August 24, 20232 yr Mike Dean has admitted to having seen the Cucurella hair pull vs Spurs last season on VAR, but did not want to ask Taylor to view it as "he did not want to make him look bad". Probably his dislike of Chelsea FC did not hold back his choice there either eh. Confirms what we have suspected since it came in. VAR is being used by corrupt individuals to influence games the way they want.
August 25, 20232 yr Yes, the paywalled Telegraph have published Dean's astounding confession of match-fixing, to spare his mate Taylor from having Ng to take a look at the monitor. "Former Premier League referee Mike Dean failed to intervene on a major VAR call because he didn’t want to cause his friend Anthony Taylor any ‘grief’, he has revealed. In a remarkably candid admission, Dean said he made the “pathetic” call at the climax of the 2-2 draw between Tottenham and Chelsea last August. Cristian Romero pulled Marc Cucurella’s hair seconds before Harry Kane’s 96th minute equaliser, and Dean acknowledged that in the heat of the moment he made a bad choice not to suggest on-field official Taylor consider a sending off offence. “I missed the stupid hair pull at Chelsea versus Tottenham which was pathetic from my point of view,” Dean told Up Front with Simon Jordan. “It’s one of them where if I had my time again, what would I do? I’d send Anthony [Taylor] to the screen. I think I knew if I did send him to the screen … he’s cautioned both managers, he’s had a hell of a game, it’s been such a tough game end to end. “I said to Anthony afterwards: ‘I just didn’t want to send you to the screen after what has gone on in the game’. I didn’t want to send him up because he is a mate as well as a referee and I think I didn’t want to send him up because I didn’t want any more grief than he already had. “Anthony, he is big and bald and ugly enough to know if he is going to the screen he is going to the screen for a reason. If someone pulls their hair now it’s dead easy. It’s just a brainwave by me, a really bad call by me, and it kind of affected me as VAR going forward.” https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/08/24/mike-dean-anthony-taylor-video-assistant-referee-tottenham/ One of the bigger refereeing scandals English football has seen, but it won't be reported as such.
August 25, 20232 yr It’s disgraceful really - a really poor reflection on the level of officiating in the so-called best league in the world. We just have to move on.
August 25, 20232 yr Just confirming what we know about football in general the fish is rotten from the FIFA head down.
August 25, 20232 yr 8 hours ago, Backbiter said: Yes, the paywalled Telegraph have published Dean's astounding confession of match-fixing, to spare his mate Taylor from having Ng to take a look at the monitor. "Former Premier League referee Mike Dean failed to intervene on a major VAR call because he didn’t want to cause his friend Anthony Taylor any ‘grief’, he has revealed. In a remarkably candid admission, Dean said he made the “pathetic” call at the climax of the 2-2 draw between Tottenham and Chelsea last August. Cristian Romero pulled Marc Cucurella’s hair seconds before Harry Kane’s 96th minute equaliser, and Dean acknowledged that in the heat of the moment he made a bad choice not to suggest on-field official Taylor consider a sending off offence. “I missed the stupid hair pull at Chelsea versus Tottenham which was pathetic from my point of view,” Dean told Up Front with Simon Jordan. “It’s one of them where if I had my time again, what would I do? I’d send Anthony [Taylor] to the screen. I think I knew if I did send him to the screen … he’s cautioned both managers, he’s had a hell of a game, it’s been such a tough game end to end. “I said to Anthony afterwards: ‘I just didn’t want to send you to the screen after what has gone on in the game’. I didn’t want to send him up because he is a mate as well as a referee and I think I didn’t want to send him up because I didn’t want any more grief than he already had. “Anthony, he is big and bald and ugly enough to know if he is going to the screen he is going to the screen for a reason. If someone pulls their hair now it’s dead easy. It’s just a brainwave by me, a really bad call by me, and it kind of affected me as VAR going forward.” https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/08/24/mike-dean-anthony-taylor-video-assistant-referee-tottenham/ One of the bigger refereeing scandals English football has seen, but it won't be reported as such. So wheres his punishment???? Isn't VAR supposed to be correcting these issues but instead its creating more issues in the game. I already had a feeling VAR is there for potential match fixing and now its been confirmed So he didn't want to give him grief? What about grief for the fans or for the club??? If we missed out on a title/CL because of the 2 points then what???
August 25, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, PhilH930 said: It’s disgraceful really - a really poor reflection on the level of officiating in the so-called best league in the world. We just have to move on. Would be interesting to see how differently things pan out had we won that game. Does Tuchel keep his job? I know it wasn't performance, but 2 extra points in that game and more positivity around the team could have made a lot of difference.
August 25, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, Conte said: So wheres his punishment???? Isn't VAR supposed to be correcting these issues but instead its creating more issues in the game. I already had a feeling VAR is there for potential match fixing and now its been confirmed So he didn't want to give him grief? What about grief for the fans or for the club??? If we missed out on a title/CL because of the 2 points then what??? Settle down. Reverse the situation, Chelsea player pulls an oppo player's hair at the other end, Dean would have acted the same way. His bizarre motive was to somehow protect his mate. From what I don't know. Dean was always a problematic ref, a show-boater, now he has sunk himself.
