15 hours ago, Big Nigel said:

needs to go, one of the few players we can get some decent money for and it'll go down as pure profit for FFP

Need is a strong word. He's been better than KK, Fofana, Silva (at times), Cucurella at the back this season. Adds to the homegrown quota. Why would we need to sell one of the better players and keep the worse players?

5 hours ago, ducavis said:

One of the last players we should be selling. We can’t sell all our Crown Jewels for a short term profit, home grown players are sold at a premium in the market. 

No idea why anyone would want him sold, he is a very good squad player, and as long as hes happy knowing thats his situation then theres no reason to "cash in" on him at all.

2 hours ago, dkw said:

No idea why anyone would want him sold, he is a very good squad player, and as long as hes happy knowing thats his situation then theres no reason to "cash in" on him at all.

a lot of fans are just seeing academy players as pure profit at the minute because of FFP without looking at footballing ability. Selling off players like CHO for that reason is fine but we shouldn't be selling players just to balance the books if it will actively weaken the squad. Mount leaving is a travesty, Chalobah going too would be incredibly disappointing. 

3 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Need is a strong word. He's been better than KK, Fofana, Silva (at times), Cucurella at the back this season. Adds to the homegrown quota. Why would we need to sell one of the better players and keep the worse players?

definitely reaching if you think hes been that good, hes been very average from what ive seen. I understand the HG quota, but with colwill coming in, he replaces him in that regard and is a massive upgrade. 

we need to sell off the cobham players for FFP that arent instant starters for us like James is. I personally have never thought chalobah was good enough more than just a squad depth player, but we can find those sort of players elsewhere and its better to sell and make money.

 

 

59 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

a lot of fans are just seeing academy players as pure profit at the minute because of FFP without looking at footballing ability. Selling off players like CHO for that reason is fine but we shouldn't be selling players just to balance the books if it will actively weaken the squad. Mount leaving is a travesty, Chalobah going too would be incredibly disappointing. 

The cobham players who will never really be good enough to warrant starting XI spaces or barely scrape in to the bench should be sold imo. especially after a certain age. Chalobah for me is another loftus cheek, decent to be there and can be a bench player and at times has shown hes good, but better off selling and making money. 

We have plenty of youth players coming through cobham who can sit on the bench instead

5 minutes ago, Big Nigel said:

The cobham players who will never really be good enough to warrant starting XI spaces or barely scrape in to the bench should be sold imo. especially after a certain age. Chalobah for me is another loftus cheek, decent to be there and can be a bench player and at times has shown hes good, but better off selling and making money. 

We have plenty of youth players coming through cobham who can sit on the bench instead

You think Chalobah should be barely scraping the bench? He's been our best CB outside of Badiashile and has been great at RB when needed. Same with RLC, find me another Cobham graduate happy to sit on the bench when needed and there be no real lack of quality when they play. Kovacic has next to no book value anymore, he should be shifted out before RLC. Chalobah should also be kept ahead of KK, Cucurella and i'd even argue Fofana if we want to compete. Colwill/Badiashile/Fofana/Chalobah/(T.Silva) should be the CB's we look to head into next season with.

9 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

You think Chalobah should be barely scraping the bench? He's been our best CB outside of Badiashile and has been great at RB when needed. Same with RLC, find me another Cobham graduate happy to sit on the bench when needed and there be no real lack of quality when they play. Kovacic has next to no book value anymore, he should be shifted out before RLC. Chalobah should also be kept ahead of KK, Cucurella and i'd even argue Fofana if we want to compete. Colwill/Badiashile/Fofana/Chalobah/(T.Silva) should be the CB's we look to head into next season with.

Best CB? hes been nowhere near that. Silva and Badiashille have been far better and even Fofana at times. And you can even argue that koulibaly's best games this season have been far better than chalobah's best games. 

Kovacic already seems to be going, so thats a moot point. But even with just 1 year left on his contract, im hearing numbers around 30-40m for him, so it goes to show how good he was at point and still can be. RLC meanwhile is deadwood and has been for years despite his odd good false hope performance. 

Colwill/Badiashille/Fofana/Silva/Koulibaly are our 5 CB's for next season, and im happy with that for now. Can even throw Cucurella in as a CB in a back 3 if we resort to that. If Koulibaly decides to leave and we are selling him then Chalobah can stay, but I doubt that happens given his wages. But being a right footed, ball playing CB we should keep him imo.

