14 minutes ago, bluelightening said:

As I said you answered your own question and I dont have to - May I be rude and assert you stop taking drugs and read what people say to you and you wont have to accuse people of having no manners and decorum?

You are welcome to your opinion if you think that what you saw in close to two years playing time with Mudryk shows he is a better player. We will never know because he is currently banned from football because banned drugs were found in his system and while here.... They cant be a seperate matter as the drugs found in his system have stopped him playing for chelsea and the ban he is going through means he'll never fully develop his talent as he will have missed as many as 4 seasons through suspension while Gittens, by simply playing four years competative football, will be better than mudryk, a player who is banned for taking drugs that are banned from football.

So what part of his game was improved by drugs?

I'm very proud of you for working out he's banned. This may come as a shock but his ability can still be compared to someone that isn't banned. John Terry has retired but we can still compare him and say he was a better player than Van Dijk. Lavia is injured but i can still compare him and say he's a better footballer than Enzo. Brian Clough is dead but i can still compare him and say he's a better manager than Maresca.

Open your mind to the possibilities of comparison.

16 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Hey I went off of Machado's analysis of him given I don't watch any football outside of the Prem or Spain.

Who is Machado ? I'm guessing it must be someone on Twitter as I don't use that and I've never heard of him LOL

8 minutes ago, GarnachoCheese said:

So what part of his game was improved by drugs?

I'm very proud of you for working out he's banned. This may come as a shock but his ability can still be compared to someone that isn't banned. John Terry has retired but we can still compare him and say he was a better player than Van Dijk. Lavia is injured but i can still compare him and say he's a better footballer than Enzo. Brian Clough is dead but i can still compare him and say he's a better manager than Maresca.

Open your mind to the possibilities of comparison.

It looks like he was trying to improve recovery times from injury. My opinion doesnt matter, he's banned becuase he was found to have drugs in his system that are banned by football and sport governing bodies. You really should ask them why theyve banned them.

Why should I compare footballers to a non footballer? Mudryk isnt currently a footballer as he is banned. This is simply about you thinking Mudryk is a better player than Gittens so I am comparing both players and select gittens over Mudryk.

Anyhow, Im off to go and rip a massive cone and have a night inhaling the herb, something I choose to do and enjoy and put into my body because im not an elite athlete and dont have to worry about drugs test and being banned from work for taking them. ;-)

(edited disclaimer - Drugs are bad for you if you cant handle them in the same way alcohol isnt a drug but is a drink that can make you fall over if you dont drink responsibly - choose wisely what you put into your body folks)

Edited November 10, 2025Nov 10 by bluelightening

Just now, bluelightening said:

It looks like he was trying to improve recovery times from injury. My opinion doesnt matter, he's banned becuase he was found to have drugs in his system that are banned by football and sport governing bodies. You really should ask them why theyve banned them.

Why should I compare footballers to a non footballer? Mudryk isnt currently a footballer as he is banned. This is simply about you thinking Mudryk is a better player than Gittens so I am comparing both players and select gittens over Mudryk.

Anyhow, Im off to go and rip a massive cone and have a night inhaling the herb, something I choose to do and enjoy and put into my body because im not an elite athlete and dont have to worry about drugs test and being banned from work for taking them. ;-)

Bragging about drug addiction, very strange. I hope you get the help you need.

Just now, GarnachoCheese said:

Bragging about drug addiction, very strange. I hope you get the help you need.

Who said Im addicted? See disclaimer I added because simps like you cant take a joke.

I think we can all come together and acknowledge that Jesse Derry has a much higher ceiling and much lower floor than JJBG and therefore should’ve getting the minutes instead.

Hell at this point in time I’d give Chris Atherton the minutes as well.

We’ve done this wasting time on obvious flops too much recently (see Nicholas Jackson) time to be a little more savvy and sack them off when it’s obvious it’ll never work

28 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Who is Machado ? I'm guessing it must be someone on Twitter as I don't use that and I've never heard of him LOL

Meant @Remodez 😂

31 minutes ago, bluelightening said:

Who said Im addicted? See disclaimer I added because simps like you cant take a joke.

The classic "i'm not addicted, i could stop when ever i want!" whilst inhaling drugs on a Monday.

50 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Meant @Remodez 😂

I'm pretty sure I said his end product needed improving, mainly his shooting. He already has 4 assists in the league in like 500 mins, he got 5 in league all season last year so it's getting better.

7 hours ago, Remodez said:

I'm pretty sure I said his end product needed improving, mainly his shooting. He already has 4 assists in the league in like 500 mins, he got 5 in league all season last year so it's getting better.

It's not Quenda's end product that people should focus on, it's his first touch and ball control.

It is truly outrageous. It is right up there with Juan Mata or David Silva or Joe Cole or Andres Iniesta, even at the age of 18. However, unlike these players, he also is a genuine athlete with the frame of an ox - again, at 18. If wingbacks were still in favour, he would be the perfect one.

Although he's making a name at RW I would not be surprised to see him become a no 10 or forward in the style of Kaka - fast, strong but with a sublime technique and elegance.

7 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

It's not Quenda's end product that people should focus on, it's his first touch and ball control.

It is truly outrageous. It is right up there with Juan Mata or David Silva or Joe Cole or Andres Iniesta, even at the age of 18. However, unlike these players, he also is a genuine athlete with the frame of an ox - again, at 18. If wingbacks were still in favour, he would be the perfect one.

Although he's making a name at RW I would not be surprised to see him become a no 10 or forward in the style of Kaka - fast, strong but with a sublime technique and elegance.

