Does Todd and co. not realise there will be more young prospects appearing next year or the year after that.  We don’t need to buy them all this year.  

I’m sure they’re blowing the whole billion pound they’re contracted to spend in one go so they can go full Glazer mode sooner rather later.  I’m hoping there’s a genius master plan somewhere in all this transfer madness.

32 minutes ago, CFCCAN said:

He has a batting average of .720; an average of 6 strike outs per game, 45 points per game including 10 3pointers, 3 dunks and 15 turnovers.....that's the best I can come up with 😲  other than that he's sh*te for £60M

How many sacks? How many fumbles? 

34 minutes ago, DarkMata said:

Does Todd and co. not realise there will be more young prospects appearing next year or the year after that.  We don’t need to buy them all this year.  

I’m sure they’re blowing the whole billion pound they’re contracted to spend in one go so they can go full Glazer mode sooner rather later.  I’m hoping there’s a genius master plan somewhere in all this transfer madness.

Hopefully they're also realising that we cannot go into a season with Havertz, Mount, Sterling, Aubameyang, and 'Ol glass hamstrings. We've lost 3 attackers already - Lukaku, Werner, Ziyech and have brought in Sterling so far. 

I must say, I love a good punt. Gordon's defensive stats are mighty impressive. His attacking stats are heavily caveated by the fact that he plays for Everton who were horrendous last season. Even so, he's clearly physically strong, a very good dribbler, and takes a mean setpiece.

Is he worth 60m? Of course not, but I've got a feeling he'll be a sleeper hit down that right flank. I mean imagine being harried by Mount, Kante, Gordon, and James down the right?!!! We may just see a few early retirements. 

Edited August 23, 20223 yr by venom2011

1 hour ago, Nibs said:

This is a real head scratcher and for the life of me I just can't fathom it.

Who had even heard of this bloke until mid-way through last season. A promising young player but no more than that.  He has only broken into the Everton side because they are Everton. He wouldn't be in any other top side and if he was at our academy he would be out on loan so why are we talking of spunking £60M on him FFS?

Utter desperation and madness and youngsters already at our club who have toiled hard must be thinking WTF?

I pray this one doesn't happen as it will go horribly wrong.

Same, literally praying for this to fall through.

£60m for a runner, who puts in ‘effort’ and can press. Wow. Just wow. 

1 hour ago, ducavis said:

Everton are now demanding either Broja or Gallagher on loan as part of the deal. It’s a crazy deal; why not a loan swap & then assess it at the end of the season?

Or better still, fck off.

Gilmour on loan, Barkley permant for Demarai Gray the other way.

15 minutes ago, Term_X said:

Same, literally praying for this to fall through.

£60m for a runner, who puts in ‘effort’ and can press. Wow. Just wow. 

I bet if a top team came in for Mason Mount, half their fanbase would say the same thing. And we know how moronic that would be. 

Edited August 23, 20223 yr by venom2011

14 minutes ago, venom2011 said:

Hopefully they're also realising that we cannot go into a season with Havertz, Mount, Sterling, Aubameyang, and 'Ol glass hamstrings. We've lost 3 attackers already - Lukaku, Werner, Ziyech and have brought in Sterling so far. 

I must say, I love a good punt. Gordon's defensive stats are mighty impressive. His attacking stats are heavily caveated by the fact that he plays for Everton who were horrendous last season. Even so, he's clearly physically strong, a very good dribbler, and takes a mean setpiece.

Is he worth 60m? Of course not, but I've got a feeling he'll be a sleeper hit down that right flank. I mean imagine being harried by Mount, Kante, Gordon, and James down the right?!!! We may just see a few early retirements. 

Great positive vibes with this post  here! Thanks, haven‘t seen him play so no real clue but it sounds as if he could fit quite well together with James at the right side. Imagine Fofana behind and James could get all kind of action going on. 

3 minutes ago, weetee said:

Great positive vibes with this post  here! Thanks, haven‘t seen him play so no real clue but it sounds as if he could fit quite well together with James at the right side. Imagine Fofana behind and James could get all kind of action going on. 

Most welcome. It's always worthwhile to offer a balanced take and look at what the player actually offers in the context of their current team. Otherwise you'll just end up with a thread full of haters with bad takes - like with the Gabriel Jesus thread. 

Fofana-James combo could be great, his pace will allow James a bit more freedom down the right. 

28 minutes ago, venom2011 said:

Hopefully they're also realising that we cannot go into a season with Havertz, Mount, Sterling, Aubameyang, and 'Ol glass hamstrings. We've lost 3 attackers already - Lukaku, Werner, Ziyech and have brought in Sterling so far. 

I must say, I love a good punt. Gordon's defensive stats are mighty impressive. His attacking stats are heavily caveated by the fact that he plays for Everton who were horrendous last season. Even so, he's clearly physically strong, a very good dribbler, and takes a mean setpiece.

