There is little interest in Dusan, he is just one of many PSG options. 

Think he stays to the end of the window and it comes down to whether he accepts the Saudi deal or not.

Just now, axman2526 said:

There is little interest in Dusan, he is just one of many PSG options. 

Think he stays to the end of the window and it comes down to whether he accepts the Saudi deal or not.

Saudi deal might be off the table by the time he gets his head out his arse and realises it’s his best option though. We could end up stuck with this prick…..

14 minutes ago, SimonH said:

Saudi deal might be off the table by the time he gets his head out his arse and realises it’s his best option though. We could end up stuck with this prick…..

It won't ever be off the table I reckon. A name like Lukaku (who is still relatively in his prime) will be a major attraction to a Saudi club. 

 

As was already obvious, his "love" for Inter was conditional to getting the unchallenged starting spot he feels he's entitled too.

Imagine actually defending this guy.

22 minutes ago, Argo said:

As was already obvious, his "love" for Inter was conditional to getting the unchallenged starting spot he feels he's entitled too.

Imagine actually defending this guy.

What a scumbag this guy is...

I'm thinking maybe we could interest West Ham... given they're trying to sign Harry McGuire

Didn’t AC Milan sell their striker to Newcastle against his wishes. Just do this to Lukaka and ship him to the desert. 

2 hours ago, Argo said:

As was already obvious, his "love" for Inter was conditional to getting the unchallenged starting spot he feels he's entitled too.

Imagine actually defending this guy.

Romelus love of Inter is far less than his love of Romelu.

Also why should he not be starting a CL final? He is at the same level of Benzema remember? 

If he watches the CL final highlights he might see why he didn’t start. Sure the block was tough (but stopped a goal) and missed a sitter if a header. 

Make him train on his own,don’t register him for anything 

if he stays away fine him every week his whole wages 

ruin what’s left of his career 

He does have an unique way of making people dislike him. Pogba and Lukaku in the same dressing room again😅

9 hours ago, Argo said:

As was already obvious, his "love" for Inter was conditional to getting the unchallenged starting spot he feels he's entitled too.

Imagine actually defending this guy.

  Lukaku for £34m. To Juventus. But that depends on a deal between Paris St-Germain and Juve for Dusan Vlahovic.

Don't care where he goes. But he cannot stay.

 

9 hours ago, Argo said:

As was already obvious, his "love" for Inter was conditional to getting the unchallenged starting spot he feels he's entitled too.

Imagine actually defending this guy.

Inter have preferred options in Alvaro Morata and Arsenal's 22-year-old Folarin Balogun.

We preferred Morata over Big Rom many years ago too.

6 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

Inter have preferred options in Alvaro Morata and Arsenal's 22-year-old Folarin Balogun.

We preferred Morata over Big Rom many years ago too.

I genuinely would have took Morata back in that early period of 2021 if it meant getting shot of Rom.

Honestly I'm more angry at the club about this situation than I am with him, he's a dick but we decided to sign him despite already having an in house example of his inflated ego and lack of character, any vetting process worth its salt would have ended with us steering miles clear.

It was bad enough some supporters not doing their due diligence but for the club to allow such an oversight was unforgivable. It was that signing that made me realise we were never challenging City again under the Roman/Marina regime.

1 hour ago, Argo said:

I genuinely would have took Morata back in that early period of 2021 if it meant getting shot of Rom.

Honestly I'm more angry at the club about this situation than I am with him, he's a dick but we decided to sign him despite already having an in house example of his inflated ego and lack of character, any vetting process worth its salt would have ended with us steering miles clear.

It was bad enough some supporters not doing their due diligence but for the club to allow such an oversight was unforgivable. It was that signing that made me realise we were never challenging City again under the Roman/Marina regime.

Although I agree with your sentiment, I think you're dining out on this one a bit long.

There was no hard evidence, prior to his signing, that Lukaku would be such a mess. Social media commentary is not evidence. What actual vetting process would have a club, or anyone for that matter, do? 

