1 hour ago, Drogba1 said:

I'm getting the impression that he knows how to imitate Pep's tactics, but doesn't actually have the managerial ability himself when it comes to substitutions/changing strategy etc.

Worked okay for Arteta...

sh*tty f**king Pep style possession sh*te, a billion passes to score the ultimate perfect goal, Citeh and the Gooners are bad enough…

1 hour ago, gurru991 said:

He used him as a substitute quite a lot initially & then as a starter when we had injuries. Funnily enough when he was playing more you guys called him home to sit on the bench.

And took him a while to use Casadei further forward where he looked better. I saw him muscled too easily off the ball in midfield.

2 minutes ago, Ballack & Blu said:

sh*tty f**king Pep style possession sh*te, a billion passes to score the ultimate perfect goal, Citeh and the Gooners are bad enough…

Our best player already worked with Maresca so if anything we should expect an even better Palmer next season. Unless you also believe that watching Palmer score is boring...

 

3 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

In all seriousness, this could be the first statement signing to grab the fanbase's attention and give Maresca what he needs. In reality none of our goalkeepers provide him with what he requires, so he may actually need two, a headline keeper and an understudy.

If this lot were to go and get Maignan out of Milan, whilst there is upheaval there, and sort out the Lukaku - Osimhen deal then that could really unite the fanbase and put a whole different perspective on things. Arguably we still need a commanding CB, especially with major doubts over Fofana, but this would be a real power play by the board. Maresca would then have elite at either end of the pitch, with him working out the patterns in moving the ball through the ranks.

Will they do it. Not on your nelly.

I wouldn't rush. Had a pretty erratic season. 

5 hours ago, ozboy said:

Hmm what about Pellegrini and Dalgleish?

Pellegrini had league titles in Argentina, 

Dalglish for 3 league titles with Liverpool in the 80s, so yeah he would also be an exception, but I did say last 30 years. 

Looks like it's done now anyway.

3 hours ago, guddy69 said:

I don't think we need a goalie..we need to not have two completely unmarked attackers roaming around in our penalty box every time the opposition attacks..and tiny Cucurella on the back post making zero difference 

He uses the goalkeeper as a sweeping CB at times. Sanchez, Petrovic and Kepa are a collective comedy of errors waiting to happen

9 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

I despise Arteta, i think he's an unbearable man child and i wish nothing but the worst for him professionally and personally. I pray for his downfall to every major god from every major religion in the hopes one of them may smite him down with a bolt of lightning. Having said that i can acknowledge the fantastic job he's done on the pitch with an Arsenal team that looked destined to rot in mid table for the next decade. I think you're underestimating the power and the job Edu has done at Arsenal and attributing it all to Arteta. Edu was the mastermind behind the Martinelli deal etc. Arteta will have his opinion but Edu has the say on everything in and out.

I have no problem with the technical directors having control of transfers. It stops us being put in a position of managers leaving and us being stuck with deadwood and players that don't fit the system. Chelsea's squad right now is fantastic. Its inexperienced but its brilliant. Get a striker to share the workload with Jackson and we should be up there in most competitions. 

I agree with all of that, just not sure why thought the need to initially respond with Arteta as an example of a manager that has won a Premier League with having won a title at a previous club. 

While we are on Arsenal and Arteta which you brought up, again they have 1 fa cup to show for 5 years work, a couple of near misses in the league, nothing to even get remotely excited about in europe, and out earlier in most of the domestic cups. 

Now you say this model has been great with Edu as the mastermind etc. Surely the biggest turning point was josh Kroeke taking charge and them moving away from signing potential stars, to them signing players with an actual pedigree of winning things like Zinchenko, Jesus, and then Rice, Jorginho and Havertz.

So the patient, give Arteta time, let Edu find bargain youngsters with high potential model,  actually had arsenal bottling top 4 finish 2 years ago. It's only the change in strategy and the increasing of the wage structure green lighted by Josh Kroeke that has allowed Arsenal to bring in the quality Arteta needed to actually mount a title charge. 

So again, this is not comparible to our situation. I don't get why you brought Arteta and Arsenal into the discussion, or why you replied initially with Arteta.

2 hours ago, KonaKai Blue said:

I would rather boring football and win. Give me 38 1-0s. 

If this guy lasts 2 full seasons, it would be a success.

Each to their own. I am too old now to be arsed watching turgid, boring, sh*t football.

Winning is important, of course it is, but other than winning the final game of a successful boring campaign none of the others are memorable. I still want to be entertained. You say you'd be happy with 38 1-0s but if you were going to the Bridge every home game, paying over £100 a trip to watch 19 systemic boring, drab 1-0 wins it would get old quick. Surely you would crave some level of creativity, some style, some entertainment. As much as we had some train wrecks last season, there were highlights. Frustrating as they were because we didn't win any of them, but Liverpool, Arsenal and man City matches were some of the best that we played all season and yet all three ended up in draws.

2 hours ago, KonaKai Blue said:

I would rather boring football and win. Give me 38 1-0s. 

If this guy lasts 2 full seasons, it would be a success.

Each to their own. I am too old now to be arsed watching turgid, boring, sh*t football.