Edited May 17, 20233 yr by Big Nigel

1 minute ago, Big Nigel said:

Best CB? hes been nowhere near that. Silva and Badiashille have been far better and even Fofana at times. And you can even argue that koulibaly's best games this season have been far better than chalobah's best games. 

Kovacic already seems to be going, so thats a moot point. But even with just 1 year left on his contract, im hearing numbers around 30-40m for him, so it goes to show how good he was at point and still can be. RLC meanwhile is deadwood and has been for years despite his odd good false hope performance. 

Colwill/Badiashille/Fofana/Silva/Koulibaly are our 5 CB's for next season, and im happy with that for now. Can even throw Cucurella in as a CB in a back 3 if we resort to that. If Koulibaly decides to leave and we are selling him then Chalobah can stay, but I doubt that happens given his wages.

Outside of Badiashile, yes absolutely. T.Silva and Fofana have had good games but they've also had as many stinkers this season as well as missing 3/4 of the season with injury. Koulibaly's worst games have been far worse than anything Chalobah has ever done and they're far more frequent than his good games.

RLC deadwood? He plays 35 games a season and there's hardly a drop of quality when he plays. What homegrown lads are you wanting to stick on the bench to stunt their development and will offer the same level of performance as RLC? Hall is the only one and he's already in the squad.

KK and Cucu should be the first names we should look to ship in Summer. Not to mention KK is 32 next month, its only downhill from here for a player like him.

39 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Outside of Badiashile, yes absolutely. T.Silva and Fofana have had good games but they've also had as many stinkers this season as well as missing 3/4 of the season with injury. Koulibaly's worst games have been far worse than anything Chalobah has ever done and they're far more frequent than his good games.

RLC deadwood? He plays 35 games a season and there's hardly a drop of quality when he plays. What homegrown lads are you wanting to stick on the bench to stunt their development and will offer the same level of performance as RLC? Hall is the only one and he's already in the squad.

KK and Cucu should be the first names we should look to ship in Summer. Not to mention KK is 32 next month, its only downhill from here for a player like him.

I disagree completely. Thought hes been pretty poor whenever hes played out at RB and even in a back 3 hes looked average at RCB. Hes been okay last couple of games but that doesnt cover for his whole season. Cant really think of any notable performances if im being honest. There have definitely been plenty of stinkers from our defence, but I dont look too deep into that as a lot of them have come under lampard and he couldnt setup a defence to save his life and never has been able to.

RLC 35 games a season?? hes injured most of the time, and has only ever made over 35 appearances a season twice in his whole career so I dont know where you're getting these fake number from. Majority come off the bench as well for a few minutes. 

Like you said Hall is already in the squad, but we also have Chukwuemka who definitely deserves more time, and is actually quite baffling how he hasnt had more time in the last few months. You could also argue Santos if he doesnt get sent out on loan. We're also looking to buy a few new midfielders as well. Would promote Charlie Webster to the first team if possible as he looks a real player and I like the look of Ben Elliot as well. RLC's time has passed and he will never live up to the potential I think its time you realise that. 

Koulibaly and Cucurella have only had 1 season here, and their upside is clear to see despite underperforming to what we all expected. Id give them another season under a proper manager to see how they perform, but if they are still similar this time next year then move them on sure.

 

Edited May 17, 20233 yr by Big Nigel

27 minutes ago, Big Nigel said:

Koulibaly and Cucurella have only had 1 season here, and their upside is clear to see

 

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52 minutes ago, Big Nigel said:

I disagree completely. Thought hes been pretty poor whenever hes played out at RB and even in a back 3 hes looked average at RCB. Hes been okay last couple of games but that doesnt cover for his whole season. Cant really think of any notable performances if im being honest. There have definitely been plenty of stinkers from our defence, but I dont look too deep into that as a lot of them have come under lampard and he couldnt setup a defence to save his life and never has been able to.

RLC 35 games a season?? hes injured most of the time, and has only ever made over 35 appearances a season twice in his whole career so I dont know where you're getting these fake number from. Majority come off the bench as well for a few minutes. 

Like you said Hall is already in the squad, but we also have Chukwuemka who definitely deserves more time, and is actually quite baffling how he hasnt had more time in the last few months. You could also argue Santos if he doesnt get sent out on loan. We're also looking to buy a few new midfielders as well. Would promote Charlie Webster to the first team if possible as he looks a real player and I like the look of Ben Elliot as well. RLC's time has passed and he will never live up to the potential I think its time you realise that. 

