This is gonna sound a bit crazy, but I'm feeling in a passionate mood tonight ha. Sell him or loan him to Juventus and buy Vardy. Vardy scored two more goals today which takes his tally to 20 goals. 20 goals in that Leicester side is brilliant. He really does have fantastic movement and clinical finishing. 

Edited May 13, 20188 yr by enigma

5 hours ago, coco said:

We need to get rid of him asap, just because we can't think of an alternative to replace him, doesn't mean we should hold onto him. He's not happy, he's going to miss the WC, go back to Spain for the summer, and then when it comes round to the new season, do you really think he will be happy to come back and face another season over here ?

I'd be happy with Giroud, Zaha and Michy next season, all three have goals in them. Zaha is worth a gamble, proven in this league and he's definitely a decent striker of the ball, unless the club have sourced better and are prepared to pay big money.

Zaha's sh*t in the air though, he gets bullied a lot when he plays central, he does have those physical limitations even if he is fast. 

If we are after a striker we need one who runs away from the ball more than he does run deep for it. Martial would be a better fit than Zaha if we are looking for a striker. 

2 hours ago, enigma said:

This is gonna sound a bit crazy, but I'm feeling in a passionate mood tonight ha. Sell him or loan him to Juventus and buy Vardy. Vardy scored two more goals today which takes his tally to 20 goals. 20 goals in that Leicester side is brilliant. He really does have fantastic movement and clinical finishing. 

Alot of Vardys goals on the counter though, but he is a good finisher. But not for me.

5 minutes ago, jack_super_class said:

Alot of Vardys goals on the counter though, but he is a good finisher. But not for me.

He's also getting on a bit and hardly a model pro in terms of diet (alcoholm drugs etc.) I can see him breaking down soon and when he loses his pace he loses almost everything

We need to wait and see who the manager is first before we make any signings.

Vardy is a counter attack strikers relies on space to run into and quick early ball, he wouldn't get the space in front of him playing for Chelsea, and not the early ball either. He's about to turn 31, that pace he relied on could gone any time now, without the pace he's just an average footballer. Last thing we need is an expensive 31 year old English striker who's losing is pace.

39 minutes ago, icecoolguy22 said:

Vardy is a counter attack strikers relies on space to run into and quick early ball, he wouldn't get the space in front of him playing for Chelsea, and not the early ball either. He's about to turn 31, that pace he relied on could gone any time now, without the pace he's just an average footballer. Last thing we need is an expensive 31 year old English striker who's losing is pace.

He can bloody finish though, you don't need pace to finish.

30 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

He can bloody finish though, you don't need pace to finish.

Batshuayi can finish too...

Vardy would struggle here for the same reasons as others. We want our strikers to be involved in the buildup rather than just finishing. 

This is apparently the reason we bought Morata. He could be involved dropping deep. Turns out he is so weak on the ball that hasn't worked out at all.

5 minutes ago, Spiller86 said:

Vardy would struggle here for the same reasons as others. We want our strikers to be involved in the buildup rather than just finishing. 

This is apparently the reason we bought Morata. He could be involved dropping deep. Turns out he is so weak on the ball that hasn't worked out at all.

 

His build-up play was good first half of the season, much better than Costa's (although not saying much), but it's his finishing that's truly abysmal. I thought Sky Sports did an excellent assessment of our finishing woes this season and Morata. I'm sure you've read it you posted the stats earlier I believe? Morata's conversion rate is atrocious in comparison to all the other strikers in the top 6. 

57 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

He can bloody finish though, you don't need pace to finish.

Need the pace to get on the end of it, and pace buys the precious time to make him a better finisher than he really is, a luxury he won't have for much longer.

I am a massive fan of Vardy, but him coming to Chelsea would be a case of 'wrong club, wrong time' I believe. 

 

59 minutes ago, icecoolguy22 said:

Need the pace to get on the end of it, and pace buys the precious time to make him a better finisher than he really is, a luxury he won't have for much longer.

You see his 2nd goal vs Spurs, that was a top finish with pace or no pace. Don't get me wrong Vardy has pace and that's how Leicester play but once in the position he can f**king finish the ball, you don't have such a great record against the top 6 for nothing.

