3 hours ago, Backbiter said:

It wasn't a pen that Taylor missed, it was the hair pull (violent conduct). It would have given us a free kick with seconds to play, and Spuds would not have had the corner from which they scored. 

Probable red card too

9 minutes ago, forbzy said:

Correct. It was in our penalty area. Certainly Romero would have been sent off. However, I am not sure that they would have given us a free kick in that scenario. VAR can overturn goals and give penalties/red cards, but is it confirmed that they can overturn a corner and give a free kick that they missed when it wasn't caught at the time? If not then Spurs would have been down to 10 but they still would have thrown everything at the corner being it was the last kick of the game.

Its violent conduct so pretty much trumps most other decisions currently on the pitch.

35 minutes ago, forbzy said:

Correct. It was in our penalty area. Certainly Romero would have been sent off. However, I am not sure that they would have given us a free kick in that scenario. VAR can overturn goals and give penalties/red cards, but is it confirmed that they can overturn a corner and give a free kick that they missed when it wasn't caught at the time? If not then Spurs would have been down to 10 but they still would have thrown everything at the corner being it was the last kick of the game.

Yeah I understand your point but the rules are if a red card is issued then the team gets the free kick. So a corner would be overturned in this instance. 

9 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Yeah I understand your point but the rules are if a red card is issued then the team gets the free kick. So a corner would be overturned in this instance. 

Thanks for confirming.

Absolutely unbelievabe.

What a d**khead, he should have done the right thing at the time , instead he's looking out for his mate ?

f**k off

It’s stuff like this that’s made me slowly just not give a sh*t anymore. 
 

‘Nah mate, didn’t happen.’

17 hours ago, Backbiter said:

Yes, the paywalled Telegraph have published Dean's astounding confession of match-fixing, to spare his mate Taylor from having Ng to take a look at the monitor.

"Former Premier League referee Mike Dean failed to intervene on a major VAR call because he didn’t want to cause his friend Anthony Taylor any ‘grief’, he has revealed.

In a remarkably candid admission, Dean said he made the “pathetic” call at the climax of the 2-2 draw between Tottenham and Chelsea last August.

Cristian Romero pulled Marc Cucurella’s hair seconds before Harry Kane’s 96th minute equaliser, and Dean acknowledged that in the heat of the moment he made a bad choice not to suggest on-field official Taylor consider a sending off offence.

“I missed the stupid hair pull at Chelsea versus Tottenham which was pathetic from my point of view,” Dean told Up Front with Simon Jordan.

“It’s one of them where if I had my time again, what would I do? I’d send Anthony [Taylor] to the screen. I think I knew if I did send him to the screen … he’s cautioned both managers, he’s had a hell of a game, it’s been such a tough game end to end.

“I said to Anthony afterwards: ‘I just didn’t want to send you to the screen after what has gone on in the game’. I didn’t want to send him up because he is a mate as well as a referee and I think I didn’t want to send him up because I didn’t want any more grief than he already had.

“Anthony, he is big and bald and ugly enough to know if he is going to the screen he is going to the screen for a reason. If someone pulls their hair now it’s dead easy. It’s just a brainwave by me, a really bad call by me, and it kind of affected me as VAR going forward.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/08/24/mike-dean-anthony-taylor-video-assistant-referee-tottenham/

One of the bigger refereeing scandals English football has seen, but it won't be reported as such.

 

I don't know what is going on in the premier league but if an official in the NFL admitted to missing a call just cause he didn't feel like making the call or because it might make a friend look bad, that official would be fired.  And while I don't think it would go this far, there would be calls for them to be criminally prosecuted for match fixing.  

And lord knows the NFL isn't full of saints but you couldn't make an admission like that and keep your job.  

It is unfathomable to me that Mike Dean still has a job.    

12 minutes ago, Valpo said:

 

I don't know what is going on in the premier league but if an official in the NFL admitted to missing a call just cause he didn't feel like making the call or because it might make a friend look bad, that official would be fired.  And while I don't think it would go this far, there would be calls for them to be criminally prosecuted for match fixing.  

And lord knows the NFL isn't full of saints but you couldn't make an admission like that and keep your job.  

It is unfathomable to me that Mike Dean still has a job.    

Not to nitpick, but he doesn't have a job. Other than being a pundit for sky sports occasionally. 

25 minutes ago, Munkunku said:

It’s stuff like this that’s made me slowly just not give a sh*t anymore. 
 

‘Nah mate, didn’t happen.’

 

 

I was having a good day, now I'm all pissed off about a match that took place a year ago.  And I keep having this probably inaccurate belief that had the outcome of that been different perhaps the outcome of the season would have been different.  