August 25, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, dermott said: Settle down. Reverse the situation, Chelsea player pulls an oppo player's hair at the other end, Dean would have acted the same way. His bizarre motive was to somehow protect his mate. From what I don't know. Dean was always a problematic ref, a show-boater, now he has sunk himself. From what I believe it was 2-1 at the time his hair was pulled, if we got a pen it would have been 3-1 If we pulled somebodies hair in their box it would have been a guaranteed pen. So you dont give a decision to protect a mate? Your doing a bloody job your not there to protect mates. Should be sacked or punished like how our manager got punished after the tuchel vs conte fight
August 25, 20232 yr It was a guaranteed pen that Dean didn't refer to Taylor. He wouldn't have referred it at the other end with roles reversed. Nowt to do with match fixing is my point.
August 25, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, dermott said: It was a guaranteed pen that Dean didn't refer to Taylor. He wouldn't have referred it at the other end with roles reversed. Nowt to do with match fixing is my point. It wasn't a pen that Taylor missed, it was the hair pull (violent conduct). It would have given us a free kick with seconds to play, and Spuds would not have had the corner from which they scored.
August 25, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, Backbiter said: It wasn't a pen that Taylor missed, it was the hair pull (violent conduct). It would have given us a free kick with seconds to play, and Spuds would not have had the corner from which they scored. You're quite right.
August 25, 20232 yr So where is the apology to Chelsea? I didn't see it in that article, maybe it's he sent it via mail 🙄 It's unbelievable, you are paid to watch the goal ( with other video refs) and somehow managed to miss it completely. It's incident ( deliberate) like that makes me think AI VAR is the way to go, at least when computer f* it up it's just random.
August 25, 20232 yr It's insane the only two times a ref has come out and admitted they didn't do their job properly on purpose is to penalise Chelsea against Tottenham.
August 25, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, icecoolguy22 said: So where is the apology to Chelsea? I didn't see it in that article, maybe it's he sent it via mail 🙄 It's unbelievable, you are paid to watch the goal ( with other video refs) and somehow managed to miss it completely. It's incident ( deliberate) like that makes me think AI VAR is the way to go, at least when computer f* it up it's just random. The problem with VAR is the human being at the controls.
August 25, 20232 yr 24 minutes ago, bisright1 said: It's insane the only two times a ref has come out and admitted they didn't do their job properly on purpose is to penalise Chelsea against Tottenham. It is also insane that two of the most high-profile refs in English football history have publicly admitted to reffing a huge fixture in a dishonest manner to the detriment of one of the teams (coincidentally, Chelsea in both cases). I genuinely consider this to be a form of match-fixing that should come with legal consequences to protect the integrity of the sport.
August 25, 20232 yr I think the issue is less about a specific vendetta against Chelsea, and more about an issue with how personal relationships are impacting the professionalism of the referees/VAR officials. Its a serious lack of professional standards to choose to "protect your mate" from criticism (which he wouldnt have got anyway as it was a clear foul!) in a match with so much riding on it. Jobs on the line, win bonuses lost, longer term ambitions impacted. One decision has massive consequences in a ruthless, results-driven business like football.
August 25, 20232 yr Why does the PL need this group to referee? No issues signing foreign players. Why not seek out higher performing referees and bring them in. The current organization has demonstrated they aren’t fit for the job.
August 25, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, PhilH930 said: Why does the PL need this group to referee? No issues signing foreign players. Why not seek out higher performing referees and bring them in. The current organization has demonstrated they aren’t fit for the job. Where from? There are a handful of unquestionably good refs in the world.
August 25, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, icecoolguy22 said: So where is the apology to Chelsea ? I didn't see it in that article, maybe it's he sent it via mail 🙄 It's unbelievable, you are paid to watch the goal ( with other video refs) and somehow managed to miss it completely. It's incident ( deliberate) like that makes me think AI VAR is the way to go, at least when computer f* it up it's just random. Unbelievable isn't it ... The technology works well. The problem is (some of) the bell ends sat in front of the TV screens ... I'd like to see AI draw the "offside" lines, but the bigger problem with offsides is the daft idea in the rules of a finger tip (or other non-footballing part of the body) being a significant factor in an offside call Edited August 25, 20232 yr by Sexyfootball
August 25, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Backbiter said: It wasn't a pen that Taylor missed, it was the hair pull (violent conduct). It would have given us a free kick with seconds to play, and Spuds would not have had the corner from which they scored. Correct. It was in our penalty area. Certainly Romero would have been sent off. However, I am not sure that they would have given us a free kick in that scenario. VAR can overturn goals and give penalties/red cards, but is it confirmed that they can overturn a corner and give a free kick that they missed when it wasn't caught at the time? If not then Spurs would have been down to 10 but they still would have thrown everything at the corner being it was the last kick of the game.
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