I'm not saying I want Vardy at Chelsea but he is a top finisher, no getting away from that.

1 hour ago, TheChelsRVA said:

Batshuayi can finish too...

So they are both great finishers 

I think we need a workhorse and workhorse that can finish. My perfect striker would be Diego Costa without the nonsense that comes with him, I don't know if that type of striker exists though. Morata could be quality but when we are up against it he's not someone who's going to pull us out of it. It's going to be an interesting summer and I wouldn't be surprised if we cut our losses on him and look elsewhere. I have a funny feeling it's going to be one of those loan deals with Juventus.

If we had Diego up top this season we would be looking at 3rd.

Edited May 14, 20188 yr by Sheva

Why don't we have a kane in our ranks,instead of trying to find what isn't out there at present,surely one of youngsters could step up.

9 hours ago, Slojo said:

His build-up play was good first half of the season, much better than Costa's (although not saying much), but it's his finishing that's truly abysmal. I thought Sky Sports did an excellent assessment of our finishing woes this season and Morata. I'm sure you've read it you posted the stats earlier I believe? Morata's conversion rate is atrocious in comparison to all the other strikers in the top 6. 

His build up was okay earlier in the year. He didn't dribble into cul de sacs like Costa or lose every header. 

His conversion rate is terrible and that is down to two factors. His weak left foot,  and his mentality, which is I hate to say it Torresian. 

For me he was a bad hire, even with 15 goals (20% of which came in one game against Stoke). The question now is to stick or twist. If Juventus offered us our money back, I'd be in two minds. 

15 hours ago, Sheva said:

I think we need a workhorse and workhorse that can finish. My perfect striker would be Diego Costa without the nonsense that comes with him, I don't know if that type of striker exists though. Morata could be quality but when we are up against it he's not someone who's going to pull us out of it. It's going to be an interesting summer and I wouldn't be surprised if we cut our losses on him and look elsewhere. I have a funny feeling it's going to be one of those loan deals with Juventus.

If we had Diego up top this season we would be looking at 3rd.

Timo werner. 

10 hours ago, Spiller86 said:

...................Decent-ish analysis and then the word of the decade........... Torresian. 

...........................

For linguistic  genius at the Stephen Fry level, take a bow, son.

@yorkleyblue Hahaha. I'm sure I didn't coin that, but I'll take the credit anyway!

That is my biggest worry with Morata, he just has that sulkiness, that ability to miss easy chances, the inability to deal with setbacks, He just feels fragile, exactly like Fernando.

11 hours ago, Spiller86 said:

The question now is to stick or twist. 

He's played in 17 of 19 EPL home games, a total of 18 hours 47 minutes on the pitch, but failed to score one goal with either foot in all that time.

Twist please.

3 minutes ago, coco said:

He's played in 17 of 19 EPL home games, a total of 18 hours 47 minutes on the pitch, but failed to score one goal with either foot in all that time.

Twist please.

I take your point coco, and the fact that's mental not technical makes me think it'll be hard to fix. 

Question for me is who could we genuinely afford to play the lead role next season who has the ability to hold the ball up, contribute to the build up and finish. 

We've seen Michy isn't up to it. Giroud can't lead the line all year. There aren't many other proven options out there.

Icardi is a great finisher, but he doesn't get along with the Barca crew and he doesn't contribute to the build up. He'd also cost a mint.

Belotti went off the boil massively this season, Immobile has failed multiple times outside of Spain. Werner has his own issues with mentality. 

If we're thinking strikers who could be available it's slim pickings. Maybe we should ask for Mandzukic from Juve in part exchange for Morata. He is still a beast. 

I'd be worried if we went into the season with mandzukic and giroud as our strike force. 

I would rather keep morata and hope he plays more like he did at the start of the season. 

 

Todays frontpage of Gazzetta Dello Sport was that Juve wants to replace Mandzukic with Morata.
Juve have had talks with both Morata an us over the last three weeks and they are looking to strike a deal 

Morata is keen to go back and Juve are looking to strike a deal by a large loan-sum plus an obligation to buy at 50 million euros after.

 

I don’t think he can stay, he’s not a premier league striker simple as. He’s a good player still just doesn’t suit this league and especially a team like ours.