20 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Yup, while Ukraine isn't a member and if it joins there will be American military on the border, that would be the time to invade wouldn't it ?

what was America's reaction to Cuba having Russian missiles in the 60s ?

Biden and his son have previous in Ukraine too, aggression is unacceptable, but to understand it is better than just blindly accepting the narrative.

I'm done with this anyway, come on you BLUES!

 

I think you are connecting dots that don’t have much to do with each other. I don’t think I’m blindly following or accepting anything. I speak Russian, lived there for many years. Have a lot of fondness for Russia in many ways. But you’re right. Fxck arguing about this on here. Back to the extra time and let’s hope we win this! Come on Chels!

11 minutes ago, Dean said:

Wrong. 

😄 😄 😄

1 hour ago, Dean said:

I think you are connecting dots that don’t have much to do with each other. I don’t think I’m blindly following or accepting anything. I speak Russian, lived there for many years. Have a lot of fondness for Russia in many ways. But you’re right. Fxck arguing about this on here. Back to the extra time and let’s hope we win this! Come on Chels!

Thanks mate gutted but so proud of our team tonight.

take care mate

1 minute ago, The Rising Sun said:

Thanks mate gutted but so proud of our team tonight.

take care mate

Yeah one of those games. Can’t fault the performance at all. You take care too!

Now our Trustees have refused to take control because it might break Charity Trust rules   from   R5L

Dunno if it matters ??

54 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Now our Trustees have refused to take control because it might break Charity Trust rules   from   R5L

Dunno if it matters ??

Things are moving so quickly it’s just so hard to tell / keep up 

4 hours ago, The Brit said:

Not even a free kick for an elbow in the face? Think we know what’s going in here today….

wrong thread or is it?

You do have to wonder if the refs don't particularly like the team owned by a Russian right now. The elbow in the face, Trev getting his balls chopped off, the offside call.. hopefully it doesn't continue into our future matches.

16 minutes ago, sonic90 said:

You do have to wonder if the refs don't particularly like the team owned by a Russian right now. The elbow in the face, Trev getting his balls chopped off, the offside call.. hopefully it doesn't continue into our future matches.

Before, during and after. Just get used to it, have come to expect no less from the refs who can interpret the law as well as use VAR to suit their own agendas, and we are the world's most hated warmonger supporting football club right?

Speaking of which, I have read the Chelsea foundation are going to refuse to take over running the club? Incredible they were not asked first by Roman before the statement he put out if true. Shesh makes us look a laughing stock on top of being war criminals in the eyes of every none Chelsea person.

4 hours ago, sonic90 said:

You do have to wonder if the refs don't particularly like the team owned by a Russian right now. The elbow in the face, Trev getting his balls chopped off, the offside call.. hopefully it doesn't continue into our future matches.

To be fair the refs have been pretty consistent in shafting us against some of our domestic rivals for some years now. They are certainly consistent in that respect.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/12040/12553487/gary-neville-says-no-one-has-bought-chelseas-statement-on-roman-abramovichs-stewardship-of-club

Always the Villians, always our fault.

Roman being painted as an evil enabler and is only looking out for his own interest. 

Guess all of us at Chelsea are looked at like the enemies of the free world eh?

34 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/12040/12553487/gary-neville-says-no-one-has-bought-chelseas-statement-on-roman-abramovichs-stewardship-of-club

Always the Villians, always our fault.

Roman being painted as an evil enabler and is only looking out for his own interest. 

Guess all of us at Chelsea are looked at like the enemies of the free world eh?

You need to stop being such a defeatist bro.

10 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

You need to stop being such a defeatist bro.

Mate every day for the past however many days I look to read up on the club I love and everyone and his mother is making out like our owner, board, staff, players and even us fans are as bad as those butchering civilians. 

It is saddening to me to see how much hatred there is towards our club, and how senseless and rage filled a lot of humanity is. 

Foolish of me to be surprised and hurt by it.

5 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Mate every day for the past however many days I look to read up on the club I love and everyone and his mother is making out like our owner, board, staff, players and even us fans are as bad as those butchering civilians. 