Lukaku, for the most part, had managed to deal with his issues under Conte. He was a different player and person, especially from the club's perspective seeing as he moved on from Mino Raiola's management. 

Lukaku and only Lukaku is to blame for his failure here. It was his decision to refuse to adapt to Tuchel's system; actually, he was doing okay and we were doing really well until his injury and that infamous Juventus game. He wasn't playing optimally and we weren't using him optimally, but instead of making do he decided it was entirely the club's fault he wasn't performing. 

It's easy for us to say "the evidence was there all along" in hindsight but that's simple confirmation bias speaking. 

On 14/07/2023 at 21:15, The Rising Sun said:

Mudryk for £88 million ?

Far too early to tell, i see no reason why he won't be a massive success in future though. This is his year to kick on after the successful Euro's.

3 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

 Lukaku and only Lukaku is to blame for his failure here. It was his decision to refuse to adapt to Tuchel's system; actually, he was doing okay and we were doing really well until his injury and that infamous Juventus game. He wasn't playing optimally and we weren't using him optimally, but instead of making do he decided it was entirely the club's fault he wasn't performing. 

 

I don't think it was Lukaku alone. 

IMO our situation was actually very similar to Haaland situation with City. Early in the season, we n city were doing allright with Haaland n Lukaku, not bad but there was clearly problem. 

Lukaku went down, we reverted back to no st and we played better and once Lukaku came back, it was a mess. 

City on the other, adapted the team toward Haaland. Cancelo was replaced by Ake. Two destroyer in midfield. Problem solved. 

In order for TT system to work, his st need to move side to side, run the channel to create space for others. I don't think Lukaku can play this way. It also make no sense asking him to play this way. I also think TT knew this.

Can tuchel follow Pep way and adapt the team towards Lukaku ? Absolutely, But he decided not to do it. 

I am not so sure the reason. If I want to push certain agenda, I will say tuchel picked the team over Lukaku but it was not the team, it is just one or two guys. 

2 hours ago, Bob stark said:

 

In order for TT system to work, his st need to move side to side, run the channel to create space for others. I don't think Lukaku can play this way. It also make no sense asking him to play this way. I also think TT knew this.

Thing is, that's exactly how Lukaku played for Inter and Belgium, and how he himself alleges he is best used. Lukaku peeled to the wing for the early ball to chase down, creating a physical mismatch with a fullback or dragging a CB out of position. Unlike Havertz and Werner, he could actually beat a man off the dribble, making him ideal for Tuchel's system in theory. 

Something happened where Lukaku decided to contribute less, his team-mates pick him out less, and it's a vicious snowball of decline. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Bob stark said:

I don't think it was Lukaku alone. 

IMO our situation was actually very similar to Haaland situation with City. Early in the season, we n city were doing allright with Haaland n Lukaku, not bad but there was clearly problem. 

Lukaku went down, we reverted back to no st and we played better and once Lukaku came back, it was a mess. 

City on the other, adapted the team toward Haaland. Cancelo was replaced by Ake. Two destroyer in midfield. Problem solved. 

In order for TT system to work, his st need to move side to side, run the channel to create space for others. I don't think Lukaku can play this way. It also make no sense asking him to play this way. I also think TT knew this.

Can tuchel follow Pep way and adapt the team towards Lukaku ? Absolutely, But he decided not to do it. 

I am not so sure the reason. If I want to push certain agenda, I will say tuchel picked the team over Lukaku but it was not the team, it is just one or two guys. 

That's how he played at Inter under Conte (and for Belgium). At Chelsea he was played primarily as a target man. 

4 minutes ago, SydneyChelsea said:

Thing is, that's exactly how Lukaku played for Inter and Belgium, and how he himself alleges he is best used. Lukaku peeled to the wing for the early ball to chase down, creating a physical mismatch with a fullback or dragging a CB out of position. Unlike Havertz and Werner, he could actually beat a man off the dribble, making him ideal for Tuchel's system in theory. 

Something happened where Lukaku decided to contribute less, his team-mates pick him out less, and it's a vicious snowball of decline. 

