30 minutes ago, Jon9344 said:

Really good read that and makes me even angrier with what is happening to the club. Its because it Chelsea and its acceptable.... years of jealousy and hatred for us winning it all, seems most are rounding on us to have their moment. I just can't accept the hypocrisy. 

No it isnt....

If you genuinely think that the UK government have taken the war in Ukraine, as an opportunity to target Chelsea out of jealousy, then you really need to do a bit of studying about how government and foreign policy works....

1 hour ago, RMH said:

Fantastic article. And so true. I’ve been banging on about the hypocrisy of this all, but still some in here just don’t seem to care so much for the estimated 10,000 Yemeni children killed by UK and US bombs as they care for the 12 Ukrainian children. Not sure where they see the difference when they say it’s a different situation, it’s horrible in any country, independently of whether it’s Europe or Asia or Africa. But to some, there’s a difference.

Difference is simple.

Saudi, alongside a regional arab coalition, intervened in Yemen at the request of the President of the country following a long civil war in the country that was destabilizing the region.

Russia invaded Ukraine to take over the country for its unilateral gain.

That is the difference.

12 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

The UK government have not sanctioned Chelsea.

The government sanctioned Roman, and in line with the sanctions laws, his assets have been frozen. The government have actually been lenient in allowing Chelsea dispensation to operate at all, as it is well within the governments rights to freeze all assets, including Chelsea.

I understand that people are frustrated due to the impact on Chelsea, but lets not make things up by saying Chelsea have been sanctioned.

I wonder how many people on this forum complaining about the government sanctions actually voted this government into power?

No need to be pedantic. The thrust of the message as impact of sanctions on Roman, thus Chelsea is well understood. 

Government can do what they are doing, that's what governments do. Use powers as they deem fit to get people to toe the line,rightly or wrongly. 

My gripe which I have a right to call out is the sheer hypocrisy in it all. Selective treatment. I have given several examples. 

I guess I'm just fed up of injustice and bullying. They should go toe to toe with Putin if they dare, which it possibly will come to eventually, but this act of sanctions against billionaires who they as well as pockets of the wider British economy have benefited from leaves a sour taste in the mouth. 

Edited March 12, 20224 yr by abister1

The Legend speaks.

9 hours ago, sonic90 said:

I still don't understand how the options were that he can sell the club but get no money or leave it to be frozen and still get no money.

Good point and whoever thought of this is deluded why would he sell the club and get no cash on the other hand if it’s frozen then the fans are being punished I’m not sure how this will pan out but it’s gonna be very messy.

Chelsea are confident that they can get a deal over the line within the ‘next four to six weeks’ due to the high levels of interest from potential buyers.

{The Athletic}

2 hours ago, Zola said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/mar/11/shouldnt-someone-in-football-also-care-about-the-war-in-yemen-just-a-little?s=09

 

Great article 

Cheers for posting it.

'Abramovich disqualified as director by PL board'

http://www.skysports.com/share/12564033

What changes does this make?

49 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Difference is simple.

Saudi, alongside a regional arab coalition, intervened in Yemen at the request of the President of the country following a long civil war in the country that was destabilizing the region.

Russia invaded Ukraine to take over the country for its unilateral gain.

That is the difference.

Russia invaded to defend the Russian speaking people of Donbas, that’s his excuse. The same that the Saudis and their coalition have to kill Yemenis. I’m still waiting for a good explanation of the difference between 10,000 children and 12. 

1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said:

I wonder how many people on this forum complaining about the government sanctions actually voted this government into power?

I’d rather of voted Steve McLaren and Casper eh @Munkworth

1 minute ago, Mod said:

What changes does this make?

According to bbc, the club can’t be sold now.

“The move put the Russian's prospective sale of the club on hold.”

More here, from the Telegraph:

By Ben Rumsby
12 March 2022 â 12:09pm

Roman Abramovich has been disqualified by the Premier League from owning Chelsea after being sanctioned by the Government over Russias invasion of Ukraine.

As revealed by Telegraph Sport, the worlds richest league announced the news on Saturday, forcing him to follow through with his promise to sell the club.

Abramovichs disqualification came two days after the Government granted a licence allowing Chelsea to continue operating while Abramovich remained sanctioned.

That licence was amended on Saturday, almost doubling the amount they were allowed to spend on matchday costs from £500,000 to £900,000.

The Premier League said in a statement: "Following the imposition of sanctions by the UK Government, the Premier League board has disqualified Roman Abramovich as a director of Chelsea Football Club.

"The boards decision does not impact on the clubs ability to train and play its fixtures, as set out under the terms of a licence issued by the Government which expires on 31 May 2022."

The Premier League confirmed the disqualification of an owner would normally trigger a sale of their shareholding.
 

I read that it makes no difference and sale

 continues as planned 

 

Not a fan of Lampard snaking Roman there, expected better from him 

22 minutes ago, RMH said:

According to bbc, the club can’t be sold now.

“The move put the Russian's prospective sale of the club on hold.”

No you are reading it wrong. Here is what it says.