Is he worth 60m? Of course not, but I've got a feeling he'll be a sleeper hit down that right flank. I mean imagine being harried by Mount, Kante, Gordon, and James down the right?!!! We may just see a few early retirements. 

Nice post mate. Mind you we are all acting like Everton will accept a bid that has not even been tabled yet. 

We thought Leicester would too and they dismissed it in minutes for Fofana so is far from certain Everton will take the money.

7 minutes ago, venom2011 said:

I bet if a top team came in for Mason Mount, half their fanbase would say the same thing. And we know how moronic that would be. 

Its a reasonable comparison other than Mount has now developed some stock in trade through his England performances and has had some notable high points at club level including having a decent enough game in the CL final.

This guy even the Everton fans want this move to happen. There are plenty of articles surfacing now regarding the targets Lampard is going to spend the money on. This player has got absolutely nothing about him

And all for this runs around a lot., high energy. Let's save the £60m, hire a top qulity fitness coach on 100k a year and get all the fking players we already have fitter.

Spendign £60m on a kid on the basis that he runs a lot when we have blokes on the bench on 150k a week is fking criminal. If that is the atatraction of this player TT and his staff should be laying into the lazy fckers that we have here.

Even pundits on the tv are telling Frank to bite our hands off.

1 minute ago, WhiteWall said:

Its a reasonable comparison other than Mount has now developed some stock in trade through his England performances and has had some notable high points at club level including having a decent enough game in the CL final.

This guy even the Everton fans want this move to happen. There are plenty of articles surfacing now regarding the targets Lampard is going to spend the money on. This player has got absolutely nothing about him

And all for this runs around a lot., high energy. Let's save the £60m, hire a top qulity fitness coach on 100k a year and get all the fking players we already have fitter.

Spendign £60m on a kid on the basis that he runs a lot when we have blokes on the bench on 150k a week is fking criminal. If that is the atatraction of this player TT and his staff should be laying into the lazy fckers that we have here.

Even pundits on the tv are telling Frank to bite our hands off.

Frank does not make the call, Everton do, otherwise Richarlison would never have been sold.

3 minutes ago, venom2011 said:

Most welcome. It's always worthwhile to offer a balanced take and look at what the player actually offers in the context of their current team. Otherwise you'll just end up with a thread full of haters with bad takes - like with the Gabriel Jesus thread. 

Fofana-James combo could be great, his pace will allow James a bit more freedom down the right. 

What attributes would Gordon add to our team to warrant this fee, what does he offer in the Everton team that just escaped relegation last year and are nose diving there again this.  This is not rhetorical, i am genuinely puzzled.

Just now, axman2526 said:

Frank does not make the call, Everton do, otherwise Richarlison would never have been sold.

I know that, it was meant as a generalisation and presented as the image of the Everton hierarchy

Just now, WhiteWall said:

I know that, it was meant as a generalisation and presented as the image of the Everton hierarchy

Fair point. 

 

You know is quite funny that most on here did not want Richarlison for 60mill, thought he was way overpriced at that too.

So who gets the better 60mill Everton player guys and gals, us or Spurs lol

29 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

What attributes would Gordon add to our team to warrant this fee, what does he offer in the Everton team that just escaped relegation last year and are nose diving there again this.  This is not rhetorical, i am genuinely puzzled.

He can get past players, he has a certain agressive edge. He works hard and presses a lot. He is a bit unpredictable and he can add speed and speed up the game. 

Edited August 23, 20223 yr by azpi28

What's the betting Lamps, and BR, get asked more about Gordon and Fofana than about their games today?

And they reply with "no new news, our player, not for sale'.

The price is crazy - for sure. No arguments about him being significantly overpriced.

But.....

How many of us have slammed the team for our slow, stagnant attacking player, with players who either refuse, or are incapable of taking on a man?

Pulisic doesnt take anyone on. Ziyech doesnt have the pace, CHO has stopped taking people on ages ago and seems now to play with the handbreak on most of the time. Timo was never a winger and couldnt take anyone on. Kai cant, mase cant....etc

The only player we have at the moment is Sterling.

Gordon has the pace, and probably more importantly, the drive and always plays like he 'has the bit between his teeth'.  In short, he looks like he is a tryer and has a will to win and desire, which is something that feels lacking in a lot of our current players.

Again, overpriced at the money being talked about.....

But if it gets us a player who gives his all for the shirt, injects a bit of pace and urgency into our play, and importantly fights to win...then it could be a bargain. At worst we get another Timo, who tries hard but has no quality!

8 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

The price is crazy - for sure. No arguments about him being significantly overpriced.

But.....

How many of us have slammed the team for our slow, stagnant attacking player, with players who either refuse, or are incapable of taking on a man?

