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Stoke Vs Chelsea (EPL) 27th October 19:45GMT

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Sorry mate and no offence intended but that just sounds like sour grapes. It's Chelsea's job to win the game with better tactics than Stoke - you have spent enough on players over the last few years compared to them.

I would say exactly the same about United too. It's no good blaming the opposition when you are losing - it's up to your players to get the result.

 

I accept that we could play better, but there is no doubt that tactics like Stoke's ruin the league. I love tough tackling football, as long as it's fair, but this isn't, it's just dirty tackle after dirty tackle. It goes unpunished too which is just bullsh*t and encourages it. Charlie Adam should be off, simple as that, maybe one more if the ref actually f**king booked one of their players when they cynically foul one of our players.

it seems we have a group of players who cannot compete with physical teams like Stoke and who cannot cut open defences - we're going nowhere without a change of players. forget sacking Jose, do some business in January and avoid relegation

Where is this equalizer going to come from? I just don't see it.

Exactly, not even the Chelsea players know where its coming from.

We arent even a one trick pony. Give jose the Liverpool match, and its basically game by game From there... THIS IS DIRE

In other news Peter Odemwingie apparently still exists - yet further proof that even the very slightest brush with QPR spells death for any serious career in football.

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