He's regressed since Potter. He needs dropping.

Make Colwill captain. Caicedo/Cucurella vice. 

14 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

He's regressed since Potter. He needs dropping.

Make Colwill captain. Caicedo/Cucurella vice. 

At some point I would like to see how he would do in Jose's first Chelsea set up. 

Enzo as Maka, Caicedo or Lavia as Essien and Palmer as Lamps. 

Enzo has the brain and the ability to make passes to play that Maka role but physically he cannot do this number 8 game he is asked to do, even slow midfielders breeze past him.

Won't see it as Maresca would have to rip up the whole game plan just to accommodate Enzo. And that's if it even works.

6 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

At some point I would like to see how he would do in Jose's first Chelsea set up. 

Enzo as Maka, Caicedo or Lavia as Essien and Palmer as Lamps. 

Enzo has the brain and the ability to make passes to play that Maka role but physically he cannot do this number 8 game he is asked to do, even slow midfielders breeze past him.

Won't see it as Maresca would have to rip up the whole game plan just to accommodate Enzo. And that's if it even works.

With touches like yesterday, I'd be terrified of Enzo playing that deep. 

Bakayoko esq. 

53 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

With touches like yesterday, I'd be terrified of Enzo playing that deep. 

Bakayoko esq. 

Not sure where he plays then. He is not an 8, nor a 10, he cannot play wide. If he cannot be a 6 where can you play him and make use of him?

4 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Not sure where he plays then. He is not an 8, nor a 10, he cannot play wide. If he cannot be a 6 where can you play him and make use of him?

No where until he can actually play football. I'd play Caicedo and Lavia, or potentially even Carney in that #8 role. 

Needs to sit out for a good while. The performance yesterday was an abomination. 

29 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

No where until he can actually play football. I'd play Caicedo and Lavia, or potentially even Carney in that #8 role. 

Needs to sit out for a good while. The performance yesterday was an abomination. 

He is the captain though, and a 105mill investment. I just do not see him being dropped, rested but not dropped.

Looks an average player. We paid about 4 times what he's really worth.

51 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Not sure where he plays then. He is not an 8, nor a 10, he cannot play wide. If he cannot be a 6 where can you play him and make use of him?

That's the question that's puzzled us all from when he joined till now...lol

I don't know if Enzo junior even knows what he himself is good at. Passing the ball can't be his only skill!

Edited October 7, 20241 yr by Simplymo

On 06/10/2024 at 23:13, Scott Harris said:

If Lavia ever gets fit, then he is easily in front of him in my opinion. He's so slow in everything he does, and when he does have time, like with those two corners, he does nothing with it. If he was English with a name like Dewsbury-Hall, he would never get in this side.

I'd forgotten about the corners... dreadful - definitely not what you'd expect from a World Cup winning midfielder - but he can't bloody shoot either.

Supposedly Maresca told Eghbali and the DoFs when he was interviewed for the job that he had a number of different formations that he could build around Fernandez to get the best out of him.

I look forward to seeing one of them !

1 minute ago, Sexyfootball said:

Supposedly Maresca told Eghbali and the DoFs when he was interviewed for the job that he had a number of different formations that he could build around Fernandez to get the best out of him.

I look forward to seeing one of them !

Yeah I remember that being quoted.

If true Maresca cannot drop Enzo, if he does he more or less is admitting defeat. 

Would not surprise me if he is sacked if he fails to turn Enzo in to a key play who is actually productive. 4th place or no.

3 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

With touches like yesterday, I'd be terrified of Enzo playing that deep. 

Bakayoko esq. 

no, not even close 

1 hour ago, Phillip said:

no, not even close 

There were literally 2 instances yesterday where Enzo had the first touch of an elephant that led to Forrest almost scoring. 

That is peak Bakayoko. 

He’s nowhere near as bad as some are making out but he will continue to struggle at Chelsea due to our set up and the individual jobs each player must do.

Just doesn’t suit him and I don’t see this changing. 

Just looking at his PL ratings on Whoscored, which support the eye test that he is getting worse.

22/23 Ave Rating 6.80

23/24 Ave Rating 6.75

24/25 Ave Rating 6.61

Even his best for us is pretty average stuff ... and doubly so considering the fee and the wages. 

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

There were literally 2 instances yesterday where Enzo had the first touch of an elephant that led to Forrest almost scoring. 

That is peak Bakayoko. 

Ah but he was so bad at least he brought us plenty of ironic laughter.

Our biggest injury issue right now is that he is fully fit.

9 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

There were literally 2 instances yesterday where Enzo had the first touch of an elephant that led to Forrest almost scoring. 

That is peak Bakayoko. 

There was one I recall, he was close to the touch line and his first touch went as far back and passed cucurella (I think it was) who had just passed it to him! I think a forest player took it from there and continued the run. 

He basically helped that forest player to get past cucu and go for a run at goal.

🤦‍♂️

 

We got rid of Kovacic for this guy... its a pity that happened becuase Kovacic is the better player on the past two seasons form. Im done hoping the likes of Felix or this guy somehow change the direction on their careers, time for the players to deliver or send them on their merry way down the leagues. 

3 hours ago, Simplymo said:

There was one I recall, he was close to the touch line and his first touch went as far back and passed cucurella (I think it was) who had just passed it to him! I think a forest player took it from there and continued the run. 

He basically helped that forest player to get past cucu and go for a run at goal.

🤦‍♂️

 

Shocking 

His two corners that barely got off the ground were laughable, I play 6th division (beers and pies at half time) in Australia and we’d be subbed for sh*te like that…..

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I can’t believe he’s the captain. He’s fking sh*te, need to be sold in next window. Waste of space.

1 minute ago, dansubrosa said:

I can’t believe he’s the captain. He’s fking sh*te, need to be sold in next window. Waste of space.

Caicedo had the armband over him in the second half. I see no reasons that should change.

And also, if Enzo is subbed on to take on attacking positions like tonight then we are better off leaving him on the bench and bring on Felix or Nkunku instead. Don't see how he gets back in the side if Lavia and especially Caicedo continues like they did today.

He got shoulder checked off the ball by one of their CMs like it was an adult against a child.

Benfica I applaud you well done!! You absolutely fleeced us!!