I think the design is very bland. It kinda looks like s toilet bowl from the air. Inside it is nice but unremarkable, apart from the 'kop' end they have added which is nice. Given the blank canvas they have in terms of little site restrictions, I'd be disappointed to have a cookie cutter stadium that is just another Emirates style, off the shelf design. The Chelsea design is far more unique and interesting, and has been created having huge restrictions on design that the Spurs stadium didn't have.

Tottenham unveil their plans, what do we think?

 

61k capacity, including a 17k single-tier home end.

 

For me, looks better than the Emirates and Wembley.

 

They reckon they'll be playing there in 3 years, and it's on the same patch as their current ground ..

 

What can be said other than, it looks like a football stadium? 

 

I'm not particularly fussed by the single tier thing, not sure what the obsession with them is personally? 

 

I'm sure the Spurs fans are chuffed that they'll be getting a spanking new stadium with a good capacity but aesthetically it looks the norm for modern stadiums.

 

Our proposed new stadium is a lot more unique looking but I think that's a consequence of circumstances (wanting to appease the council and residents to get approval) rather than something we intentionally set out to do.

 

If we could have built the standard bowl design as quickly and cheaply as possible on the current site I think the club would have but we're getting something different because that was the solution to the problems presented.   

I think the design is very bland. It kinda looks like s toilet bowl from the air. Inside it is nice but unremarkable, apart from the 'kop' end they have added which is nice. Given the blank canvas they have in terms of little site restrictions, I'd be disappointed to have a cookie cutter stadium that is just another Emirates style, off the shelf design. The Chelsea design is far more unique and interesting, and has been created having huge restrictions on design that the Spurs stadium didn't have.

A toilet bowl?

You're gonna make yourself very popular very quickly around here.

A toilet bowl?

You're gonna make yourself very popular very quickly around here.

 

He's talking about Spurs stadium. 

 

Haz139 We traditionally have a lot of support from Fulham, Chelsea (Worlds end, Lots Road etc) Battersea, Wandsworth, Camberwell etc. A lot of working class people were socially cleansed from many previous working class parts of London, and as in our case a lot of supporters who have a strong family connection to CFC moved out to places like Sutton, Ewell etc. We also have a strong support in parts of Kent, Swanley in particular for some reason. A lot of it has to do with were the trains come in i.e. Victoria and Charing Cross for Kent, which makes getting to Stamford Bridge easier, on the District Line.

 

This is true for many London Clubs, West Ham, Spurs and Arsenal have a lot of supporters in Essex, Hertfordshire, etc. I think its safe to say that most clubs fan base's are still predominantly working class, but those fans no longer live in close proximity to the clubs they support due to the gentrification of London.

 

 So many posh nimby's move in to a previously working class area, and then complain because they don't like living next to a Football club and having to rub shoulders with people who they consider their social inferior every other Saturday during the Football season.

 

A lot of rival fans don't can't make up their minds if we are Hooray Henry's or knuckle dragging Neanderthals, so they try to insult us by calling us both...Thus revealing their own ignorance and sad lack or originality.

Edited July 9, 201511 yr by SHELLY

Don't think anyone mentioned this but according to Tim Rolls (CPT) there's going to be 15000 of corporate seats, which seems like an absurd amount. I think its slightly concerning since we've struggle to generate a good atmosphere as of late. I'm sure many will agree that it would be good to see the east and west stand actually getting involved and backing the team. Watering down both stands with people who aren't there for the football is a real shame. 

Haz139 We traditionally have a lot of support from Fulham, Chelsea (Worlds end, Lots Road etc) Battersea, Wandsworth, Camberwell etc. A lot of working class people were socially cleansed from many previous working class parts of London, and as in our case a lot of supporters who have a strong family connection to CFC moved out to places like Sutton, Ewell etc. We also have a strong support in parts of Kent, Swanley in particular for some reason. A lot of it has to do with were the trains come in i.e. Victoria and Charing Cross for Kent, which makes getting to Stamford Bridge easier, on the District Line.

 

This is true for many London Clubs, West Ham, Spurs and Arsenal have a lot of supporters in Essex, Hertfordshire, etc. I think its safe to say that most clubs fan base's are still predominantly working class, but those fans no longer live in close proximity to the clubs they support due to the gentrification of London.

 

 So many posh nimby's move in to a previously working class area, and then complain because they don't like living next to a Football club and having to rub shoulders with people who they consider their social inferior every other Saturday during the Football season.