6 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Not to nitpick, but he doesn't have a job. Other than being a pundit for sky sports occasionally. 

I thought he still did VAR but he apparently has retired from that too.

Good riddance.  

Edited August 25, 20232 yr by Valpo

57 minutes ago, Munkunku said:

It’s stuff like this that’s made me slowly just not give a sh*t anymore. 
 

‘Nah mate, didn’t happen.’

An embarrassment.

Firstly, they don't understand the meaning of the word 'refute', which requires evidence that undermines or disproves the claim (they don't provide it). They may deny or dispute it, but they have failed to refute it.

Secondly, the 'suggestion' that VARs don't intervene when they identify a clear and obvious error is an actual public confession by a high-profile referee with some 20 years experience in the Premier League. That's a hell of a lot more than a 'suggestion'. 

1 hour ago, Valpo said:

 

 

I was having a good day, now I'm all pissed off about a match that took place a year ago.  And I keep having this probably inaccurate belief that had the outcome of that been different perhaps the outcome of the season would have been different.  

Just take a deep breath and remember it’s a game for children. 

Laughable PGMOL .. can’t believe in the 21st century we have such old boys club.. you scratch my back I will scratch yours..

7 minutes ago, Jangz said:

Laughable PGMOL .. can’t believe in the 21st century we have such old boys club.. you scratch my back I will scratch yours..

That's an unbelievable response from the PGMOL ... they can f**k off on the same goat that Dean is riding out of town on ... 

"We strongly refute any suggestion that VARs do not intervene, for whatever reason, when they have identified a clear and obvious error."

w**kers. 

They should have chastised Dean and apologised profusely to us ... 

 

Apparently, the refs are not happy with Dean's confession that he cheated us out of a win to spare his buddy from having to look at a monitor.

What an embarrassment of an organization that PGMOL are.  They lack any sort of integrity with that cowardly statement.  Can't say I am surprised though.

We had our apology yet?

4 minutes ago, dkw said:

We had our apology yet?

Seen any piggy porkers flying outside your windows recently?

'VARs undergo extensive training with the focus centred entirely around effectively working with the on-field team of officials to rectify clear and obvious errors (relating to goals, penalties, red cards and mistaken identity).

 

'When VARs identify a clear and obvious error by the on-field team of match officials, they should intervene and recommend a review by the referee. 

 

'We strongly refute any suggestion that VARs do not intervene, for whatever reason, when they have identified a clear and obvious error.'

14 minutes ago, mojo said:

 

 

'We strongly refute any suggestion that VARs do not intervene, for whatever reason, when they have identified a clear and obvious error.'

We consider our former colleague an utter liar, and this proves that you can't trust a word that comes out of a referee's mouth. We  contend that he did, in fact, intervene after spotting a Spurs player committing a violent act, and Chelsea fans, players and officials are just paranoid.'

Mike Dean on sky now, what an arrogant pathetic attention seeking w**ker he is, still not even one apology to our club or us fans from him. f**king prick.

Edited August 26, 20232 yr by dkw

1 hour ago, dkw said:

Mike Dean on sky now, what an arrogant pathetic attention seeking w**ker he is, still not even one apology to our club or us fans from him. f**king prick.

Appalling. As you say, still no apology.

And SSN, like the BBC and the Mirror, inaccurately reporting the incident, claiming we were denied a penalty.

 

Edited August 26, 20232 yr by Backbiter

This is getting to be a habit, about time the club asked for answers. 

We’ve had two refs in recent history that have admitted cheating, remember Clattenburg also v Spuds when he refused to show 2nd yellows to several Spuds players as he didn’t want to be the reason why they didn’t win the league, and then later admitted it.

1 hour ago, Backbiter said:

Appalling. As you say, still no apology.

And SSN, like the BBC and the Mirror, inaccurately reporting the incident, claiming we were denied a penalty.

 

All good publicity for him. I would imagine he has a book coming out soon.

I'm not too sure about other teams but I know we seem to get the short end of the stick by a few referees, particularly in big games. Anthony Taylor and Chris Foy are two of the worst referees I've seen when it comes to Chelsea, always giving us red cards and f**king us over in big games especially. Chris Foy had a ridiculous stat something like 8 red cards against us in 30 refereed games. 

Mark Clattenburg another twat Coco mentioned earlier who actually admitted to fixing a game because he didn't want bad PR he f**ked us over in a few big games also. I remember when he awarded RVP two penalties for clear dives, I could even tell at the time he was sh*t scared of getting bollocked by Ferguson because it could've completely ruined Uniteds season.

These referees are just awful, badly trained, and succumb to pressure far too easily.