1 hour ago, FloridaBLUE86 said:

Can someone phone Christian and tell him he’d have a better chance staying healthy if he had a bigger ass?

I can vouch for that not necessarily being true!!

 

On 15/08/2020 at 16:51, PhilH930 said:

Unfortunate or injury prone, or a combination? He needs to enter the season in a healthy fashion and be well managed. He’s probably more frustrated than anyone, and think it will make him stronger. Just hope he can shake the injuries. 

I think unlucky or if he needs anything perhaps more flexibility.

Let's remember his injuries have been soft tissue injuries that were not caused by contact.

I don't think it's because he isn't strong enough.

2 hours ago, Valpo said:

I think unlucky or if he needs anything perhaps more flexibility.

Let's remember his injuries have been soft tissue injuries that were not caused by contact.

I don't think it's because he isn't strong enough.

Is that a bigger cause for concern ? Any doctor in the house ? 

On 17/08/2020 at 11:09, Valpo said:

I think unlucky or if he needs anything perhaps more flexibility.

Let's remember his injuries have been soft tissue injuries that were not caused by contact.

I don't think it's because he isn't strong enough.

That's a great point, and probably why Tom Brady was making comments on Twitter also  about Pliability or something similar.

On 14/08/2020 at 18:03, Valpo said:

Part of me wonders if he wasn't a childhood fan of Chelsea and that helped influence the decision to transfer to Chelsea.  

 

I mean he's an American growing up in Hersey, PA save for 1 year he spends in England.  In that time he visits Chelsea and gets to see the locker room at age 6 and then later at age 11 secures a tryout with the Chelsea youth squad (although apparently didn't make it.)   Then he transfers to Chelsea as a young adult.

 

That doesn't seem like random chance.  In any of those cases it seems like he could have visited other team's or tried out with other team's youth squads or transferred to another EPL team.  

 

It was just a trial. He's on the record as saying he was a man united fan growing up. Apparently his dad didn't want him joining united a couple of seasons ago as his dad hates Mourinho 

56 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

It was just a trial. He's on the record as saying he was a man united fan growing up. Apparently his dad didn't want him joining united a couple of seasons ago as his dad hates Mourinho 

Smart man, he’d not have got a look in while some 36 year old donkey they’d signed would play ahead of him. 

On 17/08/2020 at 13:23, brownindian said:

Is that a bigger cause for concern ? Any doctor in the house ? 

I'm not sure if it's a bigger cause for concern or not, I'm just pointing out that the concerns about strength are misplaced.  

His injuries have been pulled hamstrings.  That's not something extra strength would help prevent.  So to me that says it's not that he needs to become stronger so much as he needs his muscles to be more flexible.  

Now as to how he could do that. . . I'd leave that up to the pros.  But from what I can tell it's not a problem of "being able to take the physicality of the EPL" it's possibly about muscles that can stand up to the demands of the long season.  

 

14 hours ago, Valpo said:

I'm not sure if it's a bigger cause for concern or not, I'm just pointing out that the concerns about strength are misplaced.  

His injuries have been pulled hamstrings.  That's not something extra strength would help prevent.  So to me that says it's not that he needs to become stronger so much as he needs his muscles to be more flexible.  

Now as to how he could do that. . . I'd leave that up to the pros.  But from what I can tell it's not a problem of "being able to take the physicality of the EPL" it's possibly about muscles that can stand up to the demands of the long season.  

 

I dont know if its just a perception I have but it often seems to me, that a lot of young players coming into the Prem suffer from these types of muscle pulls in their first seasons maybe its the expectation of having to run at full tilt/ do more sprints during an average game that causes it, due to the fast nature of the British game. It also seems that the best/ most determined to make it will overcome this with a training routine that gives them greater flexibility and durability. 

6 hours ago, Bonzodog29 said:

I dont know if its just a perception I have but it often seems to me, that a lot of young players coming into the Prem suffer from these types of muscle pulls in their first seasons maybe its the expectation of having to run at full tilt/ do more sprints during an average game that causes it, due to the fast nature of the British game. It also seems that the best/ most determined to make it will overcome this with a training routine that gives them greater flexibility and durability. 

I have to confess some ignorance here but don't most other European leagues take a break during January while the EPL keeps chugging along.  

I'm not sure if maybe there is something else possibly due to the English style of play that might be involved.  I will say, and I don't want to insult anyone's national pride but I strongly doubt that the game is that much faster or better than that in Germany, France, Italy or Spain.  That said I know they play with different styles and perhaps the English style requires running harder than most, but it's not like the EPL completely dominates the competition in Europe.  They hold their own of course but they arn't clearly heads and tails better.

