1 minute ago, enigma said:

Conte is a world class manager, yet he has that Tottenham team looking toothless despite this being his second season there.

There are fans on Potter's csse after a few months here for not magically having us competing after all the turmoil we've gone through and constant injuries since the beginning of the season.

So many people have zero patience. Without patience how do we ever build a project? Fans have gotten used to the fire and hire method by Roman and occasional trophy win. 

Where was that patience for Tuchel? We were above Liverpool when he was sacked, now they've overtaken us.

1 minute ago, enigma said:

Conte is a world class manager, yet he has that Tottenham team looking toothless despite this being his second season there.

There are fans on Potter's csse after a few months here for not magically having us competing after all the turmoil we've gone through and constant injuries since the beginning of the season.

So many people have zero patience. Without patience how do we ever build a project? Fans have gotten used to the fire and hire method by Roman and occasional trophy win. 

Tottenham haven't spent half of what we have this year. Conte also took over a side in the Europa League, not a side that had finished top 4 2 seasons in a row and had been in 5 Cup finals over the past 18 months.

 

We're not Tottenham, our expectations shouldn't be the same as theirs. Even then, Tottenham are still ahead of us.

Does anyone think that Potter has us winning the league within the length of his contract?

If the answer is no, then what’s the point?

2 minutes ago, Wearyourcolours said:

Does anyone think that Potter has us winning the league within the length of his contract?

If the answer is no, then what’s the point?

I'm not sure we even get top 4 if he's allowed to stay on for years. Newcastle United Arsenal Liverpool and City will be miles ahead of us.

A hot bath, a mug of hot chocolate, and a Chelsea game, sure fire remedy for insomnia.

Really bad, those two words describe the situation.

Really bad results, really bad fotball. Whats even worse though is that there is no identity to our football. 

Sometimes we press put not convincingly.
Sometimes we sit deep without looking solid that way either.
Sometimes we look to move the ball fast, most of the team we are slow with it (never seen us slower than we were today).

And so on. Players are a part of the problem but identity and a style of play should be in play regardless of the players. Klopp had a bunch of mediocre players to begin with at Liverpool but they showed what they wanted to do from the moment he came to Liverpool.

Potter shouldn't be sacked but he needs to start to show something.

 

19 minutes ago, enigma said:

Conte is a world class manager, yet he has that Tottenham team looking toothless despite this being his second season there.

There are fans on Potter's csse after a few months here for not magically having us competing after all the turmoil we've gone through and constant injuries since the beginning of the season.

So many people have zero patience. Without patience how do we ever build a project? Fans have gotten used to the fire and hire method by Roman and occasional trophy win. 

We have a sh*t squad. People go on about tuchel winning the champs league but we had Kante then and haven't signed anyone decent since. 

Potter needs time but more importantly the squad needs an overhaul that it's getting. I'm not even going to think about Potter until this time next year. 

I still think we made a huge mistake sacking Tuchel. Imo he was the answer to catching up to City and Liverpool when they were dominating… Now we have Potter who hasn’t f*cking achieved anything, only pretty football which Arsenal did for so many years and they’ve won f*ck all. What have we become?

His opening line shows his level!

20 minutes ago, enigma said:

Conte is a world class manager, yet he has that Tottenham team looking toothless despite this being his second season there.

There are fans on Potter's csse after a few months here for not magically having us competing after all the turmoil we've gone through and constant injuries since the beginning of the season.

So many people have zero patience. Without patience how do we ever build a project? Fans have gotten used to the fire and hire method by Roman and occasional trophy win. 

This is just not true, I had plenty of patience for Tuchel. 9th spot in the league was seen as unacceptable when Lampard was here. If Tuchel had us sitting 9th, everybody would be saying he is massively underachieving with this squad, so why does Potter get away with it?

I'm tired of this narrative going around that we shouldn't be competing with the top 6 (or 4 of the top 6 at least) Why is it now "magically have us competing after the turmoil" when at the start of the season, everybody was saying 4th place was the bare minimum? So it's the bare minimum for Tuchel, but for Potter, the turmoil is too much and we should expect mid table? I am still yet to hear a good reason why standards are being lowered for Potter. He has us playing as bad, if not worse, than Solskjaer's United.

37 minutes ago, enigma said:

Conte is a world class manager, yet he has that Tottenham team looking toothless despite this being his second season there.

There are fans on Potter's csse after a few months here for not magically having us competing after all the turmoil we've gone through and constant injuries since the beginning of the season.

So many people have zero patience. Without patience how do we ever build a project? Fans have gotten used to the fire and hire method by Roman and occasional trophy win. 

The fans' patience matters very little. The longer we play this brand of pathetic slow lethargic football, the harder it becomes to believe in Potter's project. 

