29 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Every other manager since Conte managed to finish top 4 and to secure a healthy revenue.

The club loses more by keeping Potter as every day passes by, the players are also wasting their potential and some that are younger are developing bad habits as well. There is not a single argument as to why the club should stick with Potter, cut the losses as soon as possible and move on, he is the worst manager we have ever had.

My concern is, as I have mentioned before, every player he works with here seems to deteriorate under him, possibly with one or two exceptions. I thought the reason he was signed was because of his ability to work with players and improve them and the team. Seen none of that, in fact big money players look more and more average with each passing week

Edited April 2, 20233 yr by WhiteWall

Abysmal manager. 

We need to end this now, it's not improving

12 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

Abysmal manager. 

We need to end this now, it's not improving

I was going to compare Potter's tenure to that of David Moyes poor time at Man Utd for 10 months. But looking at it Moyes had a 51% win rate and wasn't good enough for them. Potter at 38% has some distance to go to be as poor as Moyes was.

Everyone is so impatient these days. What part of long term rebuild/project don't people get?

 

 

how is this comment xenophobic? he’s just describing a cultural element of American business attitudes … look at the banking crash if you want evidence of this .  I don’t want to see the team lose and am now dreading taking my son to the Brighton game on the 15th if this misfit manager is still there, but if it takes a likely loss to LFC on Tuesday to oust Potter then so be it…….. @ mod can we screen for over sensitive woke leaning subscribers 

Just now, nonotnowjim said:

Everyone is so impatient these days. What part of long term rebuild/project don't people get?

 

The possible flirting with relegation, financial meltdown and the necessity of selling the only players with real value due to the incompetence of those running the club.

2 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Call yourself a fan? Wanting us beaten by Liverpool 3v0 is f**king pathetic. Get a grip.

oh, and "arrogant american fashion" ???  Why are xenophobic pricks like you on here? 

@Mod Can't we get rid of "fans" like this who want us to lose and make sweeping statements that are xenophobic?

 

Edited April 2, 20233 yr by MGPimlico

2 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Call yourself a fan? Wanting us beaten by Liverpool 3v0 is f**king pathetic. Get a grip.

oh, and "arrogant american fashion" ???  Why are xenophobic pricks like you on here? 

@Mod Can't we get rid of "fans" like this who want us to lose and make sweeping statements that are xenophobic?

how is this comment xenophobic? he’s just describing a cultural element of American business attitudes … look at the banking crash if you want evidence of this .  I don’t want to see the team lose and am now dreading taking my son to the Brighton game on the 15th if this misfit manager is still there, but if it takes a likely loss to LFC on Tuesday to oust Potter then so be it…….. @ mod can we screen for over sensitive woke leaning subscribers 

3 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Everyone is so impatient these days. What part of long term rebuild/project don't people get?

 

The part where there is no interim improvement or sign of improvement

Potter is the victim of his mediocrity and lack of common sense.  The only decent and very useful thing for all Potter can do is to resign. Just to concede that he bit more than he could chew. His resignation would make things so much easy for everyone,  including Potters deteriorating mental health, but his greed holds out for a disgraceful kick up the arse in exchange of a massive payout. Resign and walk out with your head high up, or continue to humiliate yourself and all people around you and be remembered as the most ridiculed and despised manager of this club.

12 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Said it on the match thread, and will repeat it here - for all the arguments of systems, selections, and tactics, we were beaten today for 2 reasons. 1) a horrendous error by a £60m defender.  2) Our players have a seizure every time they get to shoot - with Mudryk being particularly guilty.

Any manager in the world could who could have sat in the dugout today wouldn't have changed that.

For what it's worth, I thought we played pretty well going forward in the first half and should have scored at least 3 goals during the game (Mudryk should have passed to kai for a tap-in, Mudryk should have scored when through on goal, and Felix should have picked out Mudryk for an easy goal when 3 on 2). 

But alas, the negatives continue to outweigh the positives. Main ones being:

- Reece should be RWB i.e his position - stop f**king around with stupid experiments and putting square pegs in round holes.

- K2 is a disaster - inspires no confidence.

- Brain fart from Cucu. Cost us dearly.

- Too many players look lightweight losers (no winning mentality). Kai, Felix, Mudryk, Madueke, Gallagher, K2, RLC all do not ever seem like winners to me. Only Chilly, Enzo and James really have that look - and even James I am concerned about. The same is true for Potter who for me doesnt have the "look or feel' of a winner.

- Felix, as good as he is on the ball, holds on to it too long.

- Mudryk and Madueke - aside from not looking like that have a winning mentality, also simply do not look good enough.

- Why do none of our shots have power? they are all weak as f**k.

- Uninspiring post match interview from Potter. Bland regurgitated rubbish. He needs to put a rocket up some arses, but instead we get the "really organised, we created some chances, disappointing to lose' shtick.  Loser talk.

 

Positives:

- We are creating chances again. For months under TT we hardly created anything - 1 or 2 shots per game. Now we are actually creating - we just can't shoot.

- Kante returns

- Enzo still best player.

