No effort football is ingrained in the players mentality.

they all need a lobotomy pronto

19 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

You can't blame the team and then go and pretend Mount isn't one of the problems. 

I've been a fan of Mount since the Youth Cup days and I've far from given up on him but whenever I see "apart from Mount" on the criticism of the attack like he's Hazard level i have to laugh. 

Edited November 6, 20223 yr by Argo

Just now, Argo said:

I've been a fan of Mount since the youth Cup days and I've far from given up on him but whenever I see "apart from Mount" on the criticism of the attack like he's Hazard level i have to laugh. 

Or being constantly moved positionally affects his game.

Have we brought over Potter's old recruitment team from Brighton recently ?

They've brought in good players for next to nothing.

2 minutes ago, Wearyourcolours said:

Or being constantly moved positionally affects his game.

I don't think that's true but feel free to correct me. Isn't he typically played as a roaming attacking mid/forward under Potter?

 

1 minute ago, Deino said:

I don't think that's true but feel free to correct me. Isn't he typically played as a roaming attacking mid/forward under Potter?

 

So far I think he’s played in 3 positions under GP, left attack, left sided mid & centre mid. That’s not taking into account all the tactical shifts in games.

Take into account that he’s also covering for the deficiencies in the other midfielders in the team, if the team is playing badly it is harder to shine.

7 minutes ago, Wearyourcolours said:

Or being constantly moved positionally affects his game.

I'd argue that applies far more to Sterling than Mount. 5 G/A in 7 games under Tuchel, since Potter came in and moved him to LWB he's been awful.

6 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

So you're saying we would have given Klopp the 3/4 seasons it took for them to become contenders? Absolute bollocks, we've sacked managers who won the league the season before, let alone someone from the bundesliga who had his team celebrating a 2-2 draw against West Brom.

If all we had won in ten years is a League Cup and only qualified for the Champions League once since 2009, then yes, the fans would have given a multi title winning manager time. Also, it's not like Liverpool even took that long to compete again. They finished 8th in the League, but got to the League Cup and Europa League final. Next season they finished 4th. Season after that, they finished 4th again and got to the Champions League final. Next season they won the Champions League and finished 2nd in the league. Season after that they won the League. They were competing again the same season Klopp arrived, so it's a poor comparison really.

This guy is sucking the life out of the club and the fans with his poor  management  and post / pre match interviews For a man who has a masters degree in leadership and emotional intelligence plus social science he is turning out to be pretty much way out of he's depth in the real world

Everybody in football knew we would lose today, I’m usually optimistic in predicting our results  but I went 1-2 to them, so just losing by the corner goal was not as bad. The players available now (Its sad team’s performance depends to a great extent on Reece and to a lesser extent Chilly) are largely not good enough or not trying - same outcome though. GP like the managers before him tends to pick who he perceives to be older, more experienced and in theory better options. Only player that fits that bill in our squad is Silva. The squad is the problem due to Marinas many recent poor windows and Todd’s one poor window. I’d say even Pep would struggle to get results with our squad. Until that’s fixed GP or whomever replaces him sooner or later will be challenged delivering consistency. Think Bully will back GP unless we slid down to 16th or thereabouts. So suck it up let’s get through 2 more likely losses and enjoy Gareth cocking up the World Cup in true English fashion. 

3 minutes ago, Blue72 said:

 For a man who has a masters degree in leadership and emotional intelligence plus social science he is turning out to be pretty much way out of he's depth in the real world

To be very honest, outside of STEM/ Healthcare/Law, having a Masters degree doesn't really apply that well into the real world. 

52 minutes ago, Jezq8 said:

I think it’s down to the fact that potter hasn’t got anything on his CV to show he can deliver at the top. which probably makes fans more skeptical.

 

We have also been a genuine disaster since he came in. No new manager at the club have ever looked this bad to start his tenure. And God knows we have had many managers who had to deal with lacking squad. Including the one we recently sacked.

We are usually a pretty patient fanbase but there is a smell of incompetence from Potter in my opinion. And I think many are sniffing that out. Been here two months and we had literally had one decent game in the league and we are now on one of those long winless streaks the man was known for at Brighton. He's now brought that over to this club. Worst part is that we play with no energy and the manager seem to be clueless to how he wants us to play. 

And that's whats worrying me the most. He quite simply looks way out of his depth.

Journos, pundits and supporters all bring up the fact that the players don't know what they are doing out there. And it's quite obvious that they don't and that's entirely down to the manager.

Edited November 6, 20223 yr by Droy

4 minutes ago, Deino said:

To be very honest, outside of STEM/ Healthcare/Law, having a Masters degree doesn't really apply that well into the real world. 

Graham Potter has a Masters from the Open University, which is an online school, not even ranked.. and there is no requirement for acceptance. He was also awarded an ‘honorary’ doctorate from Mid Sweden University who are ranked 1,781 in the world 😅. 

Masters degrees from the top institutions are usually fruitful, high ranked Russel Group, usually have strong links to employers/grad schemes, even outside of STEM etc. 

