both teams should hang their heads in shame. Liverpool for being so terrible and Leicester for putting on a performance that they should have put in when Ranieri was in charge. I think i heard that Vardy sprinted more times tonight than he had in any other game this season. I bet tonight we would find that most of Leicesters players put in more effort tonight than they have at any other point this season. Footballers these days are pathetic. There is no reason why Leicester couldn't have put in that performance in most games this season.

 

Maybe you should focus more on why players didn't to do that for the manager before slamming them...

 

Read Gary neville said leicester should build a statue for ranieri (to maybe worship him for their title triumph?) but after the liverpool game, he said the players won the game PURELY by determination to make it happen, no tactic involved!!  If that's the case then how instrumental exactly was ranieri last season to the players?  a cheerleader on the touchline? no, can't be, he's a very calm person.. I guess the influence of the manager is not as huge as what the common myth would like us to believe..

 

 

14 minutes ago, bola said:

 

Maybe you should focus more on why players didn't to do that for the manager before slamming them...

 

Because player power is too high in today's game.

There is no excuse. He's the boss, you do as you are told as a player or you don't get paid. Well, that is how it should be anyway.

If i was to suddenly start doing sh*t in my job just because i didn't agree with my bosses methods, then i would be sacked, and i rightly so too. The same should apply to footballers. If they can't be bothered to do their job properly then maybe they should have their wages cut, i bet that would soon get them working hard for the team again.

The players don't deserve to have excuses made for them. If they can put in a performance like that only a few days after their manager has been sacked, then there is no reason why they couldn't have done it at other times this season. Yesterday, Leicester played the same way they always play, the only difference was that they put more effort into it.

7 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Because player power is too high in today's game.

There is no excuse. He's the boss, you do as you are told as a player or you don't get paid. Well, that is how it should be anyway.

If i was to suddenly start doing sh*t in my job just because i didn't agree with my bosses methods, then i would be sacked, and i rightly so too. The same should apply to footballers. If they can't be bothered to do their job properly then maybe they should have their wages cut, i bet that would soon get them working hard for the team again.

The players don't deserve to have excuses made for them. If they can put in a performance like that only a few days after their manager has been sacked, then there is no reason why they couldn't have done it at other times this season. Yesterday, Leicester played the same way they always play, the only difference was that they put more effort into it.

Similar to the players with Jose really.

From winning it at a canter to fighting at the bottom of the league in a few months. Players are a fickle bunch.

Leicester fans like Chelsea ones will forgive the players if they start performing from now on, just the way it goes rightly or wrongly.

Edited February 28, 20179 yr by Chelsbear

20 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Because player power is too high in today's game.

There is no excuse. He's the boss, you do as you are told as a player or you don't get paid. Well, that is how it should be anyway.

If i was to suddenly start doing sh*t in my job just because i didn't agree with my bosses methods, then i would be sacked, and i rightly so too. The same should apply to footballers. If they can't be bothered to do their job properly then maybe they should have their wages cut, i bet that would soon get them working hard for the team again.

The players don't deserve to have excuses made for them. If they can put in a performance like that only a few days after their manager has been sacked, then there is no reason why they couldn't have done it at other times this season. Yesterday, Leicester played the same way they always play, the only difference was that they put more effort into it.

 

and the manager's power is not?  Manager is not the boss though, the owner, who pays the wage, is.. And it's not just a case of 1 or 2 players but the whole group.. EVen if you wanna relate to real life office company relationship, there are tons of examples where a dept head was sacked because the majority in that department doesn't think he's good enough...

How good is it seeing Klopps depressed mug now compared to that smug face when he said we would be raging that we were only 6 points ahead of them.

4 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

How good is it seeing Klopps depressed mug now compared to that smug face when he said we would be raging that we were only 6 points ahead of them.

Did you see his interview last night, I had no idea what he was going on abut, he made no sense at all, just seemed to think "working harder" would fix it, which he kept repeating.

6 minutes ago, dkw said:

Did you see his interview last night, I had no idea what he was going on abut, he made no sense at all, just seemed to think "working harder" would fix it, which he kept repeating.

He genuinely looked way out his depth post match. As you say he was just saying random things that made little to no sense in the context the questions was asked then he tried to say it’s hard to get the language across after a defeat.

 

It’s all crumbling apart now and his touchline theatrics and cringe speeches look hilariously bad now. He in effect has just continued where Brenda left off, another year out the top 4 will be disastrous for them.

the poisoned chalice strikes yet again 

Players downing tools is a romantic made myth created to defend managers who are doing a sh*t job. 

This has to be posted every time it goes wrong for Liverpool 

3 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

Because player power is too high in today's game.

There is no excuse. He's the boss, you do as you are told as a player or you don't get paid. Well, that is how it should be anyway.

If i was to suddenly start doing sh*t in my job just because i didn't agree with my bosses methods, then i would be sacked, and i rightly so too. The same should apply to footballers. If they can't be bothered to do their job properly then maybe they should have their wages cut, i bet that would soon get them working hard for the team again.

The players don't deserve to have excuses made for them. If they can put in a performance like that only a few days after their manager has been sacked, then there is no reason why they couldn't have done it at other times this season. Yesterday, Leicester played the same way they always play, the only difference was that they put more effort into it.

The difference is you're far more replaceable than the average footballer at a top club, let alone a squad of players. Far cheaper to sack the manager than replace a squad.