8 minutes ago, Valpo said:

I have to confess some ignorance here but don't most other European leagues take a break during January while the EPL keeps chugging along.  

I'm not sure if maybe there is something else possibly due to the English style of play that might be involved.  I will say, and I don't want to insult anyone's national pride but I strongly doubt that the game is that much faster or better than that in Germany, France, Italy or Spain.  That said I know they play with different styles and perhaps the English style requires running harder than most, but it's not like the EPL completely dominates the competition in Europe.  They hold their own of course but they arn't clearly heads and tails better.

The English league is clearly faster than any other league and has been universally commented on for a number Boer of years. Naturally our climate will lend itself to a faster pace than one of the hotter Latin countries such as Italy for Spain. The Bundesliga is comparable and for many years has been largely closed to foreign players. I cannot think of many other exports than Keegan and Woodcock in the years prior to the EPL and media money.

Clearly the German mentality is different/better/more structured than our current model as they seem to search for young talent from abroad that they can nurture within an established senior set up

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He must be licking his lips and calling the doctor when he sees the news.

 

7 hours ago, Deino said:

He must be licking his lips and calling the doctor when he sees the news.

 

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7 hours ago, Kev56 said:

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Pulisic is injured. When he sees the signings we're making, he'll be asking the doctor on how long he will be out. He'll surely be excited on playing alongside Werner, Havertz and Ziyech

2 hours ago, Deino said:

Pulisic is injured. When he sees the signings we're making, he'll be asking the doctor on how long he will be out. He'll surely be excited on playing alongside Werner, Havertz and Ziyech

It's funny because Hazard was here for years and never got to play alongside any great players, Pulisic is here a year and he's already getting some of the brightest talents in Europe to play with. 

Although granted, Hazard did first come with Oscar, KDB, Marin and Mata who were hyped at the time. 

43 minutes ago, Slojo said:

It's funny because Hazard was here for years and never got to play alongside any great players, Pulisic is here a year and he's already getting some of the brightest talents in Europe to play with. 

Although granted, Hazard did first come with Oscar, KDB, Marin and Mata who were hyped at the time. 

We should probably see how this turns out.  There is some good cause for optimism but I'm guessing Kepa came in hyped as the next great goalkeeper in football and that didn't turn out too well.  

1 hour ago, Slojo said:

It's funny because Hazard was here for years and never got to play alongside any great players.

Costa, Fabregas, Lampard, Terry, Ashley Cole, Drogba* and most importantly the GOAT himself - Mikel. 
 

*I know most of these were past their peak but they were still great players. 

1 minute ago, Munkworth said:

Costa, Fabregas, Lampard, Terry, Ashley Cole, Drogba* and most importantly the GOAT himself - Mikel. 
 

*I know most of these were past their peak but they were still great players. 

f**king hell, you should've just said Mikel and I would've conceded! 

No but seriously, I mean on the offensive. Prime Drogba never played with Hazard, Terry had a great two years with him, and of course Fabregas. But offensively I mean, he never really got to play with a superb striker. Someone brought it up the other day that Eto'o was actually the best striker he played with and linked up with really well, whereas Costa, despite being a good goal scorer, was awful at linking up with the play. 

I'm not saying we were ever a sh*t team by any means, we won 2 titles with Hazard. I'm just saying we could've had better players around him, especially under Sarri when we still persisted with the same average players in attack (bar Hazard of course). 

2 minutes ago, Slojo said:

I'm just saying we could've had better players around him

He got to play with the German Messi - Marko Marin. Blowing all your theories out the window!

3 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

He got to play with the German Messi - Marko Marin. Blowing all your theories out the window!

He did score against the mighty fierce rivals QPR, fair enough, I concede, I'm going to delete my account immediately. 

1 minute ago, Slojo said:

He did score against the mighty fierce rivals QPR, fair enough, I concede, I'm going to delete my account immediately. 

It’s for the best, you’ve been thoroughly embarrassed. 

How much would he go for this summer (excl covid discounts)? Has to be a 80M+ player now 

1 hour ago, PhilH930 said:

How much would he go for this summer (excl covid discounts)? Has to be a 80M+ player now 

He'd be a gamble at that price with his injury record, i'd say more like £60m atm, 60% whay Hazard was worth, seems about right, but could be £100m+ player if he keeps up that level of performances through a whole season and stays off the medic bench.

When will he be available to start? November?

3 hours ago, Deino said:

When will he be available to start? November?

 

I think a few days after he got injured they said about 6 weeks.  So I would imagine he should be ready before October unless some stuff goes wrong.