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Another Winger! - Noni Madueke

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18 minutes ago, Remodez said:

Another poor game, every decision in the final third was the wrong one. Didn’t offer much defensively in the first half either but was better defensively in the second so at least that’s something.

I feel like all of Madueke's worst traits come from him thinking it's all about him. It's the main thing holding his game back.

He’s fine. If he isn’t offering in attack he’ll put in that shift defensively. There was a big clearance he made from a cross that past Disasi.
 

Big reason for the clean sheet. Defended as a unit today. 

Wouldn't give him MOTM today like @Remodez but he was, without a doubt, a lot better than Sancho today. Still trying too hard I feel but I like that he believes in himself and is always prepared to take it on. 

Still has trouble knowing when to be selfish and when to pass.

Also really frustrating me atm. At times he completely forgets to help the defence and at other times he's right there putting in an amazing effort to defend. 

He needs to do better. We know he can do better!

 

On 21/09/2024 at 20:09, Simplymo said:

Still has trouble knowing when to be selfish and when to pass.

Also really frustrating me atm. At times he completely forgets to help the defence and at other times he's right there putting in an amazing effort to defend. 

He needs to do better. We know he can do better!

 

This hasn't really changed (nor did we expect it to).  Can point to West Ham where he should have squared it, or yesterday when he really should have scored (or passed) when through.  A great squad option, but would like to see Neto start a few more games, or dare I saw Palmer to the right and Felix to start (this may not give the defensive coverage we seek). 

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5 minutes ago, PhilH930 said:

This hasn't really changed (nor did we expect it to).  Can point to West Ham where he should have squared it, or yesterday when he really should have scored (or passed) when through.  A great squad option, but would like to see Neto start a few more games, or dare I saw Palmer to the right and Felix to start (this may not give the defensive coverage we seek). 

No it would not. However we do need a different plan for the sides that will use a low block. We have only faced a side using a low block in the league this season, all 3 away opponents pressed us high up, Brighton even more so. Palace are the only low block side we faced and we could not beat them.

 

Forest will be the next low block opponents in the league, and for that I would like to see a few changes to see if this combination can finally give us something that breaks a low block:

 

Caciedo

Lavia

 

Felix

Palmer

Sancho

 

Nkunku

 

Low block takes away half of Enzos asset, long range passing. Lavia is an excellent passer and offers us more defensively against breaks, which makes up for taking out the better defence Noni for the does not defend Felix.

 

Nkunku works better in limited space, Jackson needs space. Sancho and Palmer continue their link up, joining with Felix, another who works well with limited room.

Why are people sticking Felix in the side, & shafting our only potentially world class player to the right to accommodate him? Surely it’s Neto to replace Madueke. Even if in an alternate universe you intend to move Palmer to the the RW, surely it’s Nkunku ahead of Felix.

11 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Why are people sticking Felix in the side, & shafting our only potentially world class player to the right to accommodate him? Surely it’s Neto to replace Madueke. Even if in an alternate universe you intend to move Palmer to the the RW, surely it’s Nkunku ahead of Felix.

Personally I would have Felix up top, with palmer just behind.  Nkunku and Felix competing for the spot up top. Neto and Madueke for the right, sancho and misha for the left. Palmer to start as a 10

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1 hour ago, ducavis said:

Why are people sticking Felix in the side, & shafting our only potentially world class player to the right to accommodate him? Surely it’s Neto to replace Madueke. Even if in an alternate universe you intend to move Palmer to the the RW, surely it’s Nkunku ahead of Felix.

I am not. I am putting him on the right.

1 hour ago, ducavis said:

Why are people sticking Felix in the side, & shafting our only potentially world class player to the right to accommodate him? Surely it’s Neto to replace Madueke. Even if in an alternate universe you intend to move Palmer to the the RW, surely it’s Nkunku ahead of Felix.

Just options. Palmer crushed it from the right last season. Central is the starting point now, but if we need to mix it up, that’s all. Plus Palmer floats anyway no matter where we play him! 

But agree, stay central, and have an option in pocket. 

1 hour ago, ducavis said:

Why are people sticking Felix in the side, & shafting our only potentially world class player to the right to accommodate him? Surely it’s Neto to replace Madueke. Even if in an alternate universe you intend to move Palmer to the the RW, surely it’s Nkunku ahead of Felix.

Surely Neto is the natural substitute in the RW but we all know that Palmer is best playing on the right, not as a pure winger but on the right attacking side. Playing Felix through the middle, like Palmer is playing now, and moving Palmer to the right, is not a crazy idea. That’s where Palmer was playing last season and it was working well for him.

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5 minutes ago, RMH said:

Surely Neto is the natural substitute in the RW but we all know that Palmer is best playing on the right, not as a pure winger but on the right attacking side. Playing Felix through the middle, like Palmer is playing now, and moving Palmer to the right, is not a crazy idea. That’s where Palmer was playing last season and it was working well for him.

As a pure RW Neto is absolutely the choice, and would be my choice for Pool, United, Arsenal and Newcastle there. More likely to pick the right option from limited chances.

The bigger debate is who do you pick from Lavia and Enzo we we face Pool and Arsenal? We are likely to have less of the ball, chance to counter so Enzos long range passing is an assest. However even Brighton went through the Enzo and Caicedo combo like a hot knife through room temp butter, so we could get stuffed by better sides.