 

 

You beat me to it. He started relatively well, suffered the calf injury against Malmo, then Covid. By the time he came back TT was playing him strictly as a target man. The snowball started. Then the personality issues - the interview - arose. The snowball picked up speed.

8 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

Although I agree with your sentiment, I think you're dining out on this one a bit long.

There was no hard evidence, prior to his signing, that Lukaku would be such a mess. Social media commentary is not evidence. What actual vetting process would have a club, or anyone for that matter, do? 

Lukaku, for the most part, had managed to deal with his issues under Conte. He was a different player and person, especially from the club's perspective seeing as he moved on from Mino Raiola's management. 

Lukaku and only Lukaku is to blame for his failure here. It was his decision to refuse to adapt to Tuchel's system; actually, he was doing okay and we were doing really well until his injury and that infamous Juventus game. He wasn't playing optimally and we weren't using him optimally, but instead of making do he decided it was entirely the club's fault he wasn't performing. 

It's easy for us to say "the evidence was there all along" in hindsight but that's simple confirmation bias speaking. 

He literally threw some of his teammates under the bus by leaking confidential data at Man.United because he upset at critism while when Solskjaer came in and told him he had to fight for his place (compared to Jose who handed it to him unconditionally) he buggered off at the first available opportunity which he also did with us the first time (via weeks of gobbing off to the media) hence the in house example.

Regarding him changing at Inter, as a player he was still sh*t in big games (no non penalty goals vs Juve and f**king up their Europa final), as a person Conte constantly blowing smoke up his arse if anything made his ego bigger (hence the comments comparing himself favourably to the best strikers of this generation, which should have been another red flag picked up right off the bat).

Regarding his start I did for the first couple of weeks try to get on board and convince myself everything my eyes have seen for a decade was wrong, but it took until the second half at Anfield (where he was walking around while the other 8 outfielders were working their bollax off to maintain the result) for the scales to fall back down from my eyes and ofcourse the following pair of big games (City/Juve) he rather predictably did absolutely f**k all.

Edited July 17, 20233 yr by Argo

Today is the day he, Ziyech and Aubameyang all needed to return to Cobham right? Wonder if they did.

Juventus fans organized a protest outside the club's medical center chanting "we don't want Lukaku"...

@Argoman you let us down, where was our protest 2 years ago?

🤣

Edited July 17, 20233 yr by axman2526

11 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Juventus fans organized a protest outside the club's medical center chanting "we don't want Lukaku"...

@Argoman you let us down, where was our protest 2 years ago?

🤣

Would have been utterly pointless unfortunately. I would say around 90% were too excited about him "coming home" and even if i attempted to instigate one I would have probably been told I'm not a proper fan 🤣

12 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Far too early to tell, i see no reason why he won't be a massive success in future though. This is his year to kick on after the successful Euro's.

True mate, couldn't tell how good anyone was from that disaster last year, but I reckon you're right, he looks like he's got the making of something special 

12 hours ago, Bob stark said:

I don't think it was Lukaku alone. 

IMO our situation was actually very similar to Haaland situation with City. Early in the season, we n city were doing allright with Haaland n Lukaku, not bad but there was clearly problem. 

Lukaku went down, we reverted back to no st and we played better and once Lukaku came back, it was a mess. 

City on the other, adapted the team toward Haaland. Cancelo was replaced by Ake. Two destroyer in midfield. Problem solved. 

In order for TT system to work, his st need to move side to side, run the channel to create space for others. I don't think Lukaku can play this way. It also make no sense asking him to play this way. I also think TT knew this.

Can tuchel follow Pep way and adapt the team towards Lukaku ? Absolutely, But he decided not to do it. 

I am not so sure the reason. If I want to push certain agenda, I will say tuchel picked the team over Lukaku but it was not the team, it is just one or two guys. 

Tuchel actually said that the beauty ( or words to that effect) of Lukaku was that the team didn't have to adapt our system to get the best out of him.

That told me it would never work. Lukaku kept pointing and looking for an early ball which would arrive  10 minutes later with Lukaku sorrounded by defender.

The final piece of the jigsaw my arse