1 minute ago, dansubrosa said:

The owners need to spend big this month on a midfielder. We’ve lost Zakaria for god knows how long, and we can’t really rely on Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante.

Just drop 120m on Enzo. He’d revitalise the attack, especially Havertz.

Overstated. We finished top 4 ever since we have had Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante. Tonight we actually could see how much of a difference it is to have a real attacker in Felix, without him we look average.

2 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

The owners need to spend big this month on a midfielder. We’ve lost Zakaria for god knows how long, and we can’t really rely on Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante.

Just drop 120m on Enzo. He’d revitalise the attack, especially Havertz.

Nothing saving Havertz at this rate. 

3 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Unfortunately this is looking likely to be true now. 

I think aside from a very small minority (Pulisic and one or two others), most of the squad didn't want Tuchel sacked. So Potter coming in already had an uphill battle to win over the dressing room, particularly with his lack of qualifications. Now that we're in horrible form, and tactially we look far poorer, I think he's lost the majority of the dressing room. I could genuinely see us finishing in the bottom half this year if he stays on.

The tuchel sacking is looking more and more stupid by the day 

the injuries we are getting from non contact situations are very worrying. 
to have this amount of players out well I think any manager would struggle 

3 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

The owners need to spend big this month on a midfielder. We’ve lost Zakaria for god knows how long, and we can’t really rely on Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante.

Just drop 120m on Enzo. He’d revitalise the attack, especially Havertz.

But we have a manager that would play him at wing back? 

1 minute ago, Drogba1 said:

I think aside from a very small minority (Pulisic and one or two others), most of the squad didn't want Tuchel sacked. So Potter coming in already had an uphill battle to win over the dressing room, particularly with his lack of qualifications. Now that we're in horrible form, and tactially we look far poorer, I think he's lost the majority of the dressing room. I could genuinely see us finishing in the bottom half this year if he stays on.

Change half to quarter and I’m being serious. Anyone will beat us right now, anyone. 

It can be long term as much as you want but if you are not getting a basic level of performance out of your players then they are simply not playing for you or they just have no idea what you want to achieve.

Compare him to Arteta, you saw something was building with Arsenal throughout the poor results. I dont see anything right now, I guess the injuries are a major problem for him but that starting 11 under Tuchel would compete with most teams.

Tbh the whole entire transfer looks childish at best. Boehly just doesn’t know football 

Getting dragged into relegation is not out of the question. How many teams in the bottom do we believe we could beat?

It's been a job in hell for Potter, both in terms of results and the amount of stress on him. Looking at him on the sideline, clearly a man with lots of stress and frustrations. Sack or back him looks equally bad right now. Ideally we make it to the end of the season without many more of this type of embarassment, and both sides reach an agreement for a mutual termination.

1 minute ago, Andy2461 said:

Tbh the whole entire transfer looks childish at best. Boehly just doesn’t know football 

So he needs to listen to people that do, and he clearly isn’t. 

6 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

The owners need to spend big this month on a midfielder. We’ve lost Zakaria for god knows how long, and we can’t really rely on Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante.

Just drop 120m on Enzo. He’d revitalise the attack, especially Havertz.

I Disagree, backing Potter with a big money signing is the last thing we should do. unless we seriously flirt with relegation the next few months will likely be about making sure we have the right man in charge for the summer. A big money Potter signing which the next manager doesn't want is a repeat of the mistakes we've made year after year and how we've ended up with a squad like this this.

Potter doesn't have the resume or the job security to be backed this window, give him another loan but he's shown nothing to suggest we should be spending money on his targets

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Chelsea manager Graham Potter speaking to BT Sport: "I think we controlled the game early won the ball back high created some opportunities maybe missed the last pass. We made a couple of mistakes for their goal.

Second-half I think we responded well and then the red card changes the game. Makes it a little more difficult for us, I thought the application when we went down to 10 was really good.

"Disappointed with the goal because I think we could do better and that is what cost us.

On Joao Felix's red card: "It was a forwards tackle, there was no malice in it but I understand why it was a red. it is another blow the hits keep coming at the moment. he was really good you could see his quality in the game so it is doubly disappointing for us."

On how they can recover: "We have got to keep working there is no other solutions, you have to keep working stay together and try to get the three points."

