pacquiao on suicide watch 
 

Rom knows it, we all know it, we all know what he brings....

...yet some of us are still disappointed.  

Seriously, have you been blinded by Diego's scoring record that you cannot see he plays sh!te for us for like 60% of the season?

35 minutes ago, TrueBlueSeaFC87 said:

Rom knows it, we all know it, we all know what he brings....

...yet some of us are still disappointed.  

Seriously, have you been blinded by Diego's scoring record that you cannot see he plays sh!te for us for like 60% of the season?

This is why I consider CF to be our 3rd highest priority position to upgrade. I just would not choose Rom as the way to do it.

Whether he's the right guy or not I think he would prefer conte to mourinho. He and Jose were a bad fit.

I'll be disappointed if we sign him. I just don't think he's quality and can't be relied on in big moments. 

9 hours ago, RMCM said:

I'm sick of seeing people give Emenalo sh*t every two seconds on here. He doesn't just go out and buy players for the craic. You'd swear he has conversations like this with the manager

Emenalo - 'Oi, Antonio, you want a new striker yeah?' 

Antonio - 'Yes, I repeat,  I like-ah the look of Morata and Aubameyang-ah'

Emenalo - 'Lol ok gonna buy Lukaku for 80 million ttyl'

= ')

As DonAntonio said, the club leads the purchases and sometimes players are brought in that managers didn't really want, Papi,Meireles,Mutu, shevy ... 

Obviously Conte has a discussion with them, but it's time, I feel we have found our man that could be our Fergie and I want the club to believe in him and who he wants.

We should trust our manager and target who Conte wants, if it's Lukaku and he thinks he is the prefect fit then, I will put my tail between my legs and accept his return and hope for the best but it's time the club works towards one direction with the head coach rather than land players he doesn't want.

i personally don't feel he's worth the 70-100 whatever millions we're supposedly going to pay, Lukaku is bad business, would just rather keep Costa and strengthen the rest of the Squad we have a striker than can score, potentially two  with Mitchy We don't really need a striker as of now.

 

 

Lets not deny he is a goal scoring machine, he'll step up the level at Chelsea with the players around him being worldclass and the amount of love he has for our club, also conte will be training him so hes only going to get better at 23. 70 million isnt bad with the overinflated market right now.. 100million bids have been throwing around for Mbappe who is a one season wonder whereas Lukaku has scored over 20 goals a season in the PL.. Am excited if we do manage to get him he scored 26 goals with the likes of Barkley assisting him imagine how much he'll get with Hazard, Pedro, Fabregas assisting him.

He can hold up the ball, good with his head, finish, and can carry a team forward (in evertons case) however his first touch isnt the best but could easily be polished. ManU fans are crying for a striker like lukaku.

11 minutes ago, Blue_candy said:

Lets not deny he is a goal scoring machine, he'll step up the level at Chelsea with the players around him being worldclass and the amount of love he has for our club, also conte will be training him so hes only going to get better at 23. 70 million isnt bad with the overinflated market right now.. 100million bids have been throwing around for Mbappe who is a one season wonder whereas Lukaku has scored over 20 goals a season in the PL.. Am excited if we do manage to get him he scored 26 goals with the likes of Barkley assisting him imagine how much he'll get with Hazard, Pedro, Fabregas assisting him.

He can hold up the ball, good with his head, finish, and can carry a team forward (in evertons case) however his first touch isnt the best but could easily be polished. ManU fans are crying for a striker like lukaku.

Right about the price being fair. The market is out of hand as it is, 70 or 80m is not bad considering his record and most importantly his age along with it. Doesn't help that he plays for an English club but that's part of the reason some of us are confident. 

Also think you're right about United crying out for someone like him which is all the more reason to be in on him. Keeping him away from them only helps us if they are going after him. 

It's done lads. Welcome back Rom

 

9 hours ago, DonAntonio said:

In what ways?

Morata should compensate for Lukaku's lack of technical ability whereas Lukaku has that raw physical presence that Morata dosn't quite possess as well as a poaching ability which I don't think Morata possess naturally.

If you were part of a defensive partnership would you want to face the 2 together.

Well it seems that the negotiations have been conducted in private with none of the Stone's public wrangling...if Lukaku comes back then we need to welcome him and get behind him...

3 hours ago, Blue_candy said:

Lets not deny he is a goal scoring machine, he'll step up the level at Chelsea with the players around him being worldclass and the amount of love he has for our club, also conte will be training him so hes only going to get better at 23. 70 million isnt bad with the overinflated market right now.. 100million bids have been throwing around for Mbappe who is a one season wonder whereas Lukaku has scored over 20 goals a season in the PL.. Am excited if we do manage to get him he scored 26 goals with the likes of Barkley assisting him imagine how much he'll get with Hazard, Pedro, Fabregas assisting him.

