When ex refs and pros from other teams are saying something is wrong you know its bad...

even the spurs fans acknowledge it was a red card 

and it's in everyone's interest

it could happen to your team as well (except if your a Liverpool fan of course)

91k signed the petition so far

100k soon !

If Tuchel gets a lengthy ban for what he said about AR, the club should lodge a law suit. It's for the best interest of the game, AR will never explain his actions, the best thing for the game is for him to stay out of Chelsea game until he retires.

5 minutes ago, icecoolguy22 said:

If Tuchel gets a lengthy ban for what he said about AR, the club should lodge a law suit. It's for the best interest of the game, AR will never explain his actions, the best thing for the game is for him to stay out of Chelsea game until he retires.

Regardless, the club should be registering a formal compliant about his record in our games with the evidence.

I personally would love to see refs held accountable. Much the same as Tuchel having to sit in a conference and explain his actions and thoughts after a game, as do players.

Refs have a ridiculously difficult job but they held unaccountable for what seems like blatant match fixing. 

 

(Stolen from Daniel Childs on Twitter)

8 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

 

(Stolen from Daniel Childs on Twitter)

 

 

2 hours ago, Davey Baby said:

This is the game that first alerted me to Taylor's bias against us, and it was 5 and a half years ago. We were playing Stoke away, under Conte ironically, and we were kicked off the park for 90 minutes, and the ref did nothing, I remember watching in incredulity. The ref just let them do what they want. As you'll see, right at the end, their player gets a second yellow and a red card, but this was with mere seconds remaining, we'd won the game, and as the commentator says, that was the fourth yellow card tackle the defender had committed. 

 

What really stuck out was Stoke's two goals, one disallowed and the other a pen which was awarded to them. We go 1-0 up and Stoke equalise but the linesman disallows it for an obvious push on Matic which Taylor "misses". Not content, Taylor runs over to the linesman to seek clarification, something you very rarely see. The linesman explains what happened and the goal's disallowed. Not content, minutes later, Taylor awards Stoke a pen, that none of their players claimed for. This time he sees a push. Watch it yourself. It's the merest of touches, and look at Taylor's position, he's miles away.

 

I remember thinking at the time, this ref's a cheat.

 

A couple of months later, in the FA Cup final, Taylor awarded Arsenal a goal when it was a clear handball in the build-up, right in front of him. Not only that however, they have a player in an offside position who's clearly interfering with play, so much so that Courtois runs towards him thinking he's going to touch the ball. The linesman disallows the goal. What happened? Taylor runs over to the linesman, speaks to him, and gives the goal. You very rarely see a ref run over to the linesman with a view to possibly overruling him but here we see it twice in the space of 10 weeks.

 

For all I know, Taylor didn't officiate any Chelsea games between those two matches, so in all likelihood that's two consecutive matches where the linesman has disallowed a goal against us for clear infringements and Taylor has run over to him with a view of overruling his linesman. These are the things that get missed. People highlight the spectacular errors he makes against us, as they should, but the fact decisions in our favour are under far more scrutiny from him should also be highlighted.

 

Yesterday was incredible. He saw the hair-pulling. It was right in front of him. He was looking straight at it. He was five yards away, if that. It's a straight red. It's an easy decision. Instead he consults his VAR official who happens to be Mike Dean. What could possibly go wrong?

 

I know people might think this is paranoid or conspiratorial but in the case of Taylor it's open and shut. Since Liverpool away last season where he sent off Reece he's been much fairer in our games because he knows he's been called out, but yesterday he reverted to type and I think there's too much suspicion around him for him to be allowed to ref our games. He becomes the focus rather than the game, all trust has been eroded, and I think the authorities need to keep him well away from us from now on. Of course he can still influence our fate by refereeing our rivals and giving them favourable decisions but that's completely out of our hands. Liverpool and Utd particularly seem to do well out of him. It's in our hands to highlight his bias against us. Don't stop until something gets done.

 

Videos like the below need to be shared far and wide and I applaud any campaign that seeks to get him banned from our games. Enough is enough. Unfortunately the video is vertical (it's easier to watch on your phone, as you can tilt it sideways) and I'm not very technical so I'd appreciate it if anyone can make it horizontal, or maybe there's a better video on youtube that I haven't seen. None of the incidents in the game against Stoke got any coverage, because we won the game in the late stages and their player was sent off, so it looks like nothing untoward happened. However the ref cheated us for 90 minutes.