 

A lot of rival fans don't can't make up their minds if we are Hooray Henry's or knuckle dragging Neanderthals, so they try to insult us by calling us both...Thus revealing their own ignorance and sad lack or originality.

dont forget were rent boys too

Ha Ha Mike...

He's talking about Spurs stadium.

I was aware of that !

He's gone straight into my top ten posters of all time !

I was aware of that !

He's gone straight into my top ten posters of all time !

 

I just automatically assumed you was in full sarcasm mode DB. 

Love the phrase "gentrification of London"

It didn't seem very gentrified this morning on the way into work...Mad cyclists, distressed walkers and angry bus travellers...

Yeah historically we've always had a big home counties support I'm sure we have more clued up people on this forum then me on that subject

http://www.theshedend.com/topic/26784-areas-you-see-a-lot-of-chelsea-fans/page-1

Thanks for all the replies to my point guys/ladies. As I said not being from London not really sure how the population is spread out etc. thanks again!

He is a final render of what I think our new stamford bridge stadium will look liked based on all known images, feedback from the consultants at chelsea and all you guys!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=125421873&postcount=448

That's a great bit of work.

He is a final render of what I think our new stamford bridge stadium will look liked based on all known images, feedback from the consultants at chelsea and all you guys!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=125421873&postcount=448

 

That's brilliant mate thank you.

 

I've gotta say that if the stadium looks like this I'd be over the moon, a fantastic unique design that steers totally away from the soulless bowl design of the Emirates, Etihad and the new Spurs toilet.

It didn't seem very gentrified this morning on the way into work...Mad cyclists, distressed walkers and angry bus travellers...

Pshaw, gentrified would suggest a plethora of handsome cabs what.

Haz139 We traditionally have a lot of support from Fulham, Chelsea (Worlds end, Lots Road etc) Battersea, Wandsworth, Camberwell etc. A lot of working class people were socially cleansed from many previous working class parts of London, and as in our case a lot of supporters who have a strong family connection to CFC moved out to places like Sutton, Ewell etc. We also have a strong support in parts of Kent, Swanley in particular for some reason. A lot of it has to do with were the trains come in i.e. Victoria and Charing Cross for Kent, which makes getting to Stamford Bridge easier, on the District Line.

 

This is true for many London Clubs, West Ham, Spurs and Arsenal have a lot of supporters in Essex, Hertfordshire, etc. I think its safe to say that most clubs fan base's are still predominantly working class, but those fans no longer live in close proximity to the clubs they support due to the gentrification of London.

 

 So many posh nimby's move in to a previously working class area, and then complain because they don't like living next to a Football club and having to rub shoulders with people who they consider their social inferior every other Saturday during the Football season.

 

A lot of rival fans don't can't make up their minds if we are Hooray Henry's or knuckle dragging Neanderthals, so they try to insult us by calling us both...Thus revealing their own ignorance and sad lack or originality.

It wasn't always 'social cleansing'. A lot of people moved away from those inner London boroughs through choice as they weren't particularly nice places to live in. Back then it was more desirable to get a house in the sticks, but now it is the opposite. If you have a place in Brixton (for example) now you're laughing, but back in the 80s it was hell.

He is a final render of what I think our new stamford bridge stadium will look liked based on all known images, feedback from the consultants at chelsea and all you guys!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=125421873&postcount=448

That looks pretty sweet! But didn't you say a page or so back that you didn't think they'd put a circular roof on as it would block out too much light? Or have I completely misread something.

Would love to see a bit of colour in that image, but regardless, it's looking excellent!

It wasn't always 'social cleansing'. A lot of people moved away from those inner London boroughs through choice as they weren't particularly nice places to live in. Back then it was more desirable to get a house in the sticks, but now it is the opposite. If you have a place in Brixton (for example) now you're laughing, but back in the 80s it was hell.

True enough although I suppose I was really referring to Fulham and Chelsea re: the social cleansing...Lots of people had no chance of getting a council house or being able to afford to buy...Remember what a sh*t hole Notting Hill was look at it now !!!!

True enough although I suppose I was really referring to Fulham and Chelsea re: the social cleansing...Lots of people had no chance of getting a council house or being able to afford to buy...Remember what a sh*t hole Notting Hill was look at it now !!!!

Down here (south east corner) it's Whistable, used to be a seaside dump and the only place that was affordable, it's now dubbed Notting Hill on sea and is beyond the reach of most.

Don't think anyone mentioned this but according to Tim Rolls (CPT) there's going to be 15000 of corporate seats, which seems like an absurd amount. I think its slightly concerning since we've struggle to generate a good atmosphere as of late. I'm sure many will agree that it would be good to see the east and west stand actually getting involved and backing the team. Watering down both stands with people who aren't there for the football is a real shame.

