11 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

Yeah, I'm starting to feel abit concerned about him. He's a decent player but that's about it... He seems like a completely different player to what I saw in World Cup when we signed him. He's been here half a season longer than Caicedo but I'm much happier with Caicedo.

I'm not too happy with either of them to be honest.

Still not sure what he offers just an Argentinian mark noble without the penalties 

Shame he's not an Academy player, then Maresca can say he's not good enough, doesn't figure in his plans and banish him from the first team .

54 minutes ago, dan_cfc said:

Still not sure what he offers just an Argentinian mark noble without the penalties 

I would take peak Noble anytime, we need a bit of that in our midfield.

6 hours ago, Nibs said:

Oh no, this isn't going to become another Jorginho type love in with loads of stats and graphs "proving" just how "good" he is!!

 

He needs to start pointing more before he can be compared to Jorginho 

Of all the 100+ million footballers very few have been a success after their move.

Mbappe has but not too many other than him. Haaland obviously if he went at market value and possibly Rice to Arsenal.

Neymar didn’t really do it at PSG. Coutinho at Barca.

Hazard at Madrid

Grealish at City

Griezmann to Barca

Felix at Atleti.

And both Fernandez and Caicedo at Chelsea. Neither has justified the investment yet.

Added to spending a world record on a keeper that Stevie Wonder must have scouted for us we have a horrendous record when spending big on a player.

The only consolation is most other clubs are too.

Still don’t understand our midfield, we spent the best part of £300m on a quartet that lacks power, size and wouldn’t get you 10 league goals in a season. It’s scary:

5 hours ago, ducavis said:

Still don’t understand our midfield, we spent the best part of £300m on a quartet that lacks power, size and wouldn’t get you 10 league goals in a season. It’s scary:

It's why I still think there is a chance here for Chukwuemeka, Casadei and Andrey Santos, all of whom seem to offer what we are lacking. 

On 03/09/2024 at 10:56, Nibs said:

Oh no, this isn't going to become another Jorginho type love in with loads of stats and graphs "proving" just how "good" he is!!

 

That is for KDH that understands how the team is supposed to play

 

On 03/09/2024 at 03:22, Nibs said:

I'm not too happy with either of them to be honest.

Agreed. If he was not made of Glass then I feel Lavia would be better than both of them combined.

This is the vision for Enzo, he just need to improve his defensive skillset 

2 hours ago, Bob stark said:

This is the vision for Enzo, he just need to improve his defensive skillset 

And probably his offensive skillet too

3 hours ago, Bob stark said:

This is the vision for Enzo, he just need to improve his defensive skillset 

2 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Nice specs. Is that relaxing before or after watching the workers paint the fence?

8 minutes ago, dermott said:

Nice specs. Is that relaxing before or after watching the workers paint the fence?

That dried last week, this week is spent monitoring the finish to see whether i can knock their valuation down and save some money. 

14 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

That dried last week, this week is spent monitoring the finish to see whether i can knock their valuation down and save some money. 

That's my Management boy! 🤘

If he doesn’t do it for us this season I’d try and move him on.

Caicedo and Lavia look to have a nailed on role in the team whereas we are still trying to find a way of getting the best from Enzo. Santos looks like a better fit imo.

15 hours ago, 19seventyone said:

If he doesn’t do it for us this season I’d try and move him on.

Caicedo and Lavia look to have a nailed on role in the team whereas we are still trying to find a way of getting the best from Enzo. Santos looks like a better fit imo.

Are we even able to move him on? 

Hate it when we look at transfers through the eyes of finances but wouldn't he still have about £70m book value (i'm sure @terraloon can offer some insight). Realistically is any club paying over £50m for him? Would end up being one of those endless loans. 

As long as Eghbali is still here I can't see Enzo going anywhere ... same for Mudryk. 

16 hours ago, 19seventyone said:

If he doesn’t do it for us this season I’d try and move him on.

Caicedo and Lavia look to have a nailed on role in the team whereas we are still trying to find a way of getting the best from Enzo. Santos looks like a better fit imo.

Steady on, he's still very young and obviously a good player in there somewhere. 

2 hours ago, Remodez said:

Steady on, he's still very young and obviously a good player in there somewhere. 

It's the international break. 

4 hours ago, Remodez said:

Steady on, he's still very young and obviously a good player in there somewhere. 

Of course there is a player in there. I’m not saying he’s a bad player at all. 
 

I look at Enzo and i don’t see as big a role for him as he might get elsewhere. I’ve a suspicion he needs the team built around him to get the best out of him and that’s unlikely to happen at Chelsea. 
 

I hope he proves otherwise I really do but if he continues with the form he’s shown since he signed then that won’t be good enough I’m afraid.

 

Thought he’s been one of the better players last couple of matches. Can build on that. 

8 hours ago, PhilH930 said:

Thought he’s been one of the better players last couple of matches. Can build on that. 

We must have been watching different games because he was crap against Palace.

He's now been disqualified from driving because of speeding and running a red light (2 separate incidents).

He's turning into the Argentinian Ravel Morrison.