 

Their disallowed goal on 2mins 40secs, their pen on 4mins 20 secs, and their red card on 11mins 50 secs.

 

 

 

If anyones good on twitter and socials, I really think this post and video should both be circulated. Its gone beyond a joke the way he is screwing us over. It might seem like just two points, but we are already playing catchup now. not to mention we would be 3 points above spurs instead of being level. Not to mention the sheer efforts of the fans and players who deserve to celebrate yesterday.

 

 

 

14 hours ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

Dont care if Tuchel gets fined for his comments, I'm glad he at least put it out there. Maybe the FA will finally do something

Nice thought - but unfortunately they won't - its exactly the type of publicity they yearn for 🤬

13 hours ago, just said:

Done Oli and forward on to a few Chelsea mates as well. Everyone needs to sign this and more importantly the club need to make a formal complaint to the FA.

Done ! and forwarded, but am NOT paying them !!

Article in the Mirror highlighting all the instances when the FA has effectively stopped certain refs from reffing some teams:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/anthony-taylor-chelsea-referee-petition-27740360

Taylor, Dean, Clattenburg, Atkinson and Mason have all been affected. Strangely, we've never been the beneficiaries of this FA policy. Hopefully we will be now. (oh yeah).

I would just love the Head of the PGMOL to come out and give us an honest appraisal of BOTH Taylor and Dean's (VAR) performances following yesterday's debacle. PGMOL is a limited company, so presumably it has shareholders. If one of my employees did his job so frighteningly badly that our customers (that's what Premier League fans are) were asking questions about that employee's integrity, then I would investigate and inform that custtomer, what I had done about the employee's performance or behaviour,

I challenge the CEO or MD of PGMOL  to do the DECENT thing !!!

3 hours ago, Davey Baby said:

This is the game that first alerted me to Taylor's bias against us, and it was 5 and a half years ago. We were playing Stoke away, under Conte ironically, and we were kicked off the park for 90 minutes, and the ref did nothing, I remember watching in incredulity. The ref just let them do what they want. As you'll see, right at the end, their player gets a second yellow and a red card, but this was with mere seconds remaining, we'd won the game, and as the commentator says, that was the fourth yellow card tackle the defender had committed. 

 

What really stuck out was Stoke's two goals, one disallowed and the other a pen which was awarded to them. We go 1-0 up and Stoke equalise but the linesman disallows it for an obvious push on Matic which Taylor "misses". Not content, Taylor runs over to the linesman to seek clarification, something you very rarely see. The linesman explains what happened and the goal's disallowed. Not content, minutes later, Taylor awards Stoke a pen, that none of their players claimed for. This time he sees a push. Watch it yourself. It's the merest of touches, and look at Taylor's position, he's miles away.

 

I remember thinking at the time, this ref's a cheat.

 

A couple of months later, in the FA Cup final, Taylor awarded Arsenal a goal when it was a clear handball in the build-up, right in front of him. Not only that however, they have a player in an offside position who's clearly interfering with play, so much so that Courtois runs towards him thinking he's going to touch the ball. The linesman disallows the goal. What happened? Taylor runs over to the linesman, speaks to him, and gives the goal. You very rarely see a ref run over to the linesman with a view to possibly overruling him but here we see it twice in the space of 10 weeks.

 

For all I know, Taylor didn't officiate any Chelsea games between those two matches, so in all likelihood that's two consecutive matches where the linesman has disallowed a goal against us for clear infringements and Taylor has run over to him with a view of overruling his linesman. These are the things that get missed. People highlight the spectacular errors he makes against us, as they should, but the fact decisions in our favour are under far more scrutiny from him should also be highlighted.

 

Yesterday was incredible. He saw the hair-pulling. It was right in front of him. He was looking straight at it. He was five yards away, if that. It's a straight red. It's an easy decision. Instead he consults his VAR official who happens to be Mike Dean. What could possibly go wrong?