It is saddening to me to see how much hatred there is towards our club, and how senseless and rage filled a lot of humanity is. 

Foolish of me to be surprised and hurt by it.

People are jealous of successful people. That is how the world works. Social media has given access to plenty of idiots to voice their "opinions". Don't pay attention to these people as that is what they crave most.

12 minutes ago, RomansRoubles said:

People are jealous of successful people. That is how the world works. Social media has given access to plenty of idiots to voice their "opinions". Don't pay attention to these people as that is what they crave most.

Yeah wish I found it that easy.

Liverpool and City are successful you yet loved by most neutrals.

59 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Mate every day for the past however many days I look to read up on the club I love and everyone and his mother is making out like our owner, board, staff, players and even us fans are as bad as those butchering civilians. 

It is saddening to me to see how much hatred there is towards our club, and how senseless and rage filled a lot of humanity is. 

Foolish of me to be surprised and hurt by it.

You don't need to buy every story that comes along, turn it off, don't read all the negative garbage and also don't get baited into stupid narratives because those that mix the football game with politics and happenings around the world are just clueless anyway. You are a fan of a pretty club that managed to win stuff, a lot of other clubs can't come close to any of that..

If there wasn't a conflict in Eastern Europe would you ever consider them at all, would you consider that all people there, millions of people have never experienced how it is to be a fan of a club that won the CL?
Or let's say we forget about Europe for a second, if you ask me the most passionate football fans come from Brazil and Argentina, do you ever think about them when you see European football, I mean did it ever occurred to you that their best players will always look to go to Europe and if they ever want to see their favorite players they need to wake up at 4 am in order to watch them and to hope that some of them still remember that one day they played for their first club in Argentina or Brazil?
Some might even love the same team as you do but they know that they will maybe never be able to come close to the Bridge ever in their life... How often do we forget just how blessed we are in our current situation regardless of how it is?
Don't worry about how much hatred there is, anyone that has a Christian worldview will tell you that we live in a fallen world right now but despite that you're blessed to have had this journey in life where sometimes your favorite club was so kind to let you forget about other stuff in life and just bring you happiness and joy, maybe for a day, maybe over the course of a weekend or maybe even for a whole week... 

Protect your heart and don't let someone that you probably don't even know to guilt trip you, remember that all that is broadcast or published isn't actually all there is to it but just someone's thoughts or just a stream of a one-sided storyline being pushed by who knows who which in turn is just a fraction of all thoughts in total, after all the population of the Western World is not even 25% of the total world population so who cares? Some make the choice to hate and put a lot of effort in it but ultimately that's all in vain, even evil depends on good in order to exist as evil but the source is good and totally self-sufficient so focus on the source.

11 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

You don't need to buy every story that comes along, turn it off, don't read all the negative garbage and also don't get baited into stupid narratives because those that mix the football game with politics and happenings around the world are just clueless anyway. You are a fan of a pretty club that managed to win stuff, a lot of other clubs can't come close to any of that..

If there wasn't a conflict in Eastern Europe would you ever consider them at all, would you consider that all people there, millions of people have never experienced how it is to be a fan of a club that won the CL?
Or let's say we forget about Europe for a second, if you ask me the most passionate football fans come from Brazil and Argentina, do you ever think about them when you see European football, I mean did it ever occurred to you that their best players will always look to go to Europe and if they ever want to see their favorite players they need to wake up at 4 am in order to watch them and to hope that some of them still remember that one day they played for their first club in Argentina or Brazil?
Some might even love the same team as you do but they know that they will maybe never be able to come close to the Bridge ever in their life... How often do we forget just how blessed we are in our current situation regardless of how it is?
Don't worry about how much hatred there is, anyone that has a Christian worldview will tell you that we live in a fallen world right now but despite that you're blessed to have had this journey in life where sometimes your favorite club was so kind to let you forget about other stuff in life and just bring you happiness and joy, maybe for a day, maybe over the course of a weekend or maybe even for a whole week... 

