Great to see him back out there. Maybe he'll get 20-25 min next game.

On 03/10/2020 at 15:35, haviet1 said:

Great to see him back out there. Maybe he'll get 20-25 min next game.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if he starts.  He has a 2 week break now to get fit, so I should think he would be ready to start.

He might be fully recovered and healthy, but he's no where near "match fit". I think Lamp might want to re-introduce him slowly. A few subs before starting.

22 hours ago, haviet1 said:

He might be fully recovered and healthy, but he's no where near "match fit". I think Lamp might want to re-introduce him slowly. A few subs before starting.

 

And you don't think that he can't become match fit enough to start with at 2 week break? 

2 minutes ago, Valpo said:

 

And you don't think that he can't become match fit enough to start with at 2 week break? 

He might be fit but I doubt he'd be as sharp.

On 19/09/2020 at 08:36, bluedave said:

It's just Newton's 2nd law. Due to their weight, their muscles have to work harder in order to accelerate and change direction, which is often when footballers get injured. The argument here is actually that becoming bulkier probably wouldn't do much to stop Pulisic getting injured so much. 

This might be intuitive but it's more complex because muscle is not a 'dead weight' - you need to actively push against gravity and inertia to change direction. The more strength and power your muscle generate, the lighter the load and therefore the faster you are able to do that.

Muscle power is proportional to muscle mass (specifically, the proportion of 'fast-twitch' muscle fibres) and therefore the more you have, the faster you move. So this means there is a necessary middle ground that needs to be found between the effects of too-little muscle mass (imbalances or inability to shift bodyweight without injury) and Newton's 2nd law (too much mass), but most athletes tend to err on the side of the first one.

I twigged back to this discussion because it seems the media is currently in a tizzy that Pulisic is being given an injury-management plan. Far from being a concern, I can't stress how progressive an idea this is from Chelsea and Lampard. Despite the billions spent on transferring players as assets, football by and large resists the idea of individualised injury-prevention plans (esp for younger players), even though it is commonplace in other sports.

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 08/10/2020 at 07:44, SydneyChelsea said:

This might be intuitive but it's more complex because muscle is not a 'dead weight' - you need to actively push against gravity and inertia to change direction. The more strength and power your muscle generate, the lighter the load and therefore the faster you are able to do that.

Muscle power is proportional to muscle mass (specifically, the proportion of 'fast-twitch' muscle fibres) and therefore the more you have, the faster you move. So this means there is a necessary middle ground that needs to be found between the effects of too-little muscle mass (imbalances or inability to shift bodyweight without injury) and Newton's 2nd law (too much mass), but most athletes tend to err on the side of the first one.

I twigged back to this discussion because it seems the media is currently in a tizzy that Pulisic is being given an injury-management plan. Far from being a concern, I can't stress how progressive an idea this is from Chelsea and Lampard. Despite the billions spent on transferring players as assets, football by and large resists the idea of individualised injury-prevention plans (esp for younger players), even though it is commonplace in other sports.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Probably because it's easier to buy players in football. With billionaire giants backing the elite football clubs and what with having no salary caps, no transfer caps, global reach, everything is free game with the right cash and every season there's a new kid on the block who excels on low wages.

Not many sports enjoy this sort of advantage

On 08/10/2020 at 01:44, SydneyChelsea said:

This might be intuitive but it's more complex because muscle is not a 'dead weight' - you need to actively push against gravity and inertia to change direction. The more strength and power your muscle generate, the lighter the load and therefore the faster you are able to do that.

Muscle power is proportional to muscle mass (specifically, the proportion of 'fast-twitch' muscle fibres) and therefore the more you have, the faster you move. So this means there is a necessary middle ground that needs to be found between the effects of too-little muscle mass (imbalances or inability to shift bodyweight without injury) and Newton's 2nd law (too much mass), but most athletes tend to err on the side of the first one.

I twigged back to this discussion because it seems the media is currently in a tizzy that Pulisic is being given an injury-management plan. Far from being a concern, I can't stress how progressive an idea this is from Chelsea and Lampard. Despite the billions spent on transferring players as assets, football by and large resists the idea of individualised injury-prevention plans (esp for younger players), even though it is commonplace in other sports.

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is what I was getting at, he obviously needed some individual training regime and it's good that he's getting it.

I wonder if there are enough studies about this problem, Pulisic needs to find a balance between his body and muscle otherwise it might affect his career and peak potential.