 

I know people might think this is paranoid or conspiratorial but in the case of Taylor it's open and shut. Since Liverpool away last season where he sent off Reece he's been much fairer in our games because he knows he's been called out, but yesterday he reverted to type and I think there's too much suspicion around him for him to be allowed to ref our games. He becomes the focus rather than the game, all trust has been eroded, and I think the authorities need to keep him well away from us from now on. Of course he can still influence our fate by refereeing our rivals and giving them favourable decisions but that's completely out of our hands. Liverpool and Utd particularly seem to do well out of him. It's in our hands to highlight his bias against us. Don't stop until something gets done.

 

Videos like the below need to be shared far and wide and I applaud any campaign that seeks to get him banned from our games. Enough is enough. Unfortunately the video is vertical (it's easier to watch on your phone, as you can tilt it sideways) and I'm not very technical so I'd appreciate it if anyone can make it horizontal, or maybe there's a better video on youtube that I haven't seen. None of the incidents in the game against Stoke got any coverage, because we won the game in the late stages and their player was sent off, so it looks like nothing untoward happened. However the ref cheated us for 90 minutes.

 

Their disallowed goal on 2mins 40secs, their pen on 4mins 20 secs, and their red card on 11mins 50 secs.

 

 

 

That Stoke game and the first Taylor FA cup final fiasco were just the hors d'oeuvre to his masterclass of cheating in the notorious Manure game. Here Spuds fans Martin Lipton gives a full breakdown of how he utterly screwed us that night:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/10987295/man-utd-chelsea-var-2-0/

100k reached on the petition !!

3 hours ago, Davey Baby said:

This is the game that first alerted me to Taylor's bias against us, and it was 5 and a half years ago. We were playing Stoke away, under Conte ironically, and we were kicked off the park for 90 minutes, and the ref did nothing, I remember watching in incredulity. The ref just let them do what they want. As you'll see, right at the end, their player gets a second yellow and a red card, but this was with mere seconds remaining, we'd won the game, and as the commentator says, that was the fourth yellow card tackle the defender had committed. 

 

What really stuck out was Stoke's two goals, one disallowed and the other a pen which was awarded to them. We go 1-0 up and Stoke equalise but the linesman disallows it for an obvious push on Matic which Taylor "misses". Not content, Taylor runs over to the linesman to seek clarification, something you very rarely see. The linesman explains what happened and the goal's disallowed. Not content, minutes later, Taylor awards Stoke a pen, that none of their players claimed for. This time he sees a push. Watch it yourself. It's the merest of touches, and look at Taylor's position, he's miles away.

 

I remember thinking at the time, this ref's a cheat.

 

A couple of months later, in the FA Cup final, Taylor awarded Arsenal a goal when it was a clear handball in the build-up, right in front of him. Not only that however, they have a player in an offside position who's clearly interfering with play, so much so that Courtois runs towards him thinking he's going to touch the ball. The linesman disallows the goal. What happened? Taylor runs over to the linesman, speaks to him, and gives the goal. You very rarely see a ref run over to the linesman with a view to possibly overruling him but here we see it twice in the space of 10 weeks.

 

For all I know, Taylor didn't officiate any Chelsea games between those two matches, so in all likelihood that's two consecutive matches where the linesman has disallowed a goal against us for clear infringements and Taylor has run over to him with a view of overruling his linesman. These are the things that get missed. People highlight the spectacular errors he makes against us, as they should, but the fact decisions in our favour are under far more scrutiny from him should also be highlighted.

 

Yesterday was incredible. He saw the hair-pulling. It was right in front of him. He was looking straight at it. He was five yards away, if that. It's a straight red. It's an easy decision. Instead he consults his VAR official who happens to be Mike Dean. What could possibly go wrong?

 

I know people might think this is paranoid or conspiratorial but in the case of Taylor it's open and shut. Since Liverpool away last season where he sent off Reece he's been much fairer in our games because he knows he's been called out, but yesterday he reverted to type and I think there's too much suspicion around him for him to be allowed to ref our games. He becomes the focus rather than the game, all trust has been eroded, and I think the authorities need to keep him well away from us from now on. Of course he can still influence our fate by refereeing our rivals and giving them favourable decisions but that's completely out of our hands. Liverpool and Utd particularly seem to do well out of him. It's in our hands to highlight his bias against us. Don't stop until something gets done.