My vote would be for Lavia and Caicedo, with Enzo dropped. Don't see it happening though, think either Sancho or Noni get dropped, Cole goes to right and we have little affect on the game 

2 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

As a pure RW Neto is absolutely the choice, and would be my choice for Pool, United, Arsenal and Newcastle there. More likely to pick the right option from limited chances.

The bigger debate is who do you pick from Lavia and Enzo we we face Pool and Arsenal? We are likely to have less of the ball, chance to counter so Enzos long range passing is an assest. However even Brighton went through the Enzo and Caicedo combo like a hot knife through room temp butter, so we could get stuffed by better sides.

My vote would be for Lavia and Caicedo, with Enzo dropped. Don't see it happening though, think either Sancho or Noni get dropped, Cole goes to right and we have little affect on the game 

I don’t think that there’s a debate about Enzo or Lavia. On paper, Enzo and Caicedo are a quality, well balanced midfield but on the practice, I think that Enzo is mostly a passenger. So, I wouldn’t play Enzo at all, Lavia and Caicedo seems to me the midfield 2 of choice. Now, what does the board think about not playing Enzo?

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2 minutes ago, RMH said:

I don’t think that there’s a debate about Enzo or Lavia. On paper, Enzo and Caicedo are a quality, well balanced midfield but on the practice, I think that Enzo is mostly a passenger. So, I wouldn’t play Enzo at all, Lavia and Caicedo seems to me the midfield 2 of choice. Now, what does the board think about not playing Enzo?

They made him captain even after "song gate". Does that answer your question?

16 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

They made him captain even after "song gate". Does that answer your question?

I don’t want to get into the song debate, I think the song was bad but I also don’t think Enzo is a racist. From the footballing perspective, he’s no captain and he should not be playing ahead of Chuku and/or Lavia (when fit). I guess that the board see it otherwise but, Maresca should show some balls and he certainly sees that same as all of us. He won’t drop him, of course.

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9 minutes ago, RMH said:

I don’t want to get into the song debate, I think the song was bad but I also don’t think Enzo is a racist. From the footballing perspective, he’s no captain and he should not be playing ahead of Chuku and/or Lavia (when fit). I guess that the board see it otherwise but, Maresca should show some balls and he certainly sees that same as all of us. He won’t drop him, of course.

I don't Maresca is allowed to drop him for big games.

Egbahli personally fought tooth and nail to get Enzo. I don't think a manager will be allowed not to use him, and will be sacked for failing to make him a key team player. Same as Caicedo.

He’s starting to piss me off with his greediness.

He need to relax and be a team player, let things happen for him rather than trying to force it.

I really wanted him to have more games last season but now I’m not sure, a lot of our results would have been far more impressive if it wasn’t for his selfishness.

Hopefully Maresca will sort him out… At this point I’m sort of hoping Neto cements a starting place because he’s a team player.

26 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

He’s starting to piss me off with his greediness.

He need to relax and be a team player, let things happen for him rather than trying to force it.

I really wanted him to have more games last season but now I’m not sure, a lot of our results would have been far more impressive if it wasn’t for his selfishness.

Hopefully Maresca will sort him out… At this point I’m sort of hoping Neto cements a starting place because he’s a team player.

If there is another blatantly easy chances to pass and score and he decides to hit it in the side netting again the manager should just take him if immediately. He would soon learn that it isn't all about him but the team. 

28 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

He’s starting to piss me off with his greediness.

He need to relax and be a team player, let things happen for him rather than trying to force it.

I really wanted him to have more games last season but now I’m not sure, a lot of our results would have been far more impressive if it wasn’t for his selfishness.

Hopefully Maresca will sort him out… At this point I’m sort of hoping Neto cements a starting place because he’s a team player.

Like you I hate that people are picking on him and Jackson. The are both contributing massively. Noni and Palmer are cementing a real partnership.

Im sure you will agree that Noni is a player, like Jackson, that makes things happen. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. But he makes things happen.

6 hours ago, just said:

Like you I hate that people are picking on him and Jackson. The are both contributing massively. Noni and Palmer are cementing a real partnership.

Im sure you will agree that Noni is a player, like Jackson, that makes things happen. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. But he makes things happen.

I think I read a stat about PL partnerships somewhere that Jackson and Palmer have the highest numbers as a duo. Even higher than present and past established couples.

4 hours ago, Simplymo said:

I think I read a stat about PL partnerships somewhere that Jackson and Palmer have the highest numbers as a duo. Even higher than present and past established couples.

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I think i read Palmer and Jackson were on 10, assume that's changed since the weekend though. 

Update: they had 7 last season and have 4 so far this season. 11 total. 

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5 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

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I think i read Palmer and Jackson were on 10, assume that's changed since the weekend though. 

Update: they had 7 last season and have 4 so far this season. 11 total. 

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Plenty of time to be at the top of those charts if they carry on like they have.

 

Nice one bud.

42 minutes ago, just said:

Hope the injury isn't a bad one. Will be a big, big loss if it is. 

Colwill went off injured too, which will also be a big loss if it's serious. I heard the commentator say Madueke could barely put any pressure on his foot, which is a worry. Colwill had an issue with his thigh or hip from what I could gather.

Hopefully they will both be okay after the international break, because I don't want to go up against Liverpool with Colwill and Madueke injured and Fofana and Cucurella suspended.

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