11 minutes ago, Deino said:

To be very honest, outside of STEM/ Healthcare/Law, having a Masters degree doesn't really apply that well into the real world. 

He should a least have the ability to communicate well especially in interviews If this is the way he's coming across to his players in training sessions  no wonder they look  and perform like the couldn't give a monkeys

5 minutes ago, Term_X said:

Graham Potter has a Masters from the Open University, which is an online school, not even ranked.. and there is no requirement for acceptance. He was also awarded an ‘honorary’ doctorate from Mid Sweden University who are ranked 1,781 in the world 😅. 

Masters degrees from the top institutions are usually fruitful, high ranked Russel Group, usually have strong links to employers/grad schemes, even outside of STEM etc. 

This makes more sense 

1 hour ago, Deino said:

I disagree. We actually have a decent system going for us. We have owners that are ambitious, willing to spend but a bit green in football management, some players that are winners just jaded/lacked belief/not utilized properly, a thriving academy and a solid fanbase.

Things can turn around very well once the manager gets his sh*t together. What we are lacking right now is superior tactical identity, match preparedness, formation organization and motivation. All things that are in control of the coaching team and head coach. If Potter can't deliver all that just because he doesn't have the right players then he's out of his depth

I very much hope you’re right. 

28 minutes ago, Term_X said:

Graham Potter has a Masters from the Open University, which is an online school, not even ranked.. and there is no requirement for acceptance. He was also awarded an ‘honorary’ doctorate from Mid Sweden University who are ranked 1,781 in the world 😅. 

Masters degrees from the top institutions are usually fruitful, high ranked Russel Group, usually have strong links to employers/grad schemes, even outside of STEM etc. 

I find it weird you’re sh*tting on someone gaining some qualifications later in life because it’s not from what you consider a top institution

Edited November 6, 20223 yr by Blueboys

I know with his diplomas in workplace bonding, emotions and feelings he likely "doesn't believe" in testicles, but if he can't get this team to start showing some I hope he's axed pretty quick.

His "Titanic" comment the other day was pathetic. If it's that bad f**k off back to your canoe that few would even notice if it's sinking then!

Ah well. I've just seen something that's cheered me up no end. Liverpool's second goal against Tottenham and Eric Dire's wonderful Mr. Bean assist.

Bring on the World Cup and the McGuire & Dire show. We all need some comedy relief right now.

1 hour ago, Scott Harris said:

If all we had won in ten years is a League Cup and only qualified for the Champions League once since 2009, then yes, the fans would have given a multi title winning manager time. Also, it's not like Liverpool even took that long to compete again. They finished 8th in the League, but got to the League Cup and Europa League final. Next season they finished 4th. Season after that, they finished 4th again and got to the Champions League final. Next season they won the Champions League and finished 2nd in the league. Season after that they won the League. They were competing again the same season Klopp arrived, so it's a poor comparison really.

I'm not comparing anything, my point is that if Klopp came in and didn't gain instant success a lot of fans would have turned on him because as a collective Chelsea fans don't have the patience for a long term plan, as seen numerous times over the years.

44 minutes ago, Term_X said:

Graham Potter has a Masters from the Open University, which is an online school, not even ranked.. and there is no requirement for acceptance. He was also awarded an ‘honorary’ doctorate from Mid Sweden University who are ranked 1,781 in the world 😅. 

Masters degrees from the top institutions are usually fruitful, high ranked Russel Group, usually have strong links to employers/grad schemes, even outside of STEM etc. 

The OU  is a University . It ranks amongst the highest of universities.

It's degrees are accredited and employers recognise that students have to be organised and self motivated to work on their degrees.

Degrees.

It's definitely an achievement to get an degree whilst work or raising a family

3 minutes ago, Blueboys said:

I find it weird you’re sh*tting on someone gaining some qualifications later in life because it’s not from what you consider a top institution

You know what, fair enough. My previous remark was a disservice actually, as retirement at 30 for him would have been daunting and needed to find a way to make a comeback in his life and with the doors closed at higher institutions - that was the only way in. 

Albeit I do resent the idea of “honorary” degrees (most examples anyway), as it’s an insult to people who did the work.

 

Can fulham beat United at home next week? If they can we may go in to the world cup break in a deserved 10th spot.

45 minutes ago, Blueboys said:

I find it weird you’re sh*tting on someone gaining some qualifications later in life because it’s not from what you consider a top institution

And what has this got to do with getting 11blokes to kick a ball into a net

2 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

The OU  is a University . It ranks amongst the highest of universities.

It's degrees are accredited and employers recognise that students have to be organised and self motivated to work on their degrees.

Degrees.

It's definitely an achievement to get an degree whilst work or raising a family

It wasn’t ranked the last time I checked but it seems to have gone up to 500th out of 1,662, so certainly not ‘amongst the highest’ as you describe but again.. fair enough. It is ranked with an asterisk in different formatting WUR on the QS leaderboard though.

Also, for the record.. a lot of people work-full time during uni and postgrad degrees, this is not something exclusive to The Open University, I should know.