25 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

If Pochettino can get in Ziyech's head and get him performing consistently, we could finally get what we thought we were getting !

He's top of the key passes in the stats posted in the Felix thread, despite limited opportunities last season.

Could well be another player that will explode into life once we have a decent centre forward for him to aim at.

He has passing ability, but is so lightweight he makes Jorginho look like Hulk Hogan.

Much of the time he looks like he would much rather be somewhere else other than on a football pitch.

25 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

If Pochettino can get in Ziyech's head and get him performing consistently, we could finally get what we thought we were getting !

He's top of the key passes in the stats posted in the Felix thread, despite limited opportunities last season.

Could well be another player that will explode into life once we have a decent centre forward for him to aim at.

Nope.. he is one of those that flatters to deceive.

 

1 hour ago, just said:

Total radio silence on Ziyech. Thought he would be one of the first we would be looking to off-load especially when we came so close in January.

If Pochettino decides he wants Ziyech as part of his plans that will upset a few people I'm sure. Even the thought of starting next season with Ziyech on one wing and Sterling on the other makes me want to vomit.

Club has been trying to offload him the last 2 summers but he wants a pay rise on his £100k/w wages. No one in their right mind will give him £120k/w & pay a transfer fee.

Ziyech isn't probably Pochettino type player. Ziyech is a player for Italian League. 

I've wanted him gone since he pulled out of a tackle that was 70/30 towards him on the edge of the opposition area, the absolute sh*thouse.

4 hours ago, just said:

He has passing ability, but is so lightweight he makes Jorginho look like Hulk Hogan.

Much of the time he looks like he would much rather be somewhere else other than on a football pitch.

Nicely summed up Just.

We have so many players who have been given loads of opportunities and who should have performed better over the last 2-3 seasons and Ziyech is right at the top of that list. They have run out of chances and the last thing we need is see if they might just get better under a new coach. NO - just f**k Off!!

16 hours ago, Nibs said:

Nicely summed up Just.

We have so many players who have been given loads of opportunities and who should have performed better over the last 2-3 seasons and Ziyech is right at the top of that list. They have run out of chances and the last thing we need is see if they might just get better under a new coach. NO - just f**k Off!!

Plus, he is desperate to get out. Let's get shot please

In talks to join Ronaldos AL Nassar.

Hopefully it means a fee for us. We would need 13.2mill to clear his book value.

3 hours ago, axman2526 said:

In talks to join Ronaldos AL Nassar.

Hopefully it means a fee for us. We would need 13.2mill to clear his book value.

Best transfer of the window..

5 hours ago, Jangz said:

Best transfer of the window..

Kind of, but he should have been one of the easiest to move along.  For me it's an indication of how underwhelming this guy has been when this appears to be the only offer. From what I read he seemed to scupper his move to A**x himself.

Haven't seen the Saudis paid any clubs transfer fees yet for all their big signings, but I suppose there has to be a first, hopefully it's us.

Our murine appearenced friend had three good games for us and those were his first 3 games. Resting on his "laurels" ever since. I wish him nothing but the very worst.

We call this guy West London Messi in our household, purely because of his own ego associated with his wand of a left peg.  I honestly can't stand him as a footballer, so hopefully this all comes together.

Good riddance to the sh*thouse.

2 hours ago, dkw said:

Good riddance to the sh*thouse.

Im sure Ziyech will be glad to see the back of fans like you. He will be earning more millions whilst you will be hear wallowing in your hatred for a player who won trophies for Chelsea!

50 minutes ago, Edjmendy said:

Im sure Ziyech will be glad to see the back of fans like you. He will be earning more millions whilst you will be hear wallowing in your hatred for a player who won trophies for Chelsea!

He couldn't give a crap about you defending him either, it's pathetic. Though not as pathetic as him pulling out of challenges, the sh*thouse.

I have nothing against the guy.. but he should have never been signed.. he wasn’t going to change his playing style for us.. but boy was he poor on some nights.. I remember a UCL game under Tuchel maybe his last and they were close to the Bakayako half against Watford..

14 hours ago, Edjmendy said:

Im sure Ziyech will be glad to see the back of fans like you. He will be earning more millions whilst you will be hear wallowing in your hatred for a player who won trophies for Chelsea!

He didn't win trophies for Chelsea. He made cameo appearances in Chelsea sides that won trophies, contributing very little and was not played regularly by a succession of managers.