This is the most extreme blind faith a fan can have. We are holding out on hope that Todd, Eghbali and our mountain of directors can turn the entire thing around off field when nothing is being done on the field where it actually matters

David Moyes 2.0 

47 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Where was that patience for Tuchel? We were above Liverpool when he was sacked, now they've overtaken us.

These are also the same people who wanted Tuchel sacked before he even won a CL, or when we had an injury crises last season and fell from the top spot. Now Potter is getting all the excuses they refused to give Tuchel, there's injuries, the players aren't good enough, etc. 

Come on Potter take us down, I have never seen Chelsea win the first division/championship. Let's make more history!

24 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

This is just not true, I had plenty of patience for Tuchel. 9th spot in the league was seen as unacceptable when Lampard was here. If Tuchel had us sitting 9th, everybody would be saying he is massively underachieving with this squad, so why does Potter get away with it?

I'm tired of this narrative going around that we shouldn't be competing with the top 6 (or 4 of the top 6 at least) Why is it now "magically have us competing after the turmoil" when at the start of the season, everybody was saying 4th place was the bare minimum? So it's the bare minimum for Tuchel, but for Potter, the turmoil is too much and we should expect mid table? I am still yet to hear a good reason why standards are being lowered for Potter. He has us playing as bad, if not worse, than Solskjaer's United.

Exactly, the double standard is crazy. Even Lampard wasn't treated with this much leniency.

12 minutes ago, El regreso said:

David Moyes 2.0 

Moyes had Everton in the Europa League spots year on year, even he's far more qualified than Potter.

The bell is beginning to toll for Potter I think. 

As others have said, it's not as much the results as the lack of any transformation in the way we play. We literally are still playing Tuchelball six months after he was sacked.

Just now, Spiller86 said:

The bell is beginning to toll for Potter I think. 

As others have said, it's not as much the results as the lack of any transformation in the way we play. We literally are still playing Tuchelball six months after he was sacked.

This is it for me it’s more the lack of any progress even if it’s small, I have seen no change at all and he’s been here for how long now ?

United sort out their midfield issue with Casemiro, look at them now. 

Not saying Enzo = Casemiro, but adding that bid of quality in midfield goes a very, very long way. 

Is what Potter did at Brighton anything spectacular? Was it any better than what Alan Pardew did at Newcastle 12 years ago? Or Allerdyce with West Ham? Or Mark Hughes with Fulham? Or Tony Pulis with Stoke? You could probably make a case with Eddie Howe also. I don't know whats so special about Potter. Lampard at the time was understandable given the circumstance we were in which forced us to utilise our Youth System. 

It's just very strange how we've gambled so much on an extremely average manager who's done nothing in the game but perform reasonably well with a midtable team. Which has been done by many managers previously as mentioned, even British ones. 

Brentford 0:0
Brighton 1:4
Newcastle 0:1
Nottingham F. 1:1

We can't finish top 4 like this, only lucky that other teams above us also got just 1 point.

 

50 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Really bad, those two words describe the situation.

Really bad results, really bad fotball. Whats even worse though is that there is no identity to our football. 

Sometimes we press put not convincingly.
Sometimes we sit deep without looking solid that way either.
Sometimes we look to move the ball fast, most of the team we are slow with it (never seen us slower than we were today).

And so on. Players are a part of the problem but identity and a style of play should be in play regardless of the players. Klopp had a bunch of mediocre players to begin with at Liverpool but they showed what they wanted to do from the moment he came to Liverpool.

Potter shouldn't be sacked but he needs to start to show something.

 

Agree totally. No pattern or style. Cannot put together 2 consecutive 45 mins due to a shocking lack of overall fitness and no improvement in months 

2 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Brentford 0:0
Brighton 1:4
Newcastle 0:1
Nottingham F. 1:1

We can't finish top 4 like this, only lucky that other teams above us also got just 1 point.

We are super lucky that the bottom teams are now fodder for the top 6 teams and are scraping points with each other

37 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

This is just not true, I had plenty of patience for Tuchel. 9th spot in the league was seen as unacceptable when Lampard was here. If Tuchel had us sitting 9th, everybody would be saying he is massively underachieving with this squad, so why does Potter get away with it?

I'm tired of this narrative going around that we shouldn't be competing with the top 6 (or 4 of the top 6 at least) Why is it now "magically have us competing after the turmoil" when at the start of the season, everybody was saying 4th place was the bare minimum? So it's the bare minimum for Tuchel, but for Potter, the turmoil is too much and we should expect mid table? I am still yet to hear a good reason why standards are being lowered for Potter. He has us playing as bad, if not worse, than Solskjaer's United.

Spot on