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When we wasted our 50 million on Torres, they snapped up Suarez.

 

When we appointed one of our old backroom boys in AVB we overlooked another in Brendon Rogers.

 

When they craved for a partner to Suarez we gave them Sturridge for peanuts when it was clear they had a young side blended with experience in Gerrard with a desire to win the Premiership more than any other.

 

Now they are back and a stonger force than they were when they were a thorn in Jose's European side.

 

We cannot let them beat us at Anfield for I fear at 9/2 they could be a decent outside bet for the title with no other commitments like when they last won the European Cup.



When we wasted our 50 million on Torres, they snapped up Suarez.

 

Not true. They'd already signed him. The Torres money went on Andy Carroll



World does not spin around us, so take off the blue tinted specs. Rodgers' hard work made them who they are.

Good manager but we could have made it harder

The purchase of Torres has probably been the worst decision in the history of not only Chelsea, but in Premier League football history.

 

However i'm sick of reading and talking about it. I don't think the dirty dippers will win it this year, and as I just said in the nearest and dearest thread, this season is by far their best chance as they have no European football, City have no CB partner for Kompany, we have no striker, and United have no manager and a sh*t team. All of these situations will most likely change from next season onwards and they'll be back to competing with the Arse for 4th.

They snapped up Suarez, then we wasted £50m on Torres; to be honest Liverpool spent the Torres money on Downing and Carroll, so it could have been much worse if Dalglish/Commoli hadn't been so wasteful.

 

Rogers left us for Watford in November 2008, AVB became our manager more than 2 and a half years later...Rodgers was showing signs of development after winning promotion with Swansea, but it would have been a strange one to appoint him.

 

Sturridge on the other hand was probably as big a mistake as buying Torres IMO, sure Rodgers had Liverpool going in the right direction, but he, Stirling/Coutinho and Suarez up front are pretty lethal.

 

The Anfield match will obviously be pivotal. So far this season we seem to have tripped up at the tricky mid-table away games (Stoke, Villa, Newcastle, Everton albeit higher in the table)- vs Arsenal/Spurs/United/City away we've done better, although have only won one. We'll need a similarly intense performance to that we had at the Etihad I feel, definitely not beyond us, but we'll need our heads screwed on and a tad more luck than we had yesterday.

I feel we are partly responsible, but not because we gave them £50 million for Torres. The Sturridge bit i do agree with.

 

I think we underestimated how much trouble they could cause us by selling Sturridge to them. Does anyone really think that we would have sold Sturridge to them if they were causing as many problems then as they are now? i don't think so. We didn't take them seriously enough and i don't think we were fair or patient enough with Sturridge.

 

I said the day that we sold Sturridge that we would be regretting it and that he would go on to be 20+ goals striker for Liverpool.

 

People say he has an attitude problem, something i have never seen. People say he is greedy, yeah he liked the shot, so what ? he's a striker and he was still learning.

 

I find it odd that so many people are desperate for us to sign Diego Costa but are glad we got rid of Sturridge because they think he is a bit of a dick and greedy. Well Diego Costa is one of the biggest assholes in football right now so i don't really understand why people who want Diego Costa would hate Sturridge.



When we wasted our 50 million on Torres, they snapped up Suarez.

 

When we appointed one of our old backroom boys in AVB we overlooked another in Brendon Rogers.

 

When they craved for a partner to Suarez we gave them Sturridge for peanuts when it was clear they had a young side blended with experience in Gerrard with a desire to win the Premiership more than any other.

 

Now they are back and a stonger force than they were when they were a thorn in Jose's European side.

 

We cannot let them beat us at Anfield for I fear at 9/2 they could be a decent outside bet for the title with no other commitments like when they last won the European Cup.

 

We aren't responsible at all. 

 

For the 50 million we gave them for Torres they bought Carroll, Henderson and Downing. None of them have ever set the world alight. 

 

Brendan Rodgers was the manager of our academy till we let him go in 2008. Yes AVB had a bad time but we won the CL that season and it eventually led to the return of the Mou.  Who would you prefer now Mourinho or Rodgers? and if you want to compare honours

 

Mourinho

 

  Porto (2002–2004) Chelsea (2004–2007) Internazionale (2008–2010) Real Madrid (2010–2013)Individual

 

Brendan Rodgers

 

 

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Swansea City

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Sturridge is having a great season. No one can deny that but he isn't world class. We need world class strikers and in the summer we will buy one.

We have given Liverpool our dead wood and they have had a great season but next season they will return to obscurity.

I wonder if the Suarez Sturridge Sterling show will prove to be as successful next season - it's the nature of the game that teams get wise to what their opponents bring and devise strategies to stifle them.  Mourinho is a master at this, for others it takes a bit longer.

We gifted them Sturridge, while Inter gave them the missing link in creative player - Courtinho (spelling). It was a great signing, provided the player was fit. Not having European matches and got knocked out fairly early in the cups definitely helped their campaign. 

