lmao i read somewhere on twitter that we were going to wait until after the international fixtures to submit a formal bid for him. hilarious if true. this is why we should do our business early

26 minutes ago, magichat said:

lmao i read somewhere on twitter that we were going to wait until after the international fixtures to submit a formal bid for him. hilarious if true. this is why we should do our business early

Clubs won't wait that long to make initial contact, the brutal truth is likely that he had his heart set on Bayern and we had no chance. Under those circumstances you could have the best negotiating team or the worse, end results the same.

Done and dusted, sign for Bayern

Not sure why we pass up on good players in positions we need that are going for decent money (35 million) which amazingly is a bundesliga record! Yet we want to spank 80 mil on Lukaku when we could have bought Aubameyang or kept Costa, we missed out on Douglas Costa to Bayern too when we needed a RW and landed caudw**ko who turned out to be made of pipe cleaners. How the f can they establish a team like that with 35 mil bring their most expensive player? 

Edited June 15, 20179 yr by DonAntonio

I haven't watched him play a full game even so can't comment on hia strengths or weaknesses. However, is he really better than what we have in our youth system already? It bothers me we wanna pay out for a young lad with potential when we already have those in our own youth system, which also happenes to be the best in the country. There must be serious lack of faith in our youth if we feel the need to buy a cm who 6 months ago was on very few people's tongues. The last youngster bayern bought was also supposedly a top talent and yet failed miserably there. 

Edited June 15, 20179 yr by enigma

34 minutes ago, enigma said:

I haven't watched him play a full game even so can't comment on hia strengths or weaknesses. However, is he really better than what we have in our youth system already? It bothers me we wanna pay out for a young lad with potential when we already have those in our own youth system, which also happenes to be the best in the country. There must be serious lack of faith in our youth if we feel the need to buy a cm who 6 months ago was on very few people's tongues. The last youngster bayern bought was also supposedly a top talent and yet failed miserably there. 

There's a huge gap in quality between the youth level and first team, and it's everywhere, not just at CFC. I realize the desire to see more homegrown players in the squad, but I haven't seen anything from Chalobah, RLC or Aina to suggest that they're ready to displase any of the senior players in a starting lineup. A successful loan where they can play regularly is the only way for them to improve and advance their careers, whether at Chelsea or someplace else.

Edited June 15, 20179 yr by abramovich

1 hour ago, enigma said:

I haven't watched him play a full game even so can't comment on hia strengths or weaknesses. However, is he really better than what we have in our youth system already? It bothers me we wanna pay out for a young lad with potential when we already have those in our own youth system, which also happenes to be the best in the country. There must be serious lack of faith in our youth if we feel the need to buy a cm who 6 months ago was on very few people's tongues. The last youngster bayern bought was also supposedly a top talent and yet failed miserably there. 

Our youth is overrated. Outside of Tammy and Christensen I highly doubt any of them will ever become a first team regular. Decent squad fillers but that's about it.

6 hours ago, DonAntonio said:

Not sure why we pass up on good players in positions we need that are going for decent money (35 million) which amazingly is a bundesliga record! Yet we want to spank 80 mil on Lukaku when we could have bought Aubameyang or kept Costa, we missed out on Douglas Costa to Bayern too when we needed a RW and landed caudw**ko who turned out to be made of pipe cleaners. How the f can they establish a team like that with 35 mil bring their most expensive player? 

Bayern were his preferred choice.

Bayern interest to the player come late. If we was action fast, like Man City or Ac Milan work their business, we may have caught him. Before this happen ....

 

 

Edited June 15, 20179 yr by brakeit

Need to just tune out for this whole window otherwise I'm gonna go insane. 

Hopefully our intent to sign Tolisso will spur Baker on. The message to Baker is clear, the club rated Tolisso higher than you - go and prove us wrong.

Edited June 15, 20179 yr by the special one

16 minutes ago, the special one said:

Hopefully our intent to sign Tolisso will spur Baker on. The message to Baker is clear, the club rated Tolisso higher than you - go and prove us wrong.

he can't prove them wrong if he's not getting the chance to play. i don't know what else he can do tbh. would love to see him play for us. 

46 minutes ago, Paccbet said:

Need to just tune out for this whole window otherwise I'm gonna go insane. 

To realize that, you merely need to stop surfing football forums and shut of your twitter feed.

Or adopt my approach - expect last minute Djilobdojis and Hectors to be signed and you keep your sanity.

8 hours ago, DonAntonio said:

Not sure why we pass up on good players in positions we need that are going for decent money (35 million) which amazingly is a bundesliga record! Yet we want to spank 80 mil on Lukaku when we could have bought Aubameyang or kept Costa, we missed out on Douglas Costa to Bayern too when we needed a RW and landed caudw**ko who turned out to be made of pipe cleaners. How the f can they establish a team like that with 35 mil bring their most expensive player? 