 

I agree with a lot of this, but……

What the hell was that back line selection? It invited mistakes & stifled our attacking options.

Be honest, did you see the line up and feel confident of victory?

I commend your loyalty to Potter, but deep down you must realise his position is untenable?

32 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Everyone is so impatient these days. What part of long term rebuild/project don't people get?

 

A long term project only works if there are incremental progress. 9 months in, Potter has us at 11th and knocked out of most cups bar 1. Still chopping and changing and still making confusing substitutions.

One of the example being Badiashile has not put a foot wrong so far and is now benched for Cucurella. 

Why on earth is Cucurella playing as a CB.   He played a few games at CB when Brighton had injuries but in general was outstanding as an attacking FB. Why with squad we have and spending £600k why do we need to play him out of position, Just seems because we paid £60m for him he has to find a place

So many people talking about Potter being mediocre is a bit ridiculous. He obviously isn't a bad manager, just maybe come into a club like Chelsea at a bad time. Again, 30+ players in the squad, coming in without pre-season, constant injuries to key players throughout the season so no settled side etc, it's not an ideal time to have come into a club like chelsea at the best of times, let alone with all the upheaval of the club the past 8 months or so.

I don't think many managers, regardless of their success, would have done that much better tbh. It's a bit different since January as we did strengthen a fair bit so we needed to see more improvement than we have, but we've also had injuries throughout the season. Missing Kante was big for us this season and he hasn't played at all under Potter this season until yesterday.

I know it's easy to put all the blame on the coach, but it's not simple when going through situations. People will point to the likes of De Zerbi or Brentford, Fulham etc, but they have zero pressure on them to succeed, we do as a big club. Arsenal are the same this season, zero pressure to achieve what they have, it helps massively. But again, I think he's a decent manager just come at the wrong time. Maybe there would never have been a good time for him to coach us, but I don't agree that he's all of a sudden a poor coach because of this season. 

Look at our CL campaign. Tuchel started off poorly in the CL, Potter came in and we went on an undefeated run, beating AC Milan (who are now quarter finalists) twice and making it look pretty easy. Going down at Dortmund at then beating Dortmund to advance in the next leg. If people are going to criticise the negatives about his coaching, at least give him credit for the positives we have had this season. 

Edited April 2, 20233 yr by enigma

The irony of someone taking umbrage at a fan saying happy for Chelsea to lose if it means the man primarily responsible, who the buck stops with for those losses, gets the heave ho. 

When umbrage taker is fan no 1 of the man responsible for the most woeful performances of Chelsea in over 2 decades. Are they not both same thing? One happy for the team to lose, the other happy for the team to continue under direction of manager who in his most excellent of performances will lose more than he wins. 

No, your point of view is no more valid than the other even though you want to drape it in full honour and virtue regalia. 

11 minutes ago, enigma said:

So many people talking about Potter being mediocre is a bit ridiculous. He obviously isn't a bad manager, just maybe come into a club like Chelsea at a bad time. Again, 30+ players in the squad, coming in without pre-season, constant injuries to key players throughout the season so no settled side etc, it's not an ideal time to have come into a club like chelsea at the best of times, let alone with all the upheaval of the club the past 8 months or so.

I don't think many managers, regardless of their success, would have done that much better tbh. It's a bit different since January as we did strengthen a fair bit so we needed to see more improvement than we have, but we've also had injuries throughout the season. Missing Kante was big for us this season and he hasn't played at all under Potter this season until yesterday.

I know it's easy to put all the blame on the coach, but it's not simple when going through situations. People will point to the likes of De Zerbi or Brentford, Fulham etc, but they have zero pressure on them to succeed, we do as a big club. Arsenal are the same this season, zero pressure to achieve what they have, it helps massively. But again, I think he's a decent manager just come at the wrong time. Maybe there would never have been a good time for him to coach us, but I don't agree that he's all of a sudden a poor coach because of this season. 

Look at our CL campaign. Tuchel started off poorly in the CL, Potter came in and we went on an undefeated run, beating AC Milan (who are now quarter finalists) twice and making it look pretty easy. Going down at Dortmund at then beating Dortmund to advance in the next leg. If people are going to criticise the negatives about his coaching, at least give him credit for the positives we have had this season. 

Not buying that.

I'd wager most top ranked managers would have us playing better and not dropping points left right and centre.

This has been the worst tenure of any manager in my lifetime.

Give Potter a littlebit more time and we'll have to stomach both Mount & Gallagher rocking up at Anfield in red next season. Anyone defending this pathetic "rebuild" should be well aware of that, it's actually probably too late but we are absolutely ripping apart the good work Lampard started and Tuchel continued with academy lads coming through. And for what purpose? We are about to sacrifice just about everything on Potters altar and it's going to go so, so wrong.

 

54 minutes ago, OneTommyLangley said:

The part where there is no interim improvement or sign of improvement

You not been watching the performances? the creating multiple opportunities? the uptick in attacking football?

All huge signs of improvement on what we were seeing at the end of tuchels reign.

not yet translating into consistent wins....but again...long term. 