I wonder if the Suarez Sturridge Sterling show will prove to be as successful next season - it's the nature of the game that teams get wise to what their opponents bring and devise strategies to stifle them.  Mourinho is a master at this, for others it takes a bit longer.

 

It does show how far two lethal strikers can carry an otherwise pretty ordinary team. We're the opposite and demonstrate how much a better team can be held back by ineffective strikers. That one of their lethal strikers was ours, and left because he couldn't get a game ahead of the £50m dud we bought from them, does make it more galling.

 

I still don't think the dippers will win the league though, because to do that they have to finish above us and City, which I don't see them doing. One perhaps but not both.



I think it's about time people accepted that Henderson is actually going to be a very good player of them for many years as well.

To clear one thing up ...

Suarez did indeed sign with the Torres money, guess the memory of a few on here is clouded in the dipper mist. He signed in the same January in 2011 for Liverpool and when we signed Fernando. He was his direct replacement.



To be honest, the way they've played their football this season, they deserve it a hell of a lot more than us.

I've lost count of the number of games we've put in half arsed performances, we've very rarely entertained.

I'm just grateful we're back in a title race, last time was when Carlo was here.

Liverpool will still get beat or draw a few more times this season, I guarantee it. It took them 3 penalties to beat a 10 man Utd with the great offence they have. Sure, people will say they COULD have won by more, BUT they didn't. They aren't world beaters and it shows by Arsenal beating them in the cup, Swansea giving them a tough game at anfield scoring 3 against them, drawing against Villa at home. I know our results aren't perfect, but our offensive line is a lot less efficient than Liverpool's right now; so with all the goals they are scoring, they should be beating those lower teams more conclusively. They will slip up a few times before the season is over and it will finally bring their fans crashing back down to earth. 

I agree with the earlier comment about the dippers lack of euro/cup games. Their starting x1 is very good but they've been blessed with no injuries etc coz they've only played 42 games come may. Lets see if that are challenging next year with playing 60+ games a season. When they have a bench containing Moses, aspas and players like that there is no way they can challenge on all 4 fronts. Also Suarez was signed before we signed Torres. Same window but the goofy twat was signed at the beginning!!

Thing is with Liverpool, yes that have an advantage from lack of Europe and next season will be tougher on the squad but the fact that they will have had an impressive season and that they will be in the CL will have an enormous impact on the caliber of players they will be able to attract, I don't know what funds they have available but I'm pretty sure they would be a big contender for the type of players they have not been able to attract for a long time.

 

I fear a dipper revival on a big scale and although annoying because of the media arselicking and their obnoxious fans and obviously a thorn in the sides of us and City will be a bigger blow to the likes of Arsenal and Spurs as that last CL place will be even more highly contested once UTD pull themselves together.



As Chippy points out a CL place and the way Liverpool play will now allow them to bring in the next level of players to now play with the likes of Suarez, Gerrard and co.

We of course have played a part in that with Torres, Sturridge ect but Liverpool took the chance with Rodgers and rode out the tough start and now have reaped the rewards, I doubt we would be so patient so even if we went with Brendan I doubt it would have worked in the same way.

The biggest flaw was selling Sturridge, stupidity and naivety rolled into one that deal.

To clear one thing up ...

Suarez did indeed sign with the Torres money, guess the memory of a few on here is clouded in the dipper mist. He signed in the same January in 2011 for Liverpool and when we signed Fernando. He was his direct replacement.

Suarez had already signed before torres put a transfer request in they were supposed to play together. They spunked the torres money on carrol on deadline day to replace torres.

Not that any of this really matters, the reason they are doing well is down to some good transfers and great management from Rodgers.

Should never have sold sturridge but its not as if he single handedly turned them into contenders.

I'm completely lost as to why sturridge is being classed as a world beater. When he was at Chelsea he got a few chances and blew it. He was greedy and very arrogant. I don't look at stats but I'd be interested to see how many goals he has scored for Liverpool against city, arse and spurs. He wasted countless amounts of chances in great positions for Chelsea in the big games. When the dippers lost to arse in the fa cup this year he done exactly the same. I think it's a classic case of a good player in an average squad. How many players are great in a average team then get a big move and become nobody's. a bit like fellaini at the mancs. Lets see if next year when Liverpool have played 60 games and the managers wise up to his moves if he's doing as well. I'm pretty confident he won't. Would sturridge have done any better then Torres for us this year? I'm not so sure. When the pressure is on in the big games and the pressure is on playing for Chelsea that's when u know how good a player is. At Liverpool he had no expectations. If he got 12 goals then that wud be ok. If he got 2 goals it wouldn't have mattered coz he went there as a nobody. There is no way he will get 30 goals next year playing in the champs lge etc.

Why do people care about Liverpool?

Well aside from their obnoxious fans

The media who love them.

That they are in the top 4 is an achievement and impressive - but it's Man City who are the ones to beat



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