He can hold up the ball, good with his head, finish, and can carry a team forward (in evertons case) however his first touch isnt the best but could easily be polished. ManU fans are crying for a striker like lukaku.

Actually he's not great at holding up the ball and quite average in the air, especially considering his size. His touch is quite poor, too. What he does have is good instincts, speed and certainly his finishing has got a lot better in the last few years.

I can understand the club's thinking behind the move. Lukaku is young, PL proven and has an affiliation with the club, so they know what they're getting with him and if he continues to improve and become the first choice striker for years to come, even a big money deal would be well worth it. Top quality strikers are always very few, rarely available and are always costly.

The transfer business has gone crazy now, it's a sellers' market and if you want to improve, you'll have to overpay, in some cases massively. I'm no fan of Romelu because of his limitations but I realize that this may be the signing CFC cannot afford not to make. I just hope that if he does come, that he'll continue to work hard and get better because the pressure to deliver at Chelsea will be enormous.

Edited June 7, 20179 yr by abramovich

Are we sure this club is Chelsea? It could be Ac Milan, it could be United, Arsenal or some other club.

I want him and i like him and i think he will do great for us with our style of play, but i don`t see how we can keep Costa and Lukaku both happy. If Lukaku comes then that`s surely mean Costa will go now or in the winter.

abramovich, Luikaku this season only scored 6 goals with header. Costa for the whole 3 season with us scored totall of 5 goals with header. So Lukaku is a lot better then him in the air. And if you don`t see that i just don`t know.

And he can keep the ball pretty good, hes dribbling is very good as well.

I think he need to grow a little bit and be a more leader to the team. As well he need to bring his defensive contribution big time.

Some statistis between him and Costa:

Lukaku:

Goals Per Match 0.68

Shots 110

Shots On Target 55

Shooting Accuracy % 50%

Big Chances Missed 8

Crosses 45
 

Costa:

Goals Per Match 0.57

Shots 111

Shots On Target 42

Shooting Accuracy % 38%

Big Chances Missed 12

Crosses 9

 

Edited June 7, 20179 yr by brakeit

14 minutes ago, brakeit said:

abramovich, Luikaku this season only scored 6 goals with header. Costa for the whole 3 season with us scored totall of 5 goals with header. So Lukaku is a lot better then him in the air. And if you don`t see that i just don`t know.

And he can keep the ball pretty good, hes dribbling is very good as well.

I think he need to grow a little bit and be a more leader to the team. As well he need to bring his defensive contribution big time.

 

 

Where did I say Costa was good in the air? He isn't. And I stand by my earlier statement. Considering his size, Lukaku is not great in the air.

And yes, he's not great at hold up play, either. He's a better dribbler than Costa, no question.

Costa also does a lot of work off the ball, constantly pressing and harrassing defenders. Lukaku does none of that.

14 hours ago, Duke Von Hammer said:

Oh GAWDDD...

 

Well if we do sign him up I hope it's because Conte wanted him back and not another one of Emenalo o's "f*** what the coach wants  , if it's Conte's choice then I trust him.

I really think it would be terrible business as he's really unpolished and will struggle with his back against the goal and his touch of a rapist and I think for the price tag there's better options out there that will suit us better, Lukaku won't be able to get threw those tight spaces that will show up against us.

I wouldn't pay anything over 50m for him , he would be better at Liverpool etc just would not fit our style of play but let's see, I might have to start praying that he doesn't come back...

You've literally just listed every single incorrect myth possible in a single post, most of which have already been debunked.

a) Emenalo does a great job, deserves more praise.

b) Doesn't struggle with his back to goal, in fact spent most of his season with his back to goal as Everton just lump balls up to him.

c) The first touch, see above point. Improved massively last season. 

d) What better options?

e) Tight spaces, see goal against Chelsea. Walked through a packed defense.

f) Wouldn't fit our style but would fit Liverpool's? Liverpool's high work rate high press style would suit a stereotypically lazy striker?

To conclude, that post was completely nonsensical.  

Costa pressing and harrasing defenders is so overated. Sorry but Torres for example, atleast take away a lot of balls like that. I don`t remember Costa to steal even 1 ball from defender. He really run and chase them, but with not much success.

Of course you need to pressure them, but also you need a little bit success.

And i already said that Lukaku need to bring his defensive contribution to the team.

For the air play i disagree big time.

For example Costa did not even bother to jump for aerial duel. Costa won only 1.3%, while Lukaku is at 3.7%. The difference is huge.

Lukaku is not the complete striker yet, he need to improve on defensive, passes, his first touch recieve and few other things. But he has big room to improve and he is very young.

Costa was no near him at Lukaku age. And who is more likely to improve 24 old young gun or 29 Costa ?

And for the header and air play, Lukaku scored up there with the best header striker in the league. Only Llorente and Benteke scored respectively 8 and 7 goals. Lukaku scored 6. Giroud is also with 6.

