10 minutes ago, Mod said:

Colwill is another asset option, maybe for next season to fill in the blanks again!

We could have had the easiest pure profit of all time last summer with Brighton and Liverpool interested.

If they saw him that way he'd already be gone.

3 minutes ago, Argo said:

We could have had the easiest pure profit of all time last summer with Brighton and Liverpool interested.

If they saw him that way he'd already be gone.

We'd make more by bringing him back, making him a starter, and cashing in when needed! Maybe low on the radar with Big Trev and Conor as assets!

Who knows, maybe Levi is a keeper (at least now) like Reece, but it doesn't discount that both Trev and Conor are sold purely for profit!

19 minutes ago, Mod said:

Who knows, maybe Levi is a keeper 

I'd actually be on board with that... although maybe we give Sanchez just a couple more matches.

1 hour ago, Gordon Bennett said:

Why don't we simply sell Disasi and/or Badiashile for a profit?

Cos the only mugs paying big money for them already have.

4 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

The problem I have is that there are players that we've bought that aren't as good as Trev.

Selling him isn't because he's not good enough , it's purely because of PSR. If it wasn't for the " pure profit" thing , he would stay and a few of our rubbish imports would be out the door.

Anyway, are you working from the sofa again?

😂

 

 

Whether or not signed players are better than what our academy produces wasn't the point of my incredibly insightful and sensible post, it addressed Icecoolguy's doubts young players would bother with our academy anymore.

 

It's summer, everybody is away and I have to get organised for the purchase of a new flat. The sofa is a good place for my anxiety attacks 

I disagree with the opinion that Trev is decent or just a backup/squad player, he is absolute quality and on his way to being world class, was our best centre back last season especially when our form was top 4! Positioning, always in the right place at the right time. Tackling, aggressive and clean, brilliant at last ditch tackles too. On the ball, composed and rarely loses the ball, can play out of tight situations, can play it short or long. Technically top tier. Can score goals too, headed, in the box and long range. He is also quicker than crocked Fofana and Colwill, and the slow Disasi, Badiashille and Tosin. 
 

Anyway, I hope he goes and signs for a top club and wins championships, he deserves it. He’s never complained or made noise unlike Colwill, works hard and is loyal. All the best Chalobah…

 

3 hours ago, Argo said:

 

Then why is Colwill still here?

I don't think he's reached their valuation of him yet. Colwill is a biggie in their eyes...he's currently not worth 100 or 70mil or whatever the valuation is they've put him at atm, but once he does, I can see them selling him Imho.

The “brothers of destruction”…brilliant!

1 hour ago, Simplymo said:

I don't think he's reached their valuation of him yet. Colwill is a biggie in their eyes...he's currently not worth 100 or 70mil or whatever the valuation is they've put him at atm, but once he does, I can see them selling him Imho.

Liverpool going by reports were prepared to go close to their transfer records to get him as they saw him as the long term replacement for VVD.

Brighton were prepared to get significantly less strict with the Caicedo negotiations if we gave up Colwill, be it as part of the deal or a separate one.

And above all that, Levi himself strongly implied he was keeping his options open and wouldn't be against a move.

I'm sorry but this fantasy selling of Colwill is ridiculous, he'd sell for ridiculous numbers already. Put him up for sale tomorrow and any club that can afford him with the possible exception of Arsenal are all over it.

Edited July 24, 20241 yr by Argo

5 hours ago, Argo said:

The fact Gallagher was his main untouchable (and even selected over the big new signing Nkunku when the Frenchman was fit) alone totally disproves that theory.

 

Then why is Colwill still here?

About being told who to play. Poch was asked why he played one of our £100m players straight from returning from South America..., Poch said he would have been shot if he didn't play him.

He had to explain afterwards that it was a joke, ......hmmm

52 minutes ago, Argo said:

Liverpool going by reports were prepared to go close to their transfer records to get him as they saw him as the long term replacement for VVD.

Brighton were prepared to get significantly less strict with the Caicedo negotiations if we gave up Colwill, be it as part of the deal or a separate one.

And above all that, Levi himself strongly implied he was keeping his options open and wouldn't be against a move.

I'm sorry but this fantasy selling of Colwill is ridiculous, he'd sell for ridiculous numbers already. Put him up for sale tomorrow and any club that can afford him with the possible exception of Arsenal are all over it.

Why aren't we selling him ?

 

 

10 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Why aren't we selling him ?

 

 

A very deep and profound question there mate, 🤣

7 hours ago, Argo said:

Or they'd look at Colwill getting a big new contract while we told Bayern and Liverpool to f**k off.

Our first four title winning sides had 1 academy player playing regularly, Conte's had none.

Just a matter of time, give it 2-3 years the need to make money outweighs anything else.

Every title winning teams had senior players and squad players like Trevor, funny how these Americans knew nothing about football think they could disrupt the game.

59 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

About being told who to play. Poch was asked why he played one of our £100m players straight from returning from South America..., Poch said he would have been shot if he didn't play him.

He had to explain afterwards that it was a joke, ......hmmm

Hmmmm, indeed...lol

He was right the first time.

 

1 hour ago, Argo said:

Liverpool going by reports were prepared to go close to their transfer records to get him as they saw him as the long term replacement for VVD.

Brighton were prepared to get significantly less strict with the Caicedo negotiations if we gave up Colwill, be it as part of the deal or a separate one.

And above all that, Levi himself strongly implied he was keeping his options open and wouldn't be against a move.

I'm sorry but this fantasy selling of Colwill is ridiculous, he'd sell for ridiculous numbers already. Put him up for sale tomorrow and any club that can afford him with the possible exception of Arsenal are all over it.