Quote

 

Abramovich had his British assets - including Chelsea - frozen on Thursday as part of the government's response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

The move put the Russian's prospective sale of the club on hold.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60720343

24 minutes ago, Ballack & Blu said:

I’d rather of voted Steve McLaren and Casper eh @Munkworth

This Government sure do seem to be doing a text book destroy and exit job. 

13 minutes ago, coco said:

No you are reading it wrong. Here is what it says.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60720343

Exactly what I said, “The move put the Russian's prospective sale of the club on hold.”.

Though my interpretation could be wrong.

9 minutes ago, RMH said:

Exactly what I said, “The move put the Russian's prospective sale of the club on hold.”.

Though my interpretation could be wrong.

that statement relates to the initial sanction,  not his removal as director:

So - to be clear... The move (to sanction Roman) put the sale on hold....That remains true for the time being, but will be resolved once the club officially request license to sell. 

The new development to remove him as director does not impact his ability to sell (but in fact reinforces the need to sell)

 

 

Edited March 12, 20224 yr by nonotnowjim

32 minutes ago, JM7 said:

I read that it makes no difference and sale

 continues as planned 

Correct. 

1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said:

Difference is simple.

Saudi, alongside a regional arab coalition, intervened in Yemen at the request of the President of the country following a long civil war in the country that was destabilizing the region.

Russia invaded Ukraine to take over the country for its unilateral gain.

That is the difference.

Wooo hold on a moment.

Now I don’t disagree at all with the sanctions placed on RA far from it but your take of what is happening in Yemen is simplistic in the extreme but even then it was an internal matter and Saudi forces have not in any way acted as peacekeepers their intervention has caused huge loss of life and the resultant famine is causing even more loss of life.

But all that aside let’s not truly be ignorant  in terms of how the Saudi Arabia operates in terms of equal rights and indeed human rights, or should I say lack of them nor come to that how the true wealth of countries amongst the Arab nations  that had huge oil reserves did little to truly share that wealth . The individual wealth of some makes some of the Oligarchs look as if they were minor players in all this.

My gripe in terms of the sanctions are that had this truly been thought through the Government could easily have ring fenced income allowing the club to operate as near normal as possible but no

52 minutes ago, Boyne said:

'Abramovich disqualified as director by PL board'

http://www.skysports.com/share/12564033

Such ignorance because RA is neither a director of CFC Ltd or indeed Fordstam.

 

8 minutes ago, terraloon said:

Wooo hold on a moment.

Now I don’t disagree at all with the sanctions placed on RA far from it but your take of what is happening in Yemen is simplistic in the extreme but even then it was an internal matter and Saudi forces have not in any way acted as peacekeepers their intervention has caused huge loss of life and the resultant famine is causing even more loss of life.

But all that aside let’s not truly be ignorant  in terms of how the Saudi Arabia operates in terms of equal rights and indeed human rights, or should I say lack of them nor come to that how the true wealth of countries amongst the Arab nations  that had huge oil reserves did little to truly share that wealth . The individual wealth of some makes some of the Oligarchs look as if they were minor players in all this.

My gripe in terms of the sanctions are that had this truly been thought through the Government could easily have ring fenced income allowing the club to operate as near normal as possible but no

Such ignorance because RA is neither a director of CFC Ltd or indeed Fordstam.

 

I am not condoning Saudi operations in Yemen or their HR record.

The question was what is the difference, and why do the UK differentiate in how they view the conflicts.

I pointed out a very key difference. One Saudi/Arab coalition involvement was at the invitation/request of the Yemen government.  The other is a unilateral decision to invade a country to take it over. That is the difference and a key reason why UK/western foreign policy on the 2 distinct issues would be different.

Again, not condoning any of these conflicts. But as ever, conflating different issues rarely helps, and there is a more nuanced understanding and rationale of foreign policy work that many on here don't seem to grasp. 

Edited March 12, 20224 yr by nonotnowjim

52 minutes ago, RMH said:

According to bbc, the club can’t be sold now.

“The move put the Russian's prospective sale of the club on hold.”

No need to spread fake news.

The move to remove Abramovich as an approved dirextor/ owner has zero impact on clubs ability to be sold.  In fact, it is the opposite, and this move would usually require his shares to be sold in 28 days. 

 

 

 

 

25 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

I am not condoning Saudi operations in Yemen or their HR record.

The question was what is the difference, and why do the UK differentiate in how they view the conflicts.

I pointed out a very key difference. One Saudi/Arab coalition involvement was at the invitation/request of the Yemen government.  The other is a unilateral decision to invade a country to take it over. That is the difference and a key reason why UK/western foreign policy on the 2 distinct issues would be different.

Again, not condoning any of these conflicts. But as ever, conflating different issues rarely helps, and there is a more nuanced understanding and rationale of foreign policy work that many on here don't seem to grasp. 

So let’s talk about Afghanistan and Iraq or how about Libya?.The irony is that most Governments, particularly the US and Uk, will apply one yardstick when it suits and another when it doesn’t.

L

Edited March 12, 20224 yr by terraloon

40 minutes ago, RMH said:

Exactly what I said, “The move put the Russian's prospective sale of the club on hold.”.

Though my interpretation could be wrong.

It is wrong, but i blame the BBC journo who wrote it. He means the initial freeze on assets put the sale of the club on hold" "put" is past tense.