Protect your heart and don't let someone that you probably don't even know to guilt trip you, remember that all that is broadcast or published isn't actually all there is to it but just someone's thoughts or just a stream of a one-sided storyline being pushed by who knows who which in turn is just a fraction of all thoughts in total, after all the population of the Western World is not even 25% of the total world population so who cares? Some make the choice to hate and put a lot of effort in it but ultimately that's all in vain, even evil depends on good in order to exist as evil but the source is good and totally self-sufficient so focus on the source.

"Oh grant us help against the foe, for vain is the salvation of man! With God we shall do valiantly; it is he who will tread down our foes."

Pslam 108: 12-13

I think it might be healthy for us to step back for a moment and view Roman outside the lens of 'beloved club owner'. I also don't necessarily think that being a generous owner who has bankrolled the unthinkable success we've had over the past 20 years, who loves the club and who is polite to fans in person is necessarily mutally contradictory with being a brutal oligarch: it is possible to be both of those things at the same time. Similarly, you can think well of him for pumping his own money into the infrastructure of one of the poorest oblasts of Russia, and still think ill of him when you consider where the money likely came from.

I don't think the simplification of 'good guy' and 'bad guy' are helpful here. I don't think it is particularly useful to our understanding to contort ourselves trying to defend the [alleged] indefensible activities of a man whom we are incredibly grateful to and fond of for obvious reasons. Considering the political environment in which he rose to prominence, and the 'convenient' deaths which surrounded his rise to power, and also the fact that it is basically impossible to accumulate that much wealth without some [euphemistically] unethical activity.

Consider also that this isn't just about a distant conflict in a foreign country. Putin has made direct attacks on our own democracy, our own state, and is directly responsible for some of the appalling political activity we have been forced to endure recently (Brexit, the criminals currently in charge, the shameless lying with impunity with comes with Trump/Johnson-style rhetoric). If it does turn out that Roman was complicit or a participant in any of this, then as much as I love him for what he's done and continues to do for our club, frankly I want him held accountable too.

Plokoon, this is is all well and good and I can’t really disagree with your assessment. Simply put, Roman Abramovich has been a mostly fantastic owner with an undeniably shady past. Just how shady that past is, remains to be seen. Currently he’s being held guilty by association with Putin and perceived liability for his invasion of the Ukraine. But I have to admit to having no idea why Abramovich would be in favour of Putin’s warmongering.
 

On the other hand, there’s a massive difference between a desire for justice to be done, and slagging off the club for issuing what is a perfectly reasonable statement (pro Russian propaganda, for f**k’s sakes), accompanied by what appears to be an overt desire for the club to be held accountable come what may. 

Coming from rival fans, media hacks, and idiot politicians, this is expected, but from Chelsea fans? 
 

All I’ve got to say is that our success has brought with it some very strange bedfellows.

Edited February 28, 20224 yr by Upsetter

The trustees of Chelsea's charitable foundation have not yet agreed to take control of the club, BBC Sport has learned.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/60549390

This is from yesterday but hopefully we can some clarification today about this as well. 

Interesting development.

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-698891

Edited February 28, 20224 yr by Jezz

Just seen on Sky News that he is attending the peace talks at the request of the Ukraine

 

I can see it now

roman abramovic brokers the peace talks. 

Wins Nobel peace prize

Liverpool fans "DiRtY OiL mOnEy"

Edited February 28, 20224 yr by bisright1

1 hour ago, Fansince65 said:

Just seen on Sky News that he is attending the peace talks at the request of the Ukraine

 

Should ask Didier Drogba to join in, he has experience in this...

10 minutes ago, dkw said:

Should ask Didier Drogba to join in, he has experience in this...

With the Klitschko brothers as a muscular deterrent 😎

Sounds like the club/Roman got ahead of itself with that initial statement about the trustees taking stewardship? They haven't even agreed so right now that looks a bit comical.

Them not being part of the Ukraine-statement that was released after the trustees supposedly had been given the stewardship and care of Chelsea FC is not a good look either..