I actually think TT sinks us, Kane said after seeing 3 defenders come on we were playing for the 1-0, or no-one told him the captain!

Personally I think we should have changed the front players and if flagging bring up the defenders to half-line to condense the pitch.

Instead it became like Custer's last stand.

It seems like the plan wasn't to sit back, but the players immediately did it after scoring and Argentina pushed forward so much, as it's just natural to drop deeper. And Tuchel wanted to try and stop all the crosses coming in by adding more width to the back line. Unfortunately he sacrificed the midfield for that, which meant they just had so much control they could just keep trying until it worked, and with no out ball because Kane and Bellingham were invisible all game, we couldn't get out.

8 minutes ago, Zeta said:

It seems like the plan wasn't to sit back, but the players immediately did it after scoring and Argentina pushed forward so much, as it's just natural to drop deeper. And Tuchel wanted to try and stop all the crosses coming in by adding more width to the back line. Unfortunately he sacrificed the midfield for that, which meant they just had so much control they could just keep trying until it worked, and with no out ball because Kane and Bellingham were invisible all game, we couldn't get out.

He brought on defenders and 3 of them, as Kane says he thought we were playing out for the 1-0 otherwise he replaces like for like, he did not do this.

Exceptional bad management both in substitutes and team communication.

43 minutes ago, GarnachoCheese said:

After his showing against Spain they'd be doing us a favour. Lacroix worries me.

I agree. He looked quite flat-footed and just not that great in general.

If we are going to throw any money at Palace, just make it for Adam Wharton.

2 hours ago, Nibs said:

I have always liked TT and do rate him as a top coach but boy did he f**k up and lose us that game last night. What happened after we went 1-0 was totally inexcusable. Such negative tactics that totally backfired and was Gareth Southgate level of coaching.

Also think Harry Kane needs to hang up his boots at international level. He might be a great goal scorer but he had another really poor tournament and at 33, his legs look gone at this level. Hate the fact he stays on when the side was crying out for someone who could actually run.

I really wanted to see Watkins run at them couldn't help but think TT wanted to keep Kane on for penalties.

I could not understand the Toney sub, a physical player perhaps ok for counter attack yet by then we were losing.

Argentina did their homework on us and stopped Bellingham and subdued Gordon, Rogers did well for the opening goal yet had not the trickery of a Saka.

To think we started with 4 midfielders, Bellingham, Rice, Anderson and Rogers the only one left was Henderson.

Argentina found another gear and we did not.

It will be interesting final against Spain.

Edited 17 minutes ago17 min by strider6004

Forgot Mainoo.......

Should never have defended a one goal lead. Defending a two goal lead with 25 minutes to go even risky given Argentinas comeback record.

That’s 12 World Cups I’ve seen us in now. Not one final reached.

Well as most people have pointed out Tuchels tactics didn't help but for the most part the players bottled it as they do every tournament. Too scared to play out or push up, always too scared to be the one that might make a mistake and be the next burning effigy. Even Cape Verde had a go. We're the Spurs of international football.