Winning is important, of course it is, but other than winning the final game of a successful boring campaign none of the others are memorable. I still want to be entertained. You say you'd be happy with 38 1-0s but if you were going to the Bridge every home game, paying over £100 a trip to watch 19 systemic boring, drab 1-0 wins it would get old quick. Surely you would crave some level of creativity, some style, some entertainment. As much as we had some train wrecks last season, there were highlights. Frustrating as they were because we didn't win any of them, but Liverpool, Arsenal and man City matches were some of the best that we played all season and yet all three ended up in draws.

46 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Worked okay for Arteta...

Not every person in Pep's backroom staff is the next Pep, this is such childish logic

2 hours ago, Argo said:

The funny thing is, it's only one (admittedly incredible) signing that's the reason Shields isn't grouped with Winstanley and Stewart in the fans eyes.

And the mythology surrounding Lavia, as they trot out the same single shot (against us) whenever he is mentioned. I am agog with anticipation about the lad as his light burns brighter with every game he misses.

I do actually like the look of the lad, if he can stay fit, but the kudos we give to players when they are not playing is staggering at times.

We missed out on this manager, now at Sutton FC..

it would have been more interesting 🙂

33 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Not every person in Pep's backroom staff is the next Pep, this is such childish logic

Definitely

26 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

And the mythology surrounding Lavia, as they trot out the same single shot (against us) whenever he is mentioned. I am agog with anticipation about the lad as his light burns brighter with every game he misses.

I do actually like the look of the lad, if he can stay fit, but the kudos we give to players when they are not playing is staggering at times.

A few people on here said that about Nkunku, then he actually played and was instantly one of our players

6 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

A few people on here said that about Nkunku, then he actually played and was instantly one of our players

Listen i am not putting the lad down. I like the look of him and pray that he can stay fit and fulfill that potential. Just making the observation about how we seem to pedestal players when they are not playing, sometimes to levels that there is little if any justification for.

I see a lot of outrage regarding the five year deal, but surely they’ve added a clause that limits his payout it they were to sack him early? Or is that breaking some kind of employment law?

3 minutes ago, AndyDowsleftflank said:

I see a lot of outrage regarding the five year deal, but surely they’ve added a clause that limits his payout it they were to sack him early? Or is that breaking some kind of employment law?

I'm sure there's an exit clause for underperformances. Like with Potter. 

ok he gets my backing but i want to see attacking football high tempo. if he watched any of our matches they were the ones we won . sort defence out . bring in another forward. job done.

49 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Not every person in Pep's backroom staff is the next Pep, this is such childish logic

And what if our new guy actually is while others are not?

Maresca has a few factors on his side, he's Italian which historically worked well for us, he was at the right place at the right time which is important if you want to learn from the best and to top if off he was a midfielder that won trophies.

This is the profile that simply fits and that has historically proven to be a winning move for many clubs, it's both fresh and exciting.

17 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

And what if our new guy actually is while others are not?

Maresca has a few factors on his side, he's Italian which historically worked well for us, he was at the right place at the right time which is important if you want to learn from the best and to top if off he was a midfielder that won trophies.

This is the profile that simply fits and that has historically proven to be a winning move for many clubs, it's both fresh and exciting.

You saw that he was assistant to Guardiola for 1 season didn't you. Its good that he has that on his CV but its hardly 

Palmer under Enzo

The only reason to try and hold the ball most of the time is to defend. We were horrible at defending this past season and always vulnerable to counters. We were also horrible in these games we held most of the ball because oppo defended deep and we weren't clever/skilled/experienced/confident enough to score against the bus. Not to mention those games are horrible to watch. 

We are still not clever/skilled/experienced/confident enough to do so, so it predicts Enzo will have hard time drilling our players to score with the possession. That is not a problem against the open attacking sides but half of the table will sit deep. If you want to win something we also need to win the deep sitters. 

Anyway. I hope he does well and this is me just defending my own feelings that are eventually going to get hurt. 

Let's judge him by his work and not his reputation.

I had a lot of concerns about his appointment but since it's happening, I'm going to just look for the positives and back him as manager. 

I think the main issue he has to prioritize on fixing is our defence. I don't think his possession football will be difficult to build onto what POch started in the second half of the season so I'll be expecting a top 4 finish from him.

Other than that I hope he does well and is able to capitalize on his knowledge of Palmer and Lavia.

Edited May 28, 20242 yr by Frankie8Lampard

2 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Each to their own. I am too old now to be arsed watching turgid, boring, sh*t football.

Winning is important, of course it is, but other than winning the final game of a successful boring campaign none of the others are memorable. I still want to be entertained. You say you'd be happy with 38 1-0s but if you were going to the Bridge every home game, paying over £100 a trip to watch 19 systemic boring, drab 1-0 wins it would get old quick. Surely you would crave some level of creativity, some style, some entertainment. As much as we had some train wrecks last season, there were highlights. Frustrating as they were because we didn't win any of them, but Liverpool, Arsenal and man City matches were some of the best that we played all season and yet all three ended up in draws.

I totally agree. I love football but I need to be entertained.  Tapping the ball around without getting anywhere drives me nuts.