30 minutes ago, RMH said:

So what is it, payback or incompetence?

The news is leaking out about the deal soon, more dirts is coming soon….

psg hates us for dealing this way.

you get an angry player who wants to leave and have to stay. The news said Ziyech would even help paid the deal himself. 
soon the team spirits will go down.

he wont even coming back from Paris right now.😩🤭🤐

In the news they said Chelsea did on purpose.

No money from PSG—> unhappy player —-> wont play for us anymore —-> price drop hard —- > more unhappy player bounding ( auba, havertz, Kouli, Mendy, Pulisic,… ) 

Edited February 2, 20233 yr by Gcgoal2012

31 minutes ago, Gcgoal2012 said:

No money from PSG—> unhappy player —-> wont play for us anymore —-> price drop hard —- > more unhappy player bounding ( auba, havertz, Kouli, Mendy, Pulisic,… ) 

Please let them all stay in Paris with Hakim! (Maybe not Kai, because at least he alone can gather us the same amount as all of the others combined)

The only person I feel bad for in this situation is Ziyech. On the other hand, f**k PSG. They basically wanted to loan a player while we foot the bill and they are complaining as if they were actually going to by him. Ziyech probably won't play with us for the rest of the season but we won't be missing much.

Matt Law on the London is Blue podcast today said that everything was agreed and sorted hours beforehand. PSG have said it’s a circus but it doesn’t seem that way. Matt Law said there’s a whole team of people (lawyers etc) who do the paperwork. Everything was signed but it seemed the final email was never sent (whether through error or a technical glitch). 
 

It’s unfortunate but we’ve all been there. 

Stick him at RW on Friday night and let him take it out on Fulham !

Didn’t the French ligue 1 computer system crash near the deadline?  PSG are making a mountain out of a mole hill, I mean it’s a loan for a player that’s likely to sit on their bench.  Feel for Ziyech but screw PSG.

3 hours ago, DarkMata said:

Didn’t the French ligue 1 computer system crash near the deadline?  PSG are making a mountain out of a mole hill, I mean it’s a loan for a player that’s likely to sit on their bench.  Feel for Ziyech but screw PSG.

That's the point isn't it.

Imagine you get to play alongside Messi in a league that will allow you to shine & you have to accept that because of paperwork not getting completed, you have to sit on the bench & all this after you wanted to spend your own money to make the move happen.

I would be upset too.

 

47 minutes ago, Evenflow20 said:

That's the point isn't it.

Imagine you get to play alongside Messi in a league that will allow you to shine & you have to accept that because of paperwork not getting completed, you have to sit on the bench & all this after you wanted to spend your own money to make the move happen.

I would be upset too.

 

I heard, from an internal source (aka taxi driver) that Chelsea were simply mirroring Ziyech's attitude on the park, half arsed and coasting 

I heard that Todd saw the amount of drive, determination and energy that Ziyech put into the move to PSG, and concluded that if Hakim gave 10% of that effort when playing for Chelsea, then he might be a half decent player.

 

On 01/02/2023 at 23:20, axman2526 said:

"One source in Paris had told Sky Sports: 'Last night was an absolute shambles. Chelsea will not darken PSG's doorstep ever again. This is not how you do business or treat a player.'

 

 

On 02/02/2023 at 02:33, axman2526 said:

Apparently Ziyech contacted Todd personally and was assured everything would be fine and he is "incandescent with rage" at the club and our owners for treating him this way.

The words used are so overdramatic 

12 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

 

The words used are so overdramatic 

I think the media has turned on use once again.  Sky sports now running an article that our youngsters fear being sold due to FFP.  Plus the current bating of managers to have a pop to manufacture an article on our spending.  Makes you sick, and you know if this was Man U or Liverpool they’d be clapping them along. 

21 hours ago, loz said:

I heard, from an internal source (aka taxi driver) that Chelsea were simply mirroring Ziyech's attitude on the park, half arsed and coasting 

Was he internal in you when you had this conversation?

Why start a player who was on the verge of leaving? I don't think we should completely ice him out but this was a bad move by Potter. We should be bedding in our new signings not giving people who are most likely leaving in the summer a chance ahead of them.

Shame he went to PSG

We really missed his creativity today.

Surprised he started, not surprised he was subbed.  

I thought it made a lot of sense to start him. Show him that he wasn't just going to train with the youth squad for six months. 

I think he has a lot of haters but tbh he is one of the few who will put a ball into the box and try something rather than just playing the safe and boring option.

14 hours ago, TimesUpPotter said:

Shame he went to PSG

We really missed his creativity today.

He will plays like this every match from now on. So you better pay him and let him go spending time in Milan with Auba during the Fulham match.

you will see they gonna start becoming a friends with benefits 😂. Auba, Hakim, Kouli, Mendy, Kova, Sterling( if keep him wingback) while Potters keeps selecting :

Mount, Cocu, Havert, …over them. This makes last season problem seems peanuts.

15 hours ago, Spiller86 said:

I thought it made a lot of sense to start him. Show him that he wasn't just going to train with the youth squad for six months. 

I think he has a lot of haters but tbh he is one of the few who will put a ball into the box and try something rather than just playing the safe and boring option.

He’s a one trick pony though. Putting the ball in the box is all he does. He can’t run at defenders and he slows the game down whenever the ball gets to him. My main issue with ziyech is that he isn’t the player we were promised when we signed him. He was supposedly supposed to give us 10+ goals and 10+ assists yet his playing doesn’t seem to match that. Granted we don’t have a striker that can give him but he seems so toothless upfront.

Edited February 4, 20233 yr by Frankie8Lampard

He wasn’t the worse of them lot last night, but he’s totally dispensable. Sterling and Madueke came in and we had more attacking intensity than with him and Mudryk to be honest. And if he’s sulky and doesn’t put in a shift, get him to serve beer at the Shed Lower.

4 hours ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

He’s a one trick pony though. Putting the ball in the box is all he does. He can’t run at defenders and he slows the game down whenever the ball gets to him. My main issue with ziyech is that he isn’t the player we were promised when we signed him. He was supposedly supposed to give us 10+ goals and 10+ assists yet his playing doesn’t seem to match that. Granted we don’t have a striker that can give him but he seems so toothless upfront.

A one trick pony beats a no trick pony every time ! 

I wish him well wherever he goes from here, but he should not be starting for Chelsea.  Wouldn't even be in the 25 man PL squad for me.  We've seen everything he has, or is willing to give for Chelsea.  Sorry but the guy just infuriates me and is so incredibly weak and one dimensional.  

 

Total radio silence on Ziyech. Thought he would be one of the first we would be looking to off-load especially when we came so close in January.

If Pochettino decides he wants Ziyech as part of his plans that will upset a few people I'm sure. Even the thought of starting next season with Ziyech on one wing and Sterling on the other makes me want to vomit.

I don't know what happened with this guy... seemed to start a couple of games when he arrived (looked good to me) and then fell out of favor... how he could have been benched for so long I have no idea... anyway glad things are looking up for him - shame for him the PSG loan didn't go through.

If Pochettino can get in Ziyech's head and get him performing consistently, we could finally get what we thought we were getting !

He's top of the key passes in the stats posted in the Felix thread, despite limited opportunities last season.

Could well be another player that will explode into life once we have a decent centre forward for him to aim at.