 

57 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Why aren't we selling him ?

 

 

Maybe I was too low with 100mil! Although I disagree someone will pay 100mil for colwill at this moment in time.

But...

if he's valued at 100mil now/then with Liverpool willing to break records and Brighton willing to give us caicedo for free even, then can you imagine his cost once hes played more than a handful of games in his actual position and developed more in one full season of playing.

I can imagine boehly getting a hard on and thinking well in that case next year let's see if he'd go for 150mil! Once hes obviously played a full season in his correct position and showed off his true abilities and talent. Tbh we can all agree he wasnt all that at left back.

even i can see the dollar signs now in my head from a business point of view. Same for maybe james at his 50mil evaluation maybe? Honestly no idea what price tags the americans have put on each of our lot but they will never sell cheap when they know they can get more for them and everyone has a price tag in their eyes, imho.

 

1 hour ago, icecoolguy22 said:

Just a matter of time, give it 2-3 years the need to make money outweighs anything else.

Every title winning teams had senior players and squad players like Trevor, funny how these Americans knew nothing about football think they could disrupt the game.

Okay well when there's even a flicker of a report from a reliable source suggesting they're open to it happening then we can come back to it. However the facts so far we've paid more money for two players to ensure we kept him aswell as told two of the biggest clubs in Europe to f**k off, so as of this moment suggesting he'd be forced out doesn't stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny, infact I'd say it's just as wild as if someone posted that they'll do a u turn on Chalobah and make him our highest earner.

10 hours ago, Argo said:

We could have had the easiest pure profit of all time last summer with Brighton and Liverpool interested.

If they saw him that way he'd already be gone.

Why would you sell colwill when you think he can get better and increase his value even more 

5 hours ago, Argo said:

Liverpool going by reports were prepared to go close to their transfer records to get him as they saw him as the long term replacement for VVD.

Brighton were prepared to get significantly less strict with the Caicedo negotiations if we gave up Colwill, be it as part of the deal or a separate one.

And above all that, Levi himself strongly implied he was keeping his options open and wouldn't be against a move.

I'm sorry but this fantasy selling of Colwill is ridiculous, he'd sell for ridiculous numbers already. Put him up for sale tomorrow and any club that can afford him with the possible exception of Arsenal are all over it.

Transfer record 😂😂😂

If pool offered 100m for Colwill, we would have sold him. 

 

“The Trevoh situation for me is quite clear, we have Axel [Disasi] there, we have Tosin [Adarabioyo] there, we have Wes [Fofana] who in these two weeks has worked very good and is finally back, we have some very young profiles like Josh Acheampong who is doing fantastic,” said Maresca. “It’s a sad decision but we have to take the decision.”

 

 

 

I really really hope I'm wrong and the first game of preseason was no indication of our cb quality but no way should we sell trev on that showing!

2 hours ago, Simplymo said:

“The Trevoh situation for me is quite clear, we have Axel [Disasi] there, we have Tosin [Adarabioyo] there, we have Wes [Fofana] who in these two weeks has worked very good and is finally back, we have some very young profiles like Josh Acheampong who is doing fantastic,” said Maresca. “It’s a sad decision but we have to take the decision.”

 

 

 

I really really hope I'm wrong and the first game of preseason was no indication of our cb quality but no way should we sell trev on that showing!

 

Two of the senior team members he mentioned are definitively worse players than Chalobah, and Fofana has hardly played for two years. Presumably he's just forced to shill for the terrible decisions made by the club management rather than stupid, but time will tell. 

Personally I do not think that it is a mistake to sell Trev.  i think the way that it is happening is harsh. He has been at the club since he was 8 and he is now 25. His brother was at the club. He has a loyalty to the club that is amazing. But he is not a starter at CB/RB for me. I think it was a mistake when we sold Tomori, but selling Chalobah is not a mistake, it is his time to move on. We have witnessed the best games of Jehovah's son.

On 25/07/2024 at 10:00, PloKoon13 said:

Presumably he's just forced to shill for the terrible decisions made by the club management rather than stupid, but time will tell. 

Let's not discount the possibility that he is both stupid, and a shill!

8 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

But he is not a starter at CB/RB for me

Issue is he's outperformed the supposed starters whenever he's been given the opportunity.

1 hour ago, cfr95 said:

Issue is he's outperformed the supposed starters whenever he's been given the opportunity.

On occasion no doubt.  At RB James and Gusto are clearly ahead of him.  At CB it is him or Disasi - thats the real choice. Neither are starters. The club has chosen Disasi over Trev.   Disasi V Chalobah.  Both big strong lads. Disasi has 5 caps fro France and Trev hasn't ever made the full England squad. You could be right in that Disasi is more erratic than Trev. But I like the personality of Disasi more. Disasi has more passion for the game imho.

Tough decision - he should be on the preseason tour. 

On 26/07/2024 at 14:35, TheCeleryKing said:

On occasion no doubt.  At RB James and Gusto are clearly ahead of him.  At CB it is him or Disasi - thats the real choice. Neither are starters. The club has chosen Disasi over Trev.   Disasi V Chalobah.  Both big strong lads. Disasi has 5 caps fro France and Trev hasn't ever made the full England squad. You could be right in that Disasi is more erratic than Trev. But I like the personality of Disasi more. Disasi has more passion for the game imho.

In rgds to cb's and chalobah vs disasi, I'm not so sure mate. Personally I feel more relaxed and there are less sh*tting myself moments with Chalobah instead of Disasi or Badiashile.