He has had sour attitude towards the fans for most of his time here, he has been desperate to get away from the club on numerous occasions  and has only recently shot himself in the foot , once again due to his own decision making.

Weak, lazy, unfit, unprofessional and ultimately an obstruction to younger, more able and more willing players. Please don't let the door hit your entitled ar$e on the way out.

15 hours ago, Edjmendy said:

Im sure Ziyech will be glad to see the back of fans like you. He will be earning more millions whilst you will be hear wallowing in your hatred for a player who won trophies for Chelsea!

Yeah he was a real difference maker in those cup runs wasn’t he. Jesus wept.

3 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

He didn't win trophies for Chelsea. He made cameo appearances in Chelsea sides that won trophies, contributing very little and was not played regularly by a succession of managers.

He has had sour attitude towards the fans for most of his time here, he has been desperate to get away from the club on numerous occasions  and has only recently shot himself in the foot , once again due to his own decision making.

Weak, lazy, unfit, unprofessional and ultimately an obstruction to younger, more able and more willing players. Please don't let the door hit your entitled ar$e on the way out.

 

3 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

He didn't win trophies for Chelsea. He made cameo appearances in Chelsea sides that won trophies, contributing very little and was not played regularly by a succession of managers.

He has had sour attitude towards the fans for most of his time here, he has been desperate to get away from the club on numerous occasions  and has only recently shot himself in the foot , once again due to his own decision making.

Weak, lazy, unfit, unprofessional and ultimately an obstruction to younger, more able and more willing players. Please don't let the door hit your entitled ar$e on the way out.

Cameo appearances like scoring a goal in the Super Cup and having the second most assists in a bad season? 2 goals in 5 appearances for the FA cup and many more... but earning £20m a year is more than enough to make up for the hatred he gets here. Hes so bad yet PSG almost signed him up and AC Milan were interested in him. Ziyech is just the next in line to players like Mikel and Kalou who were always made scapegoats and hated by some Chelsea fans despite the contribution they made to the clubs tophies

2 hours ago, Blue Exile said:

Yeah he was a real difference maker in those cup runs wasn’t he. Jesus wept.

You will weep more when Chelsea is left to scrapping 10-12th places in the league. 

44 minutes ago, Edjmendy said:

You will weep more when Chelsea is left to scrapping 10-12th places in the league. 

Ziyech has had some bad luck with injuries at moments when he showed whathe's capable of. However, none of the managers that he's got at Chelsea felt he either could be fitted into their system, or deserved to be played a decent amount of games in a row. When he played, he generally didn't impress. I think he's from roughly the same mould as Pulisic: good players, but not suited for the EPL or the way Chelsea play. 

Let's not pretend Ziyech can take the game by the scruff of the neck and lead us back into the top 4.

1 hour ago, Edjmendy said:

You will weep more when Chelsea is left to scrapping 10-12th places in the league. 

What because of not having Ziyech in the team? If we do end up in this position next season how many fans or pundits or anybody within the game will be saying, Damn it's because we let Ziyech go.

47 minutes ago, Valerie said:

Ziyech has had some bad luck with injuries at moments when he showed whathe's capable of. However, none of the managers that he's got at Chelsea felt he either could be fitted into their system, or deserved to be played a decent amount of games in a row. When he played, he generally didn't impress. I think he's from roughly the same mould as Pulisic: good players, but not suited for the EPL or the way Chelsea play. 

Let's not pretend Ziyech can take the game by the scruff of the neck and lead us back into the top 4.

The reason I want rid of him has very little to do with his quality and entirely to do with his commitment and effort. Seeing him pull out of challenges was annoying, to then see him do it in a 70-30 his way on the edge of the opponents box in a game had me raging. Its shocking to see a pro player do that, I stand by my comment that hes a sh*thouse.

3 hours ago, Edjmendy said:

You will weep more when Chelsea is left to scrapping 10-12th places in the league. 

Because we have sold that fraud? Ok buddy. 😂

2 hours ago, dkw said:

The reason I want rid of him has very little to do with his quality and entirely to do with his commitment and effort. Seeing him pull out of challenges was annoying, to then see him do it in a 70-30 his way on the edge of the opponents box in a game had me raging. Its shocking to see a pro player do that, I stand by my comment that hes a sh*thouse.

Yeah okay, that too. I thought I'd throw in some nuance