On 13/03/2023 at 23:08, Mário César said:

todd said few times that tuchel vision about chelsea was different than todd vision and rest of the board but which things they don't like about tuchel ideas? 

I never get a truly explication about this differences between both 

From what I can gather Todd/Eghbali and co wanted a collaborative effort from top to bottom whereas Tuchel wanted to just be left alone to coach.

Very ironic Roman/Marina's found their perfect manager at the very end.

1 hour ago, Argo said:

From what I can gather Todd/Eghbali and co wanted a collaborative effort from top to bottom whereas Tuchel wanted to just be left alone to coach.

Very ironic Roman/Marina's found their perfect manager at the very end.

Had they had a little more patience I think he would have worked perfectly fine with Vivell and his team.

Tuchel basically had to handle the new owners during their idiot stage in the summer. Matt Law reported they tried to push Ronaldo of all players on him five or six times over the duration of the summer, The Athletic reported they suggested we switch to the well known 4-4-3 formation etc.

Best thing to do would have been to bring the football people in first and then make the huge decisions after. Anyone think Vivell would have sacked Tuchel for Potter? I certainly don't.

3 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Anyone think Vivell would have sacked Tuchel for Potter? I certainly don't.

Has Tuchel gotten along with any sporting director in his managerial career?

7 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Has Tuchel gotten along with any sporting director in his managerial career?

Yes, got along great with Cech & Marina.

3 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Yes, got along great with Cech & Marina.

I wouldn't consider either a traditional sporting director in the sense they are responsible for the entire structure and ethos of the club on and off the pitch. 

Marina got deals done and to this day I am not sure what Cech even responsible for. To me it seemed like he served as a middle man between manager and Marina. 

1 minute ago, Sconnie Blue said:

wouldn't consider either a traditional sporting director in the sense they are responsible for the entire structure and ethos of the club on and off the pitch. 

Marina got deals done

Marina was ruling the entire club with an iron first. She literally had the final say in just about everything, or her and Roman but Roman left pretty much everything to her the last few years. 

Just now, OriginalS said:

Marina was ruling the entire club with an iron first. She literally had the final say in just about everything, or her and Roman but Roman left pretty much everything to her the last few years. 

Right she was the finance. If the transfer made financial sense, she'd approve it. 

Still wouldn't ever consider her a traditional sporting director. 

 

3 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Right she was the finance. If the transfer made financial sense, she'd approve it. 

Still wouldn't ever consider her a traditional sporting director. 

 

It's pretty widely reported that she was. Also quite telling that Boehly announced himself as the new interim sporting director as it was announced that Marina was gone...

We had a sporting director up until 2017 and that was Emenalo but after that she absorbed that role into her own. And promoted McLachlan as her right hand man to identify targets and that was obviously a complete disaster.

I think our recruting was so bad was because the departing of emenalo.

afterwards we buy a lot of sh*t players

that can't be coincidence 

On 15/03/2023 at 15:58, Mário César said:

I think our recruting was so bad was because the departing of emenalo.

afterwards we buy a lot of sh*t players

that can't be coincidence 

It's a role that's been vacant since he's left. 

Still, even with Emenalo we failed to establish any sort of identity as a club. 

12 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

It's a role that's been vacant since he's left. 

Still, even with Emenalo we failed to establish any sort of identity as a club. 

but it was not so sh*t since he left 

its not coincidence that after our 2017 epl title that we simply can't challenge for the title 

bad decisions after bad decisions 

Apparently we're about to buy a stake in Strabourg. Haven't been a fan of some of Boehly's footballing decisions, but the multi-club model seems really promising

13 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Apparently we're about to buy a stake in Strabourg. Haven't been a fan of some of Boehly's footballing decisions, but the multi-club model seems really promising

The problem with Boehly was that he was too rash in selecting Tuchel's successor.

Potter's got a lot to prove still.

I hope Boehly doesn't spend a penny on new players. If he lets Potter continue it is a total waste of money. Let's be active on transfer markets after five years.