Pulisic doesnt take anyone on. Ziyech doesnt have the pace, CHO has stopped taking people on ages ago and seems now to play with the handbreak on most of the time. Timo was never a winger and couldnt take anyone on. Kai cant, mase cant....etc

The only player we have at the moment is Sterling.

Gordon has the pace, and probably more importantly, the drive and always plays like he 'has the bit between his teeth'.  In short, he looks like he is a tryer and has a will to win and desire, which is something that feels lacking in a lot of our current players.

Again, overpriced at the money being talked about.....

But if it gets us a player who gives his all for the shirt, injects a bit of pace and urgency into our play, and importantly fights to win...then it could be a bargain. At worst we get another Timo, who tries hard but has no quality!

He's a £60m Willian but he actually pressures better than Willian did. He might not be an amazing complete player at the moment but I think Tuchel thinks that he will have big impact on the way we want to play.

I can see teams avoiding play on his side as they don't want the fight which narrows the pitch, that alone is worth his presence but we'll see what happens.

1 hour ago, venom2011 said:

I bet if a top team came in for Mason Mount, half their fanbase would say the same thing. And we know how moronic that would be. 

Difference is a top team would put in a $30m bid for Mase which we'd probably accept!  I swear we're the only team that when wanting players from other teams they triple the market value of them plus demand our best youngsters in return but when teams want our players they want them for pittance.

28 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

What attributes would Gordon add to our team to warrant this fee, what does he offer in the Everton team that just escaped relegation last year and are nose diving there again this.  This is not rhetorical, i am genuinely puzzled.

I won't give you an answer in the context of the fee because that's somewhat irrelevant - as the correlation between fee and ability/output isn't great.

But along with what Axman has said above, I'll offer you this:

I tried to include players for comparison who fit roughly the same profile or position. If you look at his defensive contribution it's not just good as some here have insinuated, it's exceptional. He presses a ton, is very difficult to get past, and puts his foot in regularly. This is important for us because our chance creation comes from our intensity and pressure. We don't have incredible passers or visionaries to unlock defences - no Trent, Kane, Thiago, KDB, Bernardo Silva, Eriksen in our team. He actually matches up better with Kante and Gallagher which is saying something.

On top of that he's strong on the ball, dribbles very well with good control, he's quick, and his intensity is great here too. Obviously his output and on the ball stats are hamstrung by playing for Everton.

The club want him because this combination is rare in a player and it's a profile that suits our team perfectly for the aforementioned reasons. Provided we're not intent on relying on him for goals, I think it could be a sleeper hit. Though he's certainly not going to solve the rather pressing issue of goal contributions. 

 

1 hour ago, venom2011 said:

I bet if a top team came in for Mason Mount, half their fanbase would say the same thing. And we know how moronic that would be. 

Mason Mount?, the same Mason Mount who has a transfer value of £91m (Statista, 2022), first team regular for England, over a 100 games at the highest level for club and an assist-winner in a CL final?, that Mason Mount?

 

Mate, don’t make me laugh by comparing Gordon with him. Gordon ran around for 50 games in an Everton shirt, showed a lot of ‘effort’ and could press, now he’s worth £60m with despite having no end product  😅🤦‍♂️ money laundering.. simple & plain. 

Edited August 23, 20223 yr by Term_X

52 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

What's the betting Lamps, and BR, get asked more about Gordon and Fofana than about their games today?

And they reply with "no new news, our player, not for sale'.

Basically right, taken from Sky sports:

"

Speaking after the game, Lampard told reporters: "Everyone knows there's interest from Chelsea but he's our player, simple as that."

When asked if reports suggesting Gordon has asked to leave Goodison Park were true, Lampard said: " I'm never going go into conversations between me and Anthony have. We've got a good relationship I won't even go there."

38 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Gordon has the pace, and probably more importantly, the drive and always plays like he 'has the bit between his teeth'.  In short, he looks like he is a tryer and has a will to win and desire, which is something that feels lacking in a lot of our current players.

Well you just wait till he becomes a part of Tuchel's team and Tuchel applies the master brakes. 

Tuchel at this point to me seems like a self saboteur because a smart man that has made it to the pinaccle of football management, cannot deny that he doesn't see all the issues we mere armchair fans can. 

This is his 3rd season and his second full season.  Happy to give till the end of this season no matter what happens.  However I must emphasise, its not about the result.  Its about what the team's performance and output is. 

We saw the spurs game where we dropped 2 points and everyone applauded the team for tactics and application.  It's not just about winning.  Sarri won games but people weren't pleased with the spectacle.  He needs to show he is making the right tactical choices and letting the players individual brilliance shine through. 

He can get it wrong sometimes because we all make mistakes but recently it's almost as though it's more wrong than right. 

Like someone said 5 wins in 14 games. That is atrocious for any team trying to be part of the conversation of becoming champions. 

And even more worrying is his transfer activity or interests which, to put it mildly, are simply uninspiring.