 

2 minutes ago, SimonH said:

So he needs to listen to people that do, and he clearly isn’t. 

Neither is Potter judging by his selections…

3 minutes ago, Sheva said:

Compare him to Arteta, you saw something was building with Arsenal throughout the poor results.

I disagree, Arsenal looked absolutely shocking and he was so close to being sacked. I honestly believe he was one game away from getting sacked… Of course we saved him, who else could it be!

Just now, Zeta said:

 

I wonder what his pressers are going to be like when we are 17th and battling relegation. 

2 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Neither is Potter judging by his selections…

Indeed 

1 minute ago, Zeta said:

 

0 passion about the club. Tuchel from the very start wanted to win everything, might've been from Germany but he was Chelsea through and through.

20 minutes ago, Sheva said:

Compare him to Arteta, you saw something was building with Arsenal throughout the poor results.

Sorry but that is totally rewritting history even accounting for the cup win.

They were 16th at this stage of his first full season with something like 4 goals in 9 games.

Edited January 12, 20233 yr by Argo

Just now, Argo said:

Sorry but that is totally rewrittint history even accounting for the cup win.

They were 16th at this stage of his first full season with something like 2 goals in 9 games.

One of the obvious games you could tell there was an idea was when they came up against Oles Utd who looked similar to what we seeing with us. A team that are trying to do what the manager wants them to do vs a bunch of players who don't seem motivated.

Im not saying Arteta is the second coming but I could see what he was trying to do. I dont see that with Potter.

1 minute ago, Sheva said:

One of the obvious games you could tell there was an idea was when they came up against Oles Utd who looked similar to what we seeing with us. A team that are trying to do what the manager wants them to do vs a bunch of players who don't seem motivated.

Im not saying Arteta is the second coming but I could see what he was trying to do. I dont see that with Potter.

On the same token you could then use the Milan games for Potter.

One swallow doesn't make a summer, most of the time they were playing like a glorified version of Pulis' Stoke, so much so Arteta was starting to be called the Spanish Pulis.

I said we needed a 2 month unbeaten streak to claw back to upper half of the table and people said "There's no way we'd lose to Fulham"

If Potter can't turn this downward spiral around, well, we probably have to start thinking how to avoid relegation

2 minutes ago, Argo said:

Arteta was starting to be called the Spanish Pulis.

That's a fair point.

But the fact that Pulis unironically achieved far more as a manager than Graham Potter has just makes it even more painful.

Pulis at Stoke had better results and higher finishes with a lower Budget than Potter at Brighton.

Edited January 12, 20233 yr by TimesUpPotter

8 minutes ago, Deino said:

I said we needed a 2 month unbeaten streak to claw back to upper half of the table and people said "There's no way we'd lose to Fulham"

If Potter can't turn this downward spiral around, well, we probably have to start thinking how to avoid relegation

I said that I can't see us winning against Fulham at all. We simply don't know how to score goals.

The goal we scored was some random deflection anyway and Koulibably out of all people does comfirm it's just a lucky goal and not some amazing tactic nor good coaching.

Now the one bright light in attack, Felix won't even feature for some matches so who is that player that can draw fouls and yellow cards and shoot more often? We don't have such a player to step in and Potter doesn't know how to attack so there won't be some epic coaching involved.

We are in fact fighting to avoid relegation, specially if James and Zakaria can't play either.

Edited January 12, 20233 yr by Gol15

2 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

I said that I can't see us winning against Fulham at all. We simply don't know how to score goals.

The goal we scored was some random deflection anyway and Koulibably out of all people does comfirm it's just a lucky goal and not some amazing tactic nor good coaching.

Now the one bright light in attack, Felix won't even feature for some matches so who is that player that can draw fouls and yellow cards and shoot more often? We don't have such a player to step in and Potter doesn't know how to attack so there won't be some epic coaching involved.

We are in fact fighting to avoid relegation, specially if James and Zakaria can't play either.

yep. We are f*cked. 2 year project to the top became a 2 year project avoiding relegation. 

Jeez

I just miss the time when our biggest problem was that we had a manager that "hated" Gilmour and Hudson Odoi.

Doesn't seem so bad now does it.