4 hours ago, Deino said:

The problem with Boehly was that he was too rash in selecting Tuchel's successor.

Potter's got a lot to prove still.

Everything about the summer was too rash. All over the place in the transfer market, making us look stupid as a club at times, sacking Tuchel and hiring Potter of all coaches as his replacement. They seemed to have calmed down a bit since then, but we are still paying for that now.

2 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

Everything about the summer was too rash. All over the place in the transfer market, making us look stupid as a club at times, sacking Tuchel and hiring Potter of all coaches as his replacement. They seemed to have calmed down a bit since then, but we are still paying for that now.

It looks like the people they hired to help have helped us a fair bit in Janauary.

Question marks are there on Gusto, Santos and DD Fofana, however Santos in particular looks impressive.

Badiashile looks value for money in this crazy market. 

Mudryk? Let's see, too early for me to judge.

Enzo? He is our Modric. Hopefully we can hold on to him, he is worth every penny.

11 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

It looks like the people they hired to help have helped us a fair bit in Janauary.

Question marks are there on Gusto, Santos and DD Fofana, however Santos in particular looks impressive.

Badiashile looks value for money in this crazy market. 

Mudryk? Let's see, too early for me to judge.

Enzo? He is our Modric. Hopefully we can hold on to him, he is worth every penny.

Similarly with Felix. I think he is an entertainer and in the right structure and used in the correct way he could be one of the most influential AMs in the division 

2 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Similarly with Felix. I think he is an entertainer and in the right structure and used in the correct way he could be one of the most influential AMs in the division 

I am yet to be convinced by him. He seems to me to be a Zola type player, and that is a huge mantel to live up to.

Todd not too happy then.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11877955/S-f-ing-game-Chelsea-owner-Boehly-makes-frustration-known-2-2-draw-Everton.html

The opportunity to sack Potter has come and gone already. (After Saints).

I'd give him the Champions League and see what happens. Although, if he is sacked during the international break, I understand. 

I think they will get rid of him eventually just not yet

Todd is Potters biggest supporter and thenone that went after him the strongest.

If his faith is eroding then Potter won't be given much more time.

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

Todd is Potters biggest supporter and thenone that went after him the strongest.

If his faith is eroding then Potter won't be given much more time.

I wonder if the probability of missing out on the Champions League for 23/24 is actually now starting to bite ? It's going to be a huge hit on the TV revenue, tens of millions of pounds and possibly 10-15% of turnover, and I highly doubt Clearlake allowed for that in their budgeting model.

We had two slim chances of qualifying for next year.  In the space of three days those chances have significantly eroded, with an almost impossibly difficult QF/SF draw for this year's competition, and then the loss of two points to Everton pretty much removing the slimmest of slim outside chances that we might still make the Top 4 with a strong run of wins to the end of the season.

6 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

The opportunity to sack Potter has come and gone already. (After Saints).

I'd give him the Champions League and see what happens. Although, if he is sacked during the international break, I understand. 

Agreed. I think Potter will get the rest of the season at this point no matter what happens. Whether he gets beyond that may well depend on how we do in April. 8 games including the 2 QF's against Real Madrid.

5 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

I wonder if the probability of missing out on the Champions League for 23/24 is actually now starting to bite ? It's going to be a huge hit on the TV revenue, tens of millions of pounds and possibly 10-15% of turnover, and I highly doubt Clearlake allowed for that in their budgeting model.

We had two slim chances of qualifying for next year.  In the space of three days those chances have significantly eroded, with an almost impossibly difficult QF/SF draw for this year's competition, and then the loss of two points to Everton pretty much removing the slimmest of slim outside chances that we might still make the Top 4 with a strong run of wins to the end of the season.

I think if it was purely about qualifying for next season's Champions League they would have taken action in January/February. Even though there will be a financial hit, it has been pretty clear now for some time that we are unlikely to be in Europe next season.