Koulibaly and Cucurella have only had 1 season here, and their upside is clear to see despite underperforming to what we all expected. Id give them another season under a proper manager to see how they perform, but if they are still similar this time next year then move them on sure.

 

What games has he been poor in? He's just come off the back of a RB performance where he dominated and set up a goal.

40 appearances in 18/19, Achilles injury in 19/20 which wrote him off for the year, 20/21 made 33 appearances at Fulham getting fitness back, 40 appearances in 21/22 and currently on 30 appearances this season. Outside of the achilles injury he's pretty steady for 35 games a season without any moaning about play time at all.

RLC is better than Chukwuemeka, Santos has zero experience in England and isn't homegrown, Webster isn't as good as RLC, Elliott isn't as good as RLC. So i'll ask again, what player can we include in the squad that wouldn't be a drop in quality when they play?

What upside do Cucurella and KK have exactly? That statement alone makes me question your opinion. Cucurella isn't as good as Chilwell or even Hall at LB and at CB would have Badiashile and Colwill to challenge. KK has shown he can't defend a high line or out wide to save his life, premier league is far too fast for him and he doesn't have the defensive side to his game that T.Silva has to challenge as he gets older with his reading of play. 

36 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

What games has he been poor in? He's just come off the back of a RB performance where he dominated and set up a goal.

40 appearances in 18/19, Achilles injury in 19/20 which wrote him off for the year, 20/21 made 33 appearances at Fulham getting fitness back, 40 appearances in 21/22 and currently on 30 appearances this season. Outside of the achilles injury he's pretty steady for 35 games a season without any moaning about play time at all.

RLC is better than Chukwuemeka, Santos has zero experience in England and isn't homegrown, Webster isn't as good as RLC, Elliott isn't as good as RLC. So i'll ask again, what player can we include in the squad that wouldn't be a drop in quality when they play?

What upside do Cucurella and KK have exactly? That statement alone makes me question your opinion. Cucurella isn't as good as Chilwell or even Hall at LB and at CB would have Badiashile and Colwill to challenge. KK has shown he can't defend a high line or out wide to save his life, premier league is far too fast for him and he doesn't have the defensive side to his game that T.Silva has to challenge as he gets older with his reading of play. 

He was bad against everton from what I remember and nothing too special in those madrid games. You said 35 appearances and hes only hit that number twice. Hes around 30 usually on his good years, but most come from sub appearances and he still spends portions of the season injured.

we are talking about players who are going to get bit part minutes, so it doesnt matter how good you perceive them to be. I would rather give these small minutes here and there throughout the season to younger players instead who actually have the potential to surpass what RLC has achieved in his career so far instead of him. Plus like I said before, we are looking to sign at least 2 midfielders this summer and given potential contract renewals for existing players like Kante and Mount, he'll barely get any mins as it is

Cucurella was player of the year at brighton last season, and we have seen glimpses of what he can do. His passing ability is far clear of what Chilwell and Hall have shown, which I think is key to how we are looking to play. Koulibaly is much the same, we have seen glimpses of how good he can be this season, and I think under a proper manager they will do well. Defenders these days have to do more than just be tackle merchants, they have to be good on the ball and in possession whilst also being good at passing and Koulibaly and Cucurella (on their good days) can do this very well.

Chilwell I think is very overrated personally, if you look at his average position each match, hes one of the most far forward players, even ahead of the likes of our attackers sometimes, so him statpadding a few goals doesnt really mean much when he cant defend and is bad on the ball.

Also im not saying that Cucurella and Koulibaly have been great signings, I just see the potential in them to flourish under a good manager and writing them off completely after 1 year is a bit harsh, especially given at times they have both looked excellent

There may be a scenario where we are forced to sell. With Colwill likely to be added and Silva now staying, we can't have 6 CBs. Koulibaly is now an immovable object considering his wages and the form he displayed over the course of the season. No club will touch him or match his current wages. Chalobah is far likelier able to generate a lot of suitors and will bring in pure profit. 

 

16 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

There may be a scenario where we are forced to sell. With Colwill likely to be added and Silva now staying, we can't have 6 CBs. Koulibaly is now an immovable object considering his wages and the form he displayed over the course of the season. No club will touch him or match his current wages. Chalobah is far likelier able to generate a lot of suitors and will bring in pure profit. 