On 06/10/2020 at 16:29, Valpo said:

And you don't think that he can't become match fit enough to start with at 2 week break? 

No, the clues in the wording, match fitness can only be built up by actually playing games. The difference between being fit and match fit at the top level is huge.

53 minutes ago, Argo said:

No, the clues in the wording, match fitness can only be built up by actually playing games. The difference between being fit and match fit at the top level is huge.

Its immediately visible too, sharpness only comes from playing games. Look at the difference in Silva from his first game and the last one for example.

Bejeesus Christ, thanks for giving me a heart attack. I just saw this thread randomly bumped and expected the worst after the Mendy situation. 

Is he our best player now?  Completely subjective, but seems to have more end product than most.  Maybe most effective.

Edited October 9, 20205 yr by PhilH930

30 minutes ago, PhilH930 said:

Is he our best player now?  Completely subjective, but seems to have more end product than most.  Maybe most effective.

Our most direct in the final third. He doesn't mess about and always had the courage to take people on or find space to attack the goal.

Hope he'll be fit enough to last 60mins by next week

1 hour ago, PhilH930 said:

Is he our best player now?

If we're going to play 11v11 intra squad, who's your first pick? With everyone 100% fit.

It might be Mendy... lol

Feels like everyone to this point has a direct replacement. A place where we can argue who our best might be right now.... except LW

I don't think there's any doubt if he's fit, he's in the team. 

Werner/Havertz may become those guys. Kante is that guy when he's 100% fit. I actually think Dave may be our best big game player. He usually has massive games against City especially. 

Silva could be our MVP of the season if the back four shows massive improvement under his leadership. 

But Pulisic, during project restart, was Chelsea's best player. 

Hopefully he finds that form again, and we have big arguments about who that player is, .Because there are so many choices.  

20 hours ago, PhilH930 said:

Is he our best player now?  Completely subjective, but seems to have more end product than most.  Maybe most effective.

Imo he is but that's because I'm a big Pulisic fan, it's completely understandable why others would say otherwise since he has only had a season here. 

 

20 hours ago, PhilH930 said:

Is he our best player now?  Completely subjective, but seems to have more end product than most.  Maybe most effective.

No until he starts playing at least 80-90% of the games. You can't be the best without playing.

But he is the most talented by far. I think he looks better than Hazard at his age. It took Hazard years to master the technique to score the goals that Pulisic scored for us last season. 

Edited October 10, 20205 yr by Droopy

2 minutes ago, Slojo said:

Imo he is but that's because I'm a big Pulisic fan, it's completely understandable why others would say otherwise since he has only had a season here. 

 

Pulisic was our best attacker prior to his injury, he was carrying us so it's not just a subjective opinion but you can back it up because he was 20-21 years old playing his first season in the PL and for the club and he made 11 goals and 10 assists in all competitions. For a new young winger that's great.

Pulisic offers something our other players don't and that is dribbling at pace in dangerous areas, and has the ability to link with other players.

He certainly made a difference at the tail end of last season though a fair question is whether he is going to be periodically injured. 

 

2 hours ago, Strider6003 said:

Pulisic offers something our other players don't and that is dribbling at pace in dangerous areas, and has the ability to link with other players.

He certainly made a difference at the tail end of last season though a fair question is whether he is going to be periodically injured. 

 

 

No doubt he was the best Chelsea player the last 2-3 months of the previous season. The question is, can he replicate that form for a full season while staying healthy. The scary thing is, he still got lots of room to improve. Imagine a Pulisic that's 24-26 years old, if he can stay off the injury list.

 

21 hours ago, Droopy said:

No until he starts playing at least 80-90% of the games. You can't be the best without playing.

But he is the most talented by far. I think he looks better than Hazard at his age. It took Hazard years to master the technique to score the goals that Pulisic scored for us last season. 

The best ability is availability.

This is a good sight

 

 

 

 

Decent game today. Will need a few more matches to get back to 100% sharpness.

 

 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, haviet1 said:

Decent game today. Will need a few more matches to get back to 100% sharpness.

 

 

 

 

 

What a player, get him in the right position and you're laughing, very excited to see what happens once Ziyech comes into the mix. 

Christian to the left, Ziyech to the right, Werner in the middle and behind Kai. - Our most potent attack and all of them should be our default go-to starting lineup.

Play them a few games till they get used to each other and you'll get a brutal attack.

Even on the right hand side Pulisic had a decent contribution today.

I'm still trying to understand why he played on the right and Mount played on the left.