 

Videos like the below need to be shared far and wide and I applaud any campaign that seeks to get him banned from our games. Enough is enough. Unfortunately the video is vertical (it's easier to watch on your phone, as you can tilt it sideways) and I'm not very technical so I'd appreciate it if anyone can make it horizontal, or maybe there's a better video on youtube that I haven't seen. None of the incidents in the game against Stoke got any coverage, because we won the game in the late stages and their player was sent off, so it looks like nothing untoward happened. However the ref cheated us for 90 minutes.

 

Their disallowed goal on 2mins 40secs, their pen on 4mins 20 secs, and their red card on 11mins 50 secs.

 

 

 

Great post. Just relived that game and now have a very stiff neck.

Bardsley was one of the biggest thugs to ever play in the Premier League. I remember his horrific tackle on Eden Hazard a few years ago, not too dissimilar to that assault on Fabregas (can be watched without swivelling your head)

 

2 hours ago, coco said:

Taylor will just say he didn't see , it's always the easy escape for refs, but VAR ref Mike Dean ? whats his excuse for not calling it violent conduct ? i would pay good money to put him on the spot and ask the same question. What are his possible answers ? Not enough force ?,....This is would likely be the most obvious answer. So lets go with that. How much force constitutes a red card ? Surely pulling a player to the ground by their hair requires a certain amount of force, and if this is deemed a yellow, when does the red card come out for hair pulling? it can't get any worse in regards of hair pulling, do the refs want to see clumps of hair in a players hand before they are sent off ?

 

According to MotD last night, Huth got a retrospective 3 match ban for this. That won't happen to Romero because, er, the ref and VAR saw it at the time and decided it was fine. But it shows that the FA did once consider a hair pull - even one that doesn't involve throwing a player to the floor - to be violent conduct. I'd like to see the minutes of the meeting when they decided that is no longer the case.

I don't know what that moron is still doing in high level football. Embarrassment for the PL tbh.

Pundits, ex players, fans, the media, everybody can see it now, even @Davey Baby returned to the forum to have a say 😆

1 hour ago, Backbiter said:

According to MotD last night, Huth got a retrospective 3 match ban for this. That won't happen to Romero because, er, the ref and VAR saw it at the time and decided it was fine. But it shows that the FA did once consider a hair pull - even one that doesn't involve throwing a player to the floor - to be violent conduct. I'd like to see the minutes of the meeting when they decided that is no longer the case.

If we have a comfortable lead v Tottenham in any of the cups or the return fixture I hope we bring on one of our fringe players towards the end for the sole purpose of ripping Romeros ugly hair off.

Clearly it's allowed and if he's sent off then the FA will have just confirmed they are corrupt bastards.

4 hours ago, RMH said:

I don’t like conspiracy theories either, but when you read what Clattenburg had to say about his refereeing in 2016 at the Bridge against these same dirty c**ts, spurs, you have to wonder if some referees do not like to create drama at our stadium, to set us off so to speak. It’s obvious, from what Clattenburg said, that referees take biased, conscious decisions, and with Taylor it always seems to be against us.

Is it a conspiracy theory anymore when the likes of Clattenburg and Halsey have admitted to these things happening?

I don't remember the FA doing any investigating after what they said, are they in on it? They know it gets people talking and adds to the drama, so it wouldn't surprise me if they encourage it. If Anthony Taylor see's the foul on Cucurella, then they don't get that 2nd corner in the final minute of the game and the game ends with an anti-climax. English football can't have that, the drama must go on until the last second.

At some point we got to get this out our head.... f**k all is going to happen except TT get a fine. 

All in all we have registered our disgust,..... energy should now be on next match. 

 

 

4 hours ago, Backbiter said:

Article in the Mirror highlighting all the instances when the FA has effectively stopped certain refs from reffing some teams:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/anthony-taylor-chelsea-referee-petition-27740360

Taylor, Dean, Clattenburg, Atkinson and Mason have all been affected. Strangely, we've never been the beneficiaries of this FA policy. Hopefully we will be now. (oh yeah).

Paul Tierney for Liverpool game as well.