 

Unfortunately I think you are right here for a couple of reasons.

1. TT and Todd stuck us with another dead duck signings, coping Marinas and TT signing of Lukaku, in Koulibaly. His wages make him hard to move unless we pay part of those wages and loan him. Apparently we want rid of such a system and to loan only youth who need games and won't get them here.

2. It has be published by several sources the Cobham players Pochettino wants to be the core of his squad are James, Mount, Gallagher and Colwill. Not mention of Trev or RLC, so it sounds like they are up for sale.

3. RLC wages make him a tricky sale but he also has only 1 year left. Trev has lower wages and several suitors. Whole we would be lucky to get Milan to cough up 20mill for RLC, we should be able to get more than 30mill for Trev.

Trev should not be sold imo. Pochettino, if he is smart, should see he is set up for CBS for a long time in Badiashile, Colwill, Fofana and Chalobah and use them accordingly.

45 minutes ago, Big Nigel said:

He was bad against everton from what I remember and nothing too special in those madrid games. You said 35 appearances and hes only hit that number twice. Hes around 30 usually on his good years, but most come from sub appearances and he still spends portions of the season injured.

we are talking about players who are going to get bit part minutes, so it doesnt matter how good you perceive them to be. I would rather give these small minutes here and there throughout the season to younger players instead who actually have the potential to surpass what RLC has achieved in his career so far instead of him. Plus like I said before, we are looking to sign at least 2 midfielders this summer and given potential contract renewals for existing players like Kante and Mount, he'll barely get any mins as it is

Cucurella was player of the year at brighton last season, and we have seen glimpses of what he can do. His passing ability is far clear of what Chilwell and Hall have shown, which I think is key to how we are looking to play. Koulibaly is much the same, we have seen glimpses of how good he can be this season, and I think under a proper manager they will do well. Defenders these days have to do more than just be tackle merchants, they have to be good on the ball and in possession whilst also being good at passing and Koulibaly and Cucurella (on their good days) can do this very well.

Chilwell I think is very overrated personally, if you look at his average position each match, hes one of the most far forward players, even ahead of the likes of our attackers sometimes, so him statpadding a few goals doesnt really mean much when he cant defend and is bad on the ball.

Also im not saying that Cucurella and Koulibaly have been great signings, I just see the potential in them to flourish under a good manager and writing them off completely after 1 year is a bit harsh, especially given at times they have both looked excellent

Chalobah was subbed on in the 86th minute against Everton, are you judging him based on a 4 minute cameo? Funny enough it was Koulibaly that f**ked up for Simms scoring the equaliser late on, which backs up my point above about who we should keep over the two. From the number of matches i gave in my previous message, outside of his achilles injury he averages 35.75 games a season (with games left to play this season). Drop it to 30 games a season if you want, it doesn't alter the point i'm trying to make.

We're here to win things, that means having a squad good enough to compete. Chukwuemeka/Santos/Casadei/Webster/Elliott aren't as good as RLC, its as simple as that. I'd rather have the best player on the pitch for the 2200 minutes he played last season and actually win the game than see a substantial drop in quality. If they're good enough, they'll get game time regardless. 

We've seen glimpses of what he can do at another club. Over their career Cucurella has marginally better passing percentage while Chilwell offers more progressive passes, not to mention Chilwell have 50% more goal creating actions per 90. Based on the obvious eye test Cucurella's passing has been bang average too. We create more and concede less when Chilwell is in the team instead of him. As for Koulibaly we have Colwill coming back so don't need someone sat on the bench earning 290k a week. Fofana and Chalobah for RCB with Badiashile and Colwill for LCB and Silva there for experience is good enough and cheaper. Speaking of Cucurella and KK's good days, are we ever going to see this mythological occurrence? 

We concede less goals with Chilwell in the team than Cucurella, what do you mean can't defend? Did you see the Madrid game when Cucurella went AWOL and Chilwell had to try to get back in to cover him? So not only do we defend better with Chilwell we also score more but he's overrated and just stat pads goals. alright.

Writing off academy lads just for profit who have done nothing but impress over two, quite frankly, sh*te signings is more bizarre to me. I want to see the best 18 players in the squad, not which ones have the fanciest names or were good at a previous club. All they do in a Chelsea shirt is what matters to me. 