He preferred Bayern so we basically had no chance

Lukaku is a top class striker who has the potential to be world class while Costa quite clearly doesn't want to be here anymore

Cuadrado is sh*t, your right but we didn't miss out on Douglas Costa. He's quite average. Give me Pedro or Willian over him any day

They were able to establish a team like that because they had extremely talented players come through their youth system and are able to dominate the German market by sweeping the best talent in Germany. Lewandowski and Hummels for free is testament to that. Not to mention they are one of the biggest and best clubs in football so players will always want to join them

 

Seriously, no doubt Tolisso is a very talented player but people are going on like we've completely messed up the signing of the 2nd coming of Messi. Get a grip 

 

13 hours ago, magichat said:

lmao i read somewhere on twitter that we were going to wait until after the international fixtures to submit a formal bid for him. hilarious if true. this is why we should do our business early

Thats blatantly bullsh*t.

3 hours ago, Barrettinator said:

Bayern were his preferred choice.

I've been to Munich in my experience it's quant but boring as you like, if I was in 150k a week I know where I would prefer,  not sure why anyone would pick that over London, also our league is night and day to theirs you would assume a player would want some excitement in their career, unless he thinks they have a better shot at the CL I can't understand why anyone would prefer them to us. 

I've been to Munich in my experience it's quant but boring as you like, if I was in 150k a week I know where I would prefer,  not sure why anyone would pick that over London, also our league is night and day to theirs you would assume a player would want some excitement in their career, unless he thinks they have a better shot at the CL I can't understand why anyone would prefer them to us. 

Apart from the CL but, perhaps he sees a guaranteed starting spot slotting in as a direct replacement for Xabi Alonso. If we'd signed him, we'd have likely signed Bakayoko as well. He'd be on the bench a fair bit and have 35-40 total appearances all season with maybe 20% of them being sub appearances. I can see the reasoning behind his decision.

Bayern might want to offload Renato Sanches now though, whom I wouldn't mind us going after.

3 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

Apart from the CL but, perhaps he sees a guaranteed starting spot slotting in as a direct replacement for Xabi Alonso. If we'd signed him, we'd have likely signed Bakayoko as well. He'd be on the bench a fair bit and have 35-40 total appearances all season with maybe 20% of them being sub appearances. I can see the reasoning behind his decision.

Bayern might want to offload Renato Sanches now though, whom I wouldn't mind us going after.

I mean they have much better CM's than us Martinez, Thiago, Vidal, Sanches, who would he have to put out of our team Matic? Who we are trying to sell anyway it seems. Bakayoko would be his only competition if we ended up signing him, he wouldn't know that, looking from the information he would have we have less competition 

I mean they have much better CM's than us Martinez, Thiago, Vidal, Sanches, who would he have to put out of our team Matic? Who we are trying to sell anyway it seems. Bakayoko would be his only competition if we ended up signing him, he wouldn't know that, looking from the information he would have we have less competition 

Oh well, that bridge has sailed now. On to the next one.

33 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

Oh well, that bridge has sailed now. On to the next one.

Excellent mix of metaphors

9 hours ago, DonAntonio said:

I've been to Munich in my experience it's quant but boring as you like, if I was in 150k a week I know where I would prefer,  not sure why anyone would pick that over London, also our league is night and day to theirs you would assume a player would want some excitement in their career, unless he thinks they have a better shot at the CL I can't understand why anyone would prefer them to us. 

Playing in front of 75 000 every week, guaranteed silwerware, legit shot at the CL every year. I can definitely see it

9 hours ago, Xfaxtor said:

Playing in front of 75 000 every week, guaranteed silwerware, legit shot at the CL every year. I can definitely see it

With the competition he's got at Bayern he's more likely to be playing once a month, if he's lucky.

Edited June 16, 20179 yr by abramovich

20 hours ago, DonAntonio said:

I've been to Munich in my experience it's quant but boring as you like, if I was in 150k a week I know where I would prefer,  not sure why anyone would pick that over London, also our league is night and day to theirs you would assume a player would want some excitement in their career, unless he thinks they have a better shot at the CL I can't understand why anyone would prefer them to us. 

bayern are top 3 club in the world and almost guaranteed trophies every year. why wouldn't he go there? 

21 hours ago, DonAntonio said:

I've been to Munich in my experience it's quant but boring as you like, if I was in 150k a week I know where I would prefer,  not sure why anyone would pick that over London, also our league is night and day to theirs you would assume a player would want some excitement in their career, unless he thinks they have a better shot at the CL I can't understand why anyone would prefer them to us. 

 

Most likely the main reason why. The CL is the holy grail of trophies and for the past several years, only 3 teams have really stood out and dominated the competition and thats Bayern, Barca and Real aka the big 3. So its understandable why players would want to go to one of those 3 teams over anywhere else

On 15/06/2017 at 03:53, DonAntonio said:

Not sure why we pass up on good players in positions we need that are going for decent money (35 million) which amazingly is a bundesliga record! Yet we want to spank 80 mil on Lukaku when we could have bought Aubameyang or kept Costa, we missed out on Douglas Costa to Bayern too when we needed a RW and landed caudw**ko who turned out to be made of pipe cleaners. How the f can they establish a team like that with 35 mil bring their most expensive player? 

- They don't behave like mugs in the transfer market. When they are quoted stupid fees they pass.

- Top players in Germany are prepared to run down their contracts in order to get a move to Bayern. None, or little, of this "I couldn't go to another team in the same league" stuff.