[/quotetim also reckons that leaves us with just 7,000 extra seats for ordinary fans, which is a shame.

Looking at the proposed design it seems like a middle band around the stadium will be corporate, like the Emerites ring of indifference, which will be a disaster for atmosphere.

Let's hope the design etc us tweaked a bit]

Sorry about the cockup posting, new around here.

Edited July 10, 201511 yr by shedupper3

Don't think anyone mentioned this but according to Tim Rolls (CPT) there's going to be 15000 of corporate seats, which seems like an absurd amount. I think its slightly concerning since we've struggle to generate a good atmosphere as of late. I'm sure many will agree that it would be good to see the east and west stand actually getting involved and backing the team. Watering down both stands with people who aren't there for the football is a real shame. 

 

Yes I read that article and I didn't particularly like it. Maybe you can post a link as I've forgotten where it was. For me, he had a sense of entitlement that didn't sit right with me.

 

Roman is paying for this stadium all by himself. That is staggering when you consider it will probably cost nearer £1bn than £500m, all told. That is a sign of his commitment to us, and to his son, whom it seems he will leave the club to when he's old. How many clubs have built grounds since the Taylor Report? How much help have they had? They simply couldn't afford to do it all by themselves. Yes, maybe Fulham Road doesn't need regeneration and maybe we don't require greater transport links but even so, the stadium will improve the neighbourhood, the community, we will be building a walkway from the station to the ground and we will be restoring the bridge on Fulham Road to its former glory. We are going to provide a bit of architecture that has real merit and enhances the area, unlike many of the generic stadiums you see around. All out of Roman's pocket. Yes he can afford it, and in that sense we're lucky, but this will dent a massive hole in his wealth, make no bones about it. At Chelsea, we don't get CPOs to help us expand, unlike other clubs, because the area doesn't need regeneration, we haven't had any help at all with our attempts to move, in fact local government has stood in our way. If it wasn't for Roman we'd be f**ked, we'd be watching all our London rivals move or expand, with lots of help, and we'd be stuck on the same site without any chance to expand, in a ground that has fallen way behind. In an age of FFP, our rivals would grow while we'd fall behind.

 

No help from anybody in our need to move or expand. We're probably unique in that sense. Thank f**k for Roman. In many ways we've been very fortunate to have such a wealthy owner, obviously, but in terms of the stadium issue, we've been very unfortunate, until now, we hope.

 

Why do I say all this? Because if he wants 15000 corporates he can have 15000 corporates as far as I'm concerned, assuming that figure is correct. The ground is there to make money, to help make us competitive, and on average a corporate spectator pays ten times more per game than your non-corporates. That's the figure I was given at the consultation. Ten times more.

 

Right now we have precious few corporates when you compare ourselves to bigger clubs. We get about 5000 in, and the facilities, because of the lack of space, are far inferior to those offered at the Emirates, Old Trafford etc. Also, when West Ham and Tottenham move, they'll have top notch corporate facilities and lots of them. We can't afford to fall behind. Modern stadia are built with this in mind.

 

I say all this because this is where the money is. It's in our interest to get that corporate dollar. That's just the way of the modern game. You ignore the corporate dollar at your peril, sad as that may be.

 

So, right now we "only" have 5000 corporates. An expansion was always going to involve this figure dramatically increasing, to be more in line with other, bigger grounds. What did we expect? If the figure of 15000 is correct, that's a quarter of the new capacity, but that quarter helps keep the other three-quarters paying less, and we still get about 8000 more seats available for general admission, and we know from the consultation that both stands behind the goals will be corporate-free and also that the middle tiers in the East and West won't be exclusively corporate, to avoid the "ring of silence" that exists at Wembley and the Emirates for example.

 

In that article Rolls asked what would happen if demand to watch football decreased? Would we be left with loads of empty corporate seats? The answer is simple. Tickets will become cheaper. It's simple supply-and-demand economics.

 

That's just my take on it. Do we expect Roman to pay for all this, to give us an incredible stadium, to solve our massive stadium issue, and then expect him to bankroll us further by disadvantaging us when it comes to match day revenues, or to ignore the reality of FFP? No he's giving us a bigger ground, hopefully, he's keeping us at SB, hopefully, he's giving us an extra 8000 "cheap" seats, hopefully. 

 

For my money Rolls is being a bit ungrateful. It's not a perfect world. We have to accept reality. We should just be all hoping and praying this comes off.