He played as a 10 in the cup and got two goals in that game. Him and Estevao rotating between that RW/AM role in game is going to be special. Would be great to get them both on the pitch with Palmer but all 3 players seem to play the same role.

20 minutes ago, GarnachoCheese said:

He played as a 10 in the cup and got two goals in that game. Him and Estevao rotating between that RW/AM role in game is going to be special. Would be great to get them both on the pitch with Palmer but all 3 players seem to play the same role.

You would think that a creative, forward-thinking, intelligent manager could solve that problem. We've seen it done before with Deco/Ronaldinho/Xavi, or Xavi/Iniesta/Fabregas/Messi, or Duff/Robben/Cole, or Kaka/Pirlo/Seedorf.

Unfortunately, we have Maresca!

8 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

It's not Quenda's end product that people should focus on, it's his first touch and ball control.

It is truly outrageous. It is right up there with Juan Mata or David Silva or Joe Cole or Andres Iniesta, even at the age of 18. However, unlike these players, he also is a genuine athlete with the frame of an ox - again, at 18. If wingbacks were still in favour, he would be the perfect one.

Although he's making a name at RW I would not be surprised to see him become a no 10 or forward in the style of Kaka - fast, strong but with a sublime technique and elegance.

Preaching to the choir mate.

He’s one of the most complete players I’ve seen at that age. I’m focusing on end product cause honestly there’s very little else he can improve on.

18 hours ago, GarnachoCheese said:

The classic "i'm not addicted, i could stop when ever i want!" whilst inhaling drugs on a Monday.

coming from an alcoholic hypocrite no doubt.

Glad you know me well enough to call me an addict, Im reminded of the time I was in Kabul filming an item on the heroin junkies living under a bridge in the west of the city... I can show you what addiction looks like, its motionlessly squatting over a pile of your own poo with a needle sticking out your arm while your six year old daughter begs for money to keep you high... all done away by the Taliban now...

you're saying...

Just now, bluelightening said:

coming from an alcoholic hypocrite no doubt.

Glad you know me well enough to call me an addict, Im reminded of the time I was in Kabul filming an item on the heroin junkies living under a bridge in the west of the city... I can show you what addiction looks like, its motionlessly squatting over a pile of your own poo with a needle sticking out your arm while your six year old daughter begs for money to keep you high... all done away by the Taliban now...

you're saying...

Anyhow nach... Not here to fight my good man... we got a long season ahead and more downs than ups im sure we can all get upset about. Have a lovely day chap... if you are a chap and not a miss. if thats the case, apologies. Enjoy.

3 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

You would think that a creative, forward-thinking, intelligent manager could solve that problem. We've seen it done before with Deco/Ronaldinho/Xavi, or Xavi/Iniesta/Fabregas/Messi, or Duff/Robben/Cole, or Kaka/Pirlo/Seedorf.

Unfortunately, we have Maresca!

You underestimate Maresca.

Quenda in the Gusto CAM role, who says no?

3 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

You underestimate Maresca.

Quenda in the Gusto CAM role, who says no?

Quenda will be making the tea if maresca doesn’t piss off soon!

8 hours ago, bluelightening said:

coming from an alcoholic hypocrite no doubt.

Glad you know me well enough to call me an addict, Im reminded of the time I was in Kabul filming an item on the heroin junkies living under a bridge in the west of the city... I can show you what addiction looks like, its motionlessly squatting over a pile of your own poo with a needle sticking out your arm while your six year old daughter begs for money to keep you high... all done away by the Taliban now...

you're saying...

Weird

On 10/11/2025 at 17:47, GarnachoCheese said:

'especially in Europe'.

Reading the sentence will help in future, Bob.

I just don't expect anybody talking about conference league performance

On 08/11/2025 at 06:08, nonotnowjim said:

Not fair to say Werner couldnt hack it with us. In his first season Werner had 24 (I think - cant remember the exact number I used to parrot) goal contributions. He also won the Champions league. Yes - He missed a load of chances, but he regularly was key to us scoring and winning. I would take a player who did that now!

Timo was a lovely boy, but his problem was is his head. Once he missed a few, he crumbled, and the confidence never returned.

He did win the CL with us. Including a hilarious air shot in the final. !

Tbh , with the nickname " turbo timo" we failed him by not using his pace, poor sod gave up pleading for a pass when there was acres of space for him to run in to. Another player who started off looking good and ends up a nervous wreck

1 hour ago, The Rising Sun said:

He did win the CL with us. Including a hilarious air shot in the final. !

Tbh , with the nickname " turbo timo" we failed him by not using his pace, poor sod gave up pleading for a pass when there was acres of space for him to run in to. Another player who started off looking good and ends up a nervous wreck

But this is exactly what we do with Garnacho and Gittens. They have a great game here or there but where is the structure in place to help them build momentum?

Nice assist, but did nothing before and after that. Still lacking aggression for me. Anybody gets near him and he messes it up.

He's not as daring as you'd expect from a young player trying to prove himself in the PL.

You're up against a 35yr old Kyle Walker, why not run him ragged?

That said, lovely pass for the goal

He’s just not very good truth be told.

He’s not as good as Tyrique George who I spent most of last year begging for a Championship loan because he wasn't at the level required.

Sancho was better last year and he wasn’t exactly great.

Massive transfer fee for 0 squad improvement.

Great cross for the goal, lots of room for improvement but he's getting better. I'd like to see him run at defenders more though he plays very conservatively, although maybe that's more Maresca than him.