42 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

It does make me laugh that we view our guys as emerging talent specialists finding all of these pearls in the back of beyond. We're paying 20m- 30m a time on unproven kids that haven't even played real senior football. Of course we are signingbtgem, we're paying 10m more than anyone else is interested in paying

And to make it worse, we are selling CHO a proven champions league player for £8m???? Something really wrong with our strategy

Just now, Edjmendy said:

And to make it worse, we are selling CHO a proven champions league player for £8m???? Something really wrong with our strategy

We've literally just turned down that offer.

Just now, dkw said:

We've literally just turned down that offer.

No we turned down the offer for £4m. Fulham were trying it on

8 minutes ago, Edjmendy said:

No we turned down the offer for £4m. Fulham were trying it on

So we've accepted £8m then, you have proof of that?

7 minutes ago, Edjmendy said:

And to make it worse, we are selling CHO a proven champions league player for £8m???? Something really wrong with our strategy

A proven champions league player ?!?! Have you not seen Callum play the past 3 years ? Does 3 goals in the champions league group phase makes you a proven champions league player?

 

Just now, DidierDrogbalala said:

A proven champions league player ?!?! Have you not seen Callum play the past 3 years ? Does 3 goals in the champions league group phase makes you a proven champions league player?

 

He still has a medal doesnt he and won the CL two yars ago?

5 minutes ago, Edjmendy said:

He still has a medal doesnt he and won the CL two yars ago?

If thats your definition of a PROVEN champions league player then i dont know what to say.

1 hour ago, WhiteWall said:

It does make me laugh that we view our guys as emerging talent specialists finding all of these pearls in the back of beyond. We're paying 20m- 30m a time on unproven kids that haven't even played real senior football. Of course we are signingbtgem, we're paying 10m more than anyone else is interested in paying

Yeah because Santos and Gabriel were going for £5m to other clubs 🙄. What some of you lot need to realise is this isn't 2003 anymore where top young talents are going for £2m and a packet of quavers 

Edited July 29, 20232 yr by timetowaste

He gives me bakayoko vibes

This continues to be a fascinating approach by the current hierarchy. Is it official policy not to sign anyone past puberty now?

28 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

Yeah because Santos and Gabriel were going for £5m to other clubs 🙄. What some of you lot need to realise is this isn't 2003 anymore where top young talents are going for £2m and a packet of quavers 

Brighton have literally signed Caicedo, Mitoma, Gilmour. Ensico, Bouanotte for less in total than 1 Lesley in the past year or two.

Who knows what we are doing but it's certainly not the Brighton MO.

29 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

Yeah because Santos and Gabriel were going for £5m to other clubs 🙄. What some of you lot need to realise is this isn't 2003 anymore where top young talents are going for £2m and a packet of quavers 

Okay, so the counter argument to that is who are we outbidding then. This latest signing played in 26 matches last season in Ligue 1. 1,328 minutes. His Trasfermrkt value is stating €9m. These figures are always low, but we paid what €25m. Apparently there were other clubs interested, Apparently. Did anyone else bid for him?

7 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

Okay, so the counter argument to that is who are we outbidding then. This latest signing played in 26 matches last season in Ligue 1. 1,328 minutes. His Trasfermrkt value is stating €9m. These figures are always low, but we paid what €25m. Apparently there were other clubs interested, Apparently. Did anyone else bid for him?

You have to take the Transfermarkt valuations with a pinch of salt as they are based only on opinions of users of the web site, and not defined by any sort of algorithm, or other logic.

Having said that, we are definitely overpaying in this instance, as in many others, and we're also selling cheap. Not great negotiating tactics in my book.

This Lesley chap (why am I thinking 'Benidorm' LOL) is going to cost only £1.5m less than we got for Kovacic if all these numbers are to be believed. Crazy !

1 hour ago, Edjmendy said:

And to make it worse, we are selling CHO a proven champions league player for £8m???? Something really wrong with our strategy

CHO is on massive wages with 12 months left. We either sell him cheap, or try get more money and the have to subsidise his wages for a season. 

We seem to be signing some good young players, so I'm confident Les will be decent too. 

Still not entirely comfortable with spending so much on loan players, while we have holes in our squad anyway. 

Would rather have a top keeper, and a partner for Enzo than 3 or 4 players tearing up in a different league on loan.

19 minutes ago, big blue said:

CHO is on massive wages with 12 months left. We either sell him cheap, or try get more money and the have to subsidise his wages for a season. 

I find it baffling Fulham are in for him. Cannot see him delivering for them 

3 hours ago, Zeta said:

We are spending so much on these random players. 20m here, 25m there. It adds up. 

Certainly does. Probably holding firm on a longer term strategy that some come thru and others have good resale value. 

8 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

I find it baffling Fulham are in for him. Cannot see him delivering for them 

Maybe some connections with his brother who is his agent, and also came through at fulham too. 

30 minutes ago, big blue said:

CHO is on massive wages with 12 months left. We either sell him cheap, or try get more money and the have to subsidise his wages for a season. 

Or we sell him for what he's worth and don't subsidise his wages. £15m fee is reasonable. 

This is the long term project the club wanted so the sooner fans accept that the easier it will be for you ladies and gents. 

I rather this than spending what is considered standard amount of money now for us whenever we go in for a half decent player who’s had one good season. Every clubs wants £65+ million now from us.
Didn’t some fans always moan why we aren’t finding uncut diamonds yet when the club does try and do that some fans are moaning.

I could only imagine the uproar had we signed Kante from France he would’ve stood a chance with some fans.

Edited July 29, 20232 yr by El regreso

could be the next Camavinga

Rennes youth academy is excellent 

Just now, Gordon Bennett said:

Or we sell him for what he's worth and don't subsidise his wages. £15m fee is reasonable. 

Teams are bidding £4m. You might think he is worth £15m, but if no one is prepared to pay that, especially if teams are having to offer him slightly higher wages, then that is his price. 

I'm sure the club would love £15m for him!

2 hours ago, TheCeleryKing said:

 

Chelsea have agreed a deal to sign Rennes midfielder Lesley Ugochukwu. The deal is for a permanent signing. Chelsea have reached an agreement worth around €27.5m for the 19-year-old. A medical is scheduled for the next 24 hours.

probably paid in 27 years 

The only reason we are payingso much for him now is that he would be one of the two DMs we want in Chelsea first team squad. Maybe a back up to Caicedo if we get him or anyone else. No way we are spending so much on a player we would loan to Strasbourg. Either that or his ceiling is so high that we are prepared to pay a premium on him now than to risk waiting until he has a breakout season and prices beyond our reach

34 minutes ago, azpi28 said:

probably paid in 27 years 

When he will only be a little older than Thiago.