There has been a lot of positive indicators.

6 minutes ago, abister1 said:

The irony of someone taking umbrage at a fan saying happy for Chelsea to lose if it means the man primarily responsible, who the buck stops with for those losses, gets the heave ho. 

When umbrage taker is fan no 1 of the man responsible for the most woeful performances of Chelsea in over 2 decades. Are they not both same thing? One happy for the team to lose, the other happy for the team to continue under direction of manager who in his most excellent of performances will lose more than he wins. 

No, your point of view is no more valid than the other even though you want to drape it in full honour and virtue regalia. 

I am not a fan of Potter. Go back and read my posts. Consistently said I have huge concerns.  He has been rubbish.

That doesn't change the fact that we are going through a reset. And the short term thinking on here is ridiculous and wishing us to lose is disgusting.

6 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Give Potter a littlebit more time and we'll have to stomach both Mount & Gallagher rocking up at Anfield in red next season. Anyone defending this pathetic "rebuild" should be well aware of that, it's actually probably too late but we are absolutely ripping apart the good work Lampard started and Tuchel continued with academy lads coming through. And for what purpose? We are about to sacrifice just about everything on Potters altar and it's going to go so, so wrong.

 

At the risk of being called a xenophobe, we are doing it to satisfy the arrogance of our American billionaire owner. 

Go ask me to be kicked off as well. Thanks. 

1 minute ago, nonotnowjim said:

I am not a fan of Potter. Go back and read my posts. Consistently said I have huge concerns.  He has been rubbish.

That doesn't change the fact that we are going through a reset. And the short term thinking on here is ridiculous and wishing us to lose is disgusting.

I read your posts consistently and they do sound like they are written by the man himself so forgive me for thinking you're no fan of his. 

This is breaking news to me I must confess. 

20 minutes ago, enigma said:

So many people talking about Potter being mediocre is a bit ridiculous. He obviously isn't a bad manager, just maybe come into a club like Chelsea at a bad time. Again, 30+ players in the squad, coming in without pre-season, constant injuries to key players throughout the season so no settled side etc, it's not an ideal time to have come into a club like chelsea at the best of times, let alone with all the upheaval of the club the past 8 months or so.

I don't think many managers, regardless of their success, would have done that much better tbh. It's a bit different since January as we did strengthen a fair bit so we needed to see more improvement than we have, but we've also had injuries throughout the season. Missing Kante was big for us this season and he hasn't played at all under Potter this season until yesterday.

I know it's easy to put all the blame on the coach, but it's not simple when going through situations. People will point to the likes of De Zerbi or Brentford, Fulham etc, but they have zero pressure on them to succeed, we do as a big club. Arsenal are the same this season, zero pressure to achieve what they have, it helps massively. But again, I think he's a decent manager just come at the wrong time. Maybe there would never have been a good time for him to coach us, but I don't agree that he's all of a sudden a poor coach because of this season. 

Look at our CL campaign. Tuchel started off poorly in the CL, Potter came in and we went on an undefeated run, beating AC Milan (who are now quarter finalists) twice and making it look pretty easy. Going down at Dortmund at then beating Dortmund to advance in the next leg. If people are going to criticise the negatives about his coaching, at least give him credit for the positives we have had this season. 

Yes we beat Dortmund. Amazing!

Other than that, everything about Potter is a negative. Chilwell ended the last game playing CB, speaks volumes how Potter is so inept as a coach.

31 minutes ago, Wearyourcolours said:

I agree with a lot of this, but……

What the hell was that back line selection? It invited mistakes & stifled our attacking options.

Be honest, did you see the line up and feel confident of victory?

I commend your loyalty to Potter, but deep down you must realise his position is untenable?

I am not loyal to potter.  I do however back the need for a hard reset of the team. 

Dont agree that the selection stifled out attack. We had over 25 shots.l, including 2x 1 on 1s

Dont agree that it invites mistakes either. James played rcb under tuchel (even though i prefer him at rb) l, and cucu had his best game for us at lcb 2 or 3 games ago where he won motm. It wasn't the selection that drove him to the sh*t header backwards.

3 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

All huge signs of improvement on what we were seeing at the end of tuchels reign.

Of course you think that when you genuinely thought we had one or two shots a game for several months under him. But then a guy thankfully responded with the factual truth and you were of course way off.

You looked at Tuchel in the most negative way possible but at Potter with the biggest rose tinted glasses in the world. There isn't improvement in any way shape or form. We create some decent chances offensively simply because we have some top class players there now in Enzo & Felix but there is still no structure to us, there is still no coherent pressing, there are still no goals, and there is still a pathetic mentality from the manager every single time he opens his mouth. Mr.Excuses is what he should be called and you may be the only supporters left who's bought what he's selling.

5 minutes ago, abister1 said:

At the risk of being called a xenophobe, we are doing it to satisfy the arrogance of our American billionaire owner. 

Go ask me to be kicked off as well. Thanks. 

@Mod

You are welcome. 

Now on ignore. Twat