Kane, Costa, Ibrahimovic all is way below.

 

 RIP Mourinho, thats simply because people not like him. Probably because was our player and then was sold. And now they are writing and criticize him for everything.

 

 

Edited June 7, 20179 yr by brakeit

I wouldn't be surprised if we buy Lukaku, I have seen £80m mentioned.

With Costa unless an offer comes in he fancies, I see him joining up with Athletico in January and at that time Griezman will likely be available.

If true it would be good to get it resolved early so Conte can't think about who he needs to link up with Lukaku to make it work.

Let's also hope some other business comes in soon, for me another central midfielder strong on defence.

 

I reckon Costas best chance of leaving in the summer is to AC Milan, thats if they dont get Morata, Real aparently want £76m or €90m, which is weirdly around the same money as Costa. We cant, IMO, keep Lukaku and Costa and right now, it does look likely that Lukaku has one foot back in the Stamford Bridge door. Its down to the club to get the deal done ASAP.

I want Lukaku and I'd love if he came back and fired 20+ goals for us in his first season, I think he'd be  huge success because hes hungry to improve himself and hes a Chelsea fan, for him, getting the chance to help his boyhood club to trophies would be huge and I think his attitude to learn and improve himself would be limitless. If we get him in early and Conte gets a full pre-season under Lukakus belt, you'll see a leaner, fitter Lukaku for Chelsea, I think while hes an absolute beast of a man, he could tighten up and drop some weight and make himself more mobile.

You only have to look at the current squad and how fit and trim they are compared to what they were under Jose.

It's a weird situation. I'm not overly excited about signing him but I'm also no overly excited about keeping Costa around. Yes Costa has been great for us, at times. There's no saying next season won't be like 15/16 or the second half of this past season. If Conte wants Lukaku, I'll get behind him and hope he has the motivation to make an impact for the team. 

Every single signing has a risk associated with it due to various reasons, due to difficulty accommodating the team's style of play or settling down in a new Country/City etc. Alongside these difficulties each and every player has limitations however if you consider all things Lukaku will arguably be the signing with the least risk associated with it. He is already affiliated with the club, he guarantees 15 goals per season as a minimum, he is young and for me ticks a lot of boxes.

There is an argument that Morata may suit our play more but if we were to analyse the decision to sign Lukaku or Morata from a rational perspective, Lukaku is by far the better & wiser choice with less risk associated with it.

4 hours ago, PedroMendez said:

Morata should compensate for Lukaku's lack of technical ability whereas Lukaku has that raw physical presence that Morata dosn't quite possess as well as a poaching ability which I don't think Morata possess naturally.

If you were part of a defensive partnership would you want to face the 2 together.

So because one is better at something that the other is sh*t at it makes a devastating striking partnership? Righto, think there might be a but more to it than that. You could even play someone like say hazard with a striker like Lukaku who can compensate fot far more of the attributes he lacks, nothing at all to indicate Lukaku and morata would be a good partnership, was unsure how people arrive at these conclusions hence I asked, still unsure. 

I think the Lukaku Hazard combination could work well...a touch of the old Toshack Keegan magic maybe...

Edited June 7, 20179 yr by doctorblue

Bet the club are furious at Jose for wanting to sell Lukaku and not managing him properly. 

9 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Bet the club are furious at Jose for wanting to sell Lukaku and not managing him properly. 

I still think selling him when we did was the right decision.

We got a very good fee for a player that was still very rough around the edges and we couldn't give him the playing time he that wanted (and needed to continue his development). 

Same with Matic, it wasn't mistake to let him leave because it helped him become a much better player. All you can say is that Chelsea obviously have no qualms and aren't too proud about buying back players we sold if we think it is of a benefit to the club.  

16 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

I still think selling him when we did was the right decision.

We got a very good fee for a player that was still very rough around the edges and we couldn't give him the playing time he that wanted (and needed to continue his development). 

Same with Matic, it wasn't mistake to let him leave because it helped him become a much better player. All you can say is that Chelsea obviously have no qualms and aren't too proud about buying back players we sold if we think it is of a benefit to the club.  

I agree selling him wasn't the worse decision at the time. But no putting in buy back clauses for players with high potential, particularly with Lukaku who was already looking good in the premier league, was very poor. Even if we didn't receive as big of a fee, even if we only bought him back to sell him on again, like madrid are close to doing with morata, it was a no brainer. Hopefully we don't make the same mistake again.

I've heard alot of criticism about lukaku's work rate. It is an area of his game that he will have to improve, which is why I think getting this deal done in time for pre season is vital, as it will give conte time to get Lukaku into the best condition he has ever been in. 

Lukaku can come across as arrogant at times, but from listening to how his coaches and team mates speak about him, I think he is quite humble, and he will be desperate to make it work here, so I would expect to see his work rate both on and off the pitch increase ten fold.