5 hours ago, Valerie said:

Yes.

To the reserves you go!

 

 

Can’t we even sell him for a nominal fee of say £1m just to mitigate the medical issues and risks? Surely we can overcome this rather than have him here for another two years? 

20 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

To the reserves you go!

 

 

Should do our own medical tests. Surley if he is not up the physical demands of his job he is in breach of contract and can be fired?

8 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

 

I think the last thing we want is this clown being anywhere near our impressionable younger players, especially as we are trying to develop a new unified team spirit.

It’s literally the stuff of nightmares to have him of all people stinking up the place within that new group.

I think we will need to give Ziyech time to process this information. cannot have been easy to hear.

very few clubs will risk paying him a big salary, or even a decent one by a footballers standard. So he he likely either accepts getting to go and play in Saudi on likely more money than he gets from us, or he does not player and maybe gets fired.

5 hours ago, axman2526 said:

I think we will need to give Ziyech time to process this information. cannot have been easy to hear.

very few clubs will risk paying him a big salary, or even a decent one by a footballers standard. So he he likely either accepts getting to go and play in Saudi on likely more money than he gets from us, or he does not player and maybe gets fired.

Do we know how much he has been offered by the Saudis now? If the adjusted salary is lower than his Chelsea money, he may opt to stay put and go through the motions at Cobham, hoping he won't play to save his knee and hip.

6 hours ago, axman2526 said:

I think we will need to give Ziyech time to process this information. cannot have been easy to hear.

very few clubs will risk paying him a big salary, or even a decent one by a footballers standard. So he he likely either accepts getting to go and play in Saudi on likely more money than he gets from us, or he does not player and maybe gets fired.

He can't be fired he's under contract. We will need to pay him off for the remainder of his deal if we want rid.

 

So where has this injury come from ? Did we know about it when he was signed and why haven't our medical team 

picked it up previously ,its not as if he's not been injured enough 

 

27 minutes ago, hawkster said:

So where has this injury come from ? Did we know about it when he was signed and why haven't our medical team 

picked it up previously ,its not as if he's not been injured enough 

 

Perhaps it's not an acute injury, but excessive wear and tear.

1 hour ago, Valerie said:

Perhaps it's not an acute injury, but excessive wear and tear.

Certainly not excessive wear and tear with us I would suggest 

2 hours ago, hawkster said:

So where has this injury come from ? Did we know about it when he was signed and why haven't our medical team 

picked it up previously ,its not as if he's not been injured enough 

 

His physique was always so frail looking, chicken legs luxury player with c.ronaldo’s ego who should have raised red flags from the start.

Edited July 1, 20233 yr by Term_X

Ironic isn't it RLC passes his medical yet Ziyech doesn't, did not see that coming. 

6 hours ago, Valerie said:

Do we know how much he has been offered by the Saudis now? If the adjusted salary is lower than his Chelsea money, he may opt to stay put and go through the motions at Cobham, hoping he won't play to save his knee and hip.

True. Without knowing the exact Saudi offer and what he is paid by us you may be right Val.

5 hours ago, Chelsbear said:

He can't be fired he's under contract. We will need to pay him off for the remainder of his deal if we want rid.

 

Likely unless there is a clause for this. I mean if medically he can be disqualified from playing at the level of the PL then I would imagine he cannot fulfill his side of the contract.

I can sympathise with his injuries. If I sit around on my arse not really doing anything for too long my sciatica flairs up and cripples me too. 

Can’t we write him off insurance wise ?

Or did we take out third party fire and theft as opposed to fully comprehensive?

On 01/07/2023 at 05:19, axman2526 said:

Should do our own medical tests. Surley if he is not up the physical demands of his job he is in breach of contract and can be fired?

No, you can't terminate a contract unilaterally for a player being injured. We could offer him mutual termination but he would be entitled to full payment of his contract which would f**k us FFP-wise, and given his age no lawyer worth their salt would advise him to take the offer without a guaranteed offer elsewhere.

8 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

No, you can't terminate a contract unilaterally for a player being injured. We could offer him mutual termination but he would be entitled to full payment of his contract which would f**k us FFP-wise, and given his age no lawyer worth their salt would advise him to take the offer without a guaranteed offer elsewhere.

If he got an offer of a full payment termination of his contract, surely he'd take that now ?  Why wait another 2 years ?

He's more likely to find a new club at age 30, with some injury issues, than age 32 with some injury issues ? 

 I way the club pays him off to leave. Makes zero sense from a player welfare issue, a squad perspective or for FFP.

There will be a club, somewhere , that will take him. Be it on a permanent move  or, if the injury is an issue, a loan with us subsidising the wages. 
 

A team like Fulham, Forest, Sheffield Utd, etc would take him. Ditto clubs in Holland. ditto clubs in France. Ditto clubs in Italy. Ditto clubs in turkey.

Even if we pay 90% of his salary during any loan, it still would be beneficial to paying him off to end his contract early

tf is going on

 

33 minutes ago, NestorGarde said:

tf is going on

 

I suspect taking your phone to opening day training and then taking photos of yourself for sarky social media posts is a) not your wisest choice for an opening statement to your new management team and b) just rubs salt in the wounds as to why we're stuck with you.

Plum

Yes cause the outside of the knees reveal a lot...

9 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Yes cause the outside of the knees reveal a lot...

Is he genuinely a moron, because only a moron would post a photo that basically just says "look, I have knees" to defend him having injuries...

54 minutes ago, dkw said:

Is he genuinely a moron, because only a moron would post a photo that basically just says "look, I have knees" to defend him having injuries...

There are people out there without knees, so he absolutely made sure we know he isn't one of them. I for one kinda knew, but I'm just very sharp in those matters. Good to know Ziyech is thinking of the thickies out there 

 

In other words, he probably is a bit moronic  If not that, he has a unique sense of humour.

The deal might just be back on!!! 🙌🏻

I don't know why clubs go through the hassle of expensive medical tests when all you need to do is show an iphone picture of your body parts. Thanks Hakim!