15 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

We concede less goals with Chilwell in the team than Cucurella, what do you mean can't defend? Did you see the Madrid game when Cucurella went AWOL and Chilwell had to try to get back in to cover him? So not only do we defend better with Chilwell we also score more but he's overrated and just stat pads goals. alright.

Nice soundbite but alas not true !

I imagine this whole table is 90% arse about face for most people's perceptions LOL

2 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Chalobah was subbed on in the 86th minute against Everton, are you judging him based on a 4 minute cameo? Funny enough it was Koulibaly that f**ked up for Simms scoring the equaliser late on, which backs up my point above about who we should keep over the two. From the number of matches i gave in my previous message, outside of his achilles injury he averages 35.75 games a season (with games left to play this season). Drop it to 30 games a season if you want, it doesn't alter the point i'm trying to make.

We're here to win things, that means having a squad good enough to compete. Chukwuemeka/Santos/Casadei/Webster/Elliott aren't as good as RLC, its as simple as that. I'd rather have the best player on the pitch for the 2200 minutes he played last season and actually win the game than see a substantial drop in quality. If they're good enough, they'll get game time regardless. 

We've seen glimpses of what he can do at another club. Over their career Cucurella has marginally better passing percentage while Chilwell offers more progressive passes, not to mention Chilwell have 50% more goal creating actions per 90. Based on the obvious eye test Cucurella's passing has been bang average too. We create more and concede less when Chilwell is in the team instead of him. As for Koulibaly we have Colwill coming back so don't need someone sat on the bench earning 290k a week. Fofana and Chalobah for RCB with Badiashile and Colwill for LCB and Silva there for experience is good enough and cheaper. Speaking of Cucurella and KK's good days, are we ever going to see this mythological occurrence? 

We concede less goals with Chilwell in the team than Cucurella, what do you mean can't defend? Did you see the Madrid game when Cucurella went AWOL and Chilwell had to try to get back in to cover him? So not only do we defend better with Chilwell we also score more but he's overrated and just stat pads goals. alright.

Writing off academy lads just for profit who have done nothing but impress over two, quite frankly, sh*te signings is more bizarre to me. I want to see the best 18 players in the squad, not which ones have the fanciest names or were good at a previous club. All they do in a Chelsea shirt is what matters to me. 

Maybe it wasnt everton then, but one of the games recently. Ill have to rewatch some highlights to see which one it was but either way not great. 

we are here to win things, but expecting that next season is silly when its very clearly going to be a season to build on. Top 4 plus some decent cup runs is about the best we can hope for at this point. I would much rather give the chances to younger players and get rid of RLC and his way overpaid 100k wages. 

as @Sexyfootball has already shown, you have just made up fake stats to prove your false claims. We conceded more with chilwell in the team haha. Chiwell spends most the match in the opponents penalty box trying to score goals, and as a fullback he shouldnt be near there half as much as he is really. Scoring a couple of goals doesnt cover for the fact that as a LB he isnt very good. 

Im not writing off academy lads, im saying we should promote the better, younger ones with much higher ceilings than some of the washed bunch we have right now that have failed to live up to expectations such as rlc, chalobah, gallagher, cho.. the list is long

5 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

What games has he been poor in? He's just come off the back of a RB performance where he dominated and set up a goal.

40 appearances in 18/19, Achilles injury in 19/20 which wrote him off for the year, 20/21 made 33 appearances at Fulham getting fitness back, 40 appearances in 21/22 and currently on 30 appearances this season. Outside of the achilles injury he's pretty steady for 35 games a season without any moaning about play time at all.

RLC is better than Chukwuemeka, Santos has zero experience in England and isn't homegrown, Webster isn't as good as RLC, Elliott isn't as good as RLC. So i'll ask again, what player can we include in the squad that wouldn't be a drop in quality when they play?

What upside do Cucurella and KK have exactly? That statement alone makes me question your opinion. Cucurella isn't as good as Chilwell or even Hall at LB and at CB would have Badiashile and Colwill to challenge. KK has shown he can't defend a high line or out wide to save his life, premier league is far too fast for him and he doesn't have the defensive side to his game that T.Silva has to challenge as he gets older with his reading of play. 

Sorry RIP, but no way has Chalobah been anywhere near Silva's level (Silva clear player of the season) and I'd have him behind Fofana and Badiashshile too and obviously Colwill next season.

Handy squad player (which is pretty much how he's been used this season), but unlikely to be a starter too often. Have to admit he gives me the shudders too at times as attackers often turn him inside out and he often makes rash challenges. Obviously be down to Pochettino once he has had a chance to assess the squad but I wouldn't be surprised if he was moved on.

13 hours ago, Big Nigel said:

Maybe it wasnt everton then, but one of the games recently. Ill have to rewatch some highlights to see which one it was but either way not great. 

we are here to win things, but expecting that next season is silly when its very clearly going to be a season to build on. Top 4 plus some decent cup runs is about the best we can hope for at this point. I would much rather give the chances to younger players and get rid of RLC and his way overpaid 100k wages. 

as @Sexyfootball has already shown, you have just made up fake stats to prove your false claims. We conceded more with chilwell in the team haha. Chiwell spends most the match in the opponents penalty box trying to score goals, and as a fullback he shouldnt be near there half as much as he is really. Scoring a couple of goals doesnt cover for the fact that as a LB he isnt very good. 

Im not writing off academy lads, im saying we should promote the better, younger ones with much higher ceilings than some of the washed bunch we have right now that have failed to live up to expectations such as rlc, chalobah, gallagher, cho.. the list is long

The next two to three seasons are going to be years to build on things, what are we building with a 32 year old CB though? We're more likely to be competitive and achieve top 4 with Chalobah and RLC over Koulibaly and 18 year olds without a single minute of adult football.

I was looking at their entire premier league careers, not just this season. So this season we conceded 0.07 goals more with Chilwell (marginal) on the pitch yet the offensive output heavily favours Chilwell. 4 G/A's in the Premier league in nearly 5000 minutes whereas Chilwell 31 G/A's in 12,400 minutes. Do the maths yourself but the evidence is all there. (for reference this time: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/vergleich/spielervergleich/statistik/def/spieler/284857&316125) Cucurella has spent as much of his career as a wing back as Chilwell with next to nothing to show for it, Chilwell spent as much time at LB as Cucu at Leicester and with us and is much more effective. What kind of archaic view of football do you have that makes you believe football shouldn't be in the box? Cucurella's best games for us have been at CB too, says a lot about him as a 'LB'.

Gallagher lmao. He's had less than a season with the club and you've concluded he's washed based on his performances but want to keep Cucurella and KK because 'we should see what they can do under a proper manager'. Just hypocritical at this point. CHO is literally the only player you mentioned that could be considered washed but still a weird thing to call your own player. 

12 hours ago, Nibs said:

Sorry RIP, but no way has Chalobah been anywhere near Silva's level (Silva clear player of the season) and I'd have him behind Fofana and Badiashshile too and obviously Colwill next season.

Handy squad player (which is pretty much how he's been used this season), but unlikely to be a starter too often. Have to admit he gives me the shudders too at times as attackers often turn him inside out and he often makes rash challenges. Obviously be down to Pochettino once he has had a chance to assess the squad but I wouldn't be surprised if he was moved on.

Haven't you just agreed with what i said? I've read back what you quoted and can't see where i've said Chalobah has been better than Silva this season. I said the 5 CB's back next season should be Colwill/Badiashile LCB (both left footed and young), Fofana/Chalobah RCB (both right footed and young) and then retain Thiago Silva for experience sprinkled in where needed, whether that be in the middle of a back 3 or next to one of the younger heads in a back 4. My argument is KK has no place in the squad.

4 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Haven't you just agreed with what i said? I've read back what you quoted and can't see where i've said Chalobah has been better than Silva this season. I said the 5 CB's back next season should be Colwill/Badiashile LCB (both left footed and young), Fofana/Chalobah RCB (both right footed and young) and then retain Thiago Silva for experience sprinkled in where needed, whether that be in the middle of a back 3 or next to one of the younger heads in a back 4. My argument is KK has no place in the squad.

It was just in one of your posts where you mentioned Silva has had some stinkers (there hasn't been a CFC player who hasn't this season but Silva has had less than anyone) and you also actually said "He's been our best CB outside of Badiashile"

Sorry, that is just plain wrong as he's been nothing of the sort. Agree with you on Koulibally though and would be happy to see him moved on in the summer.

 

2 hours ago, Nibs said:

It was just in one of your posts where you mentioned Silva has had some stinkers (there hasn't been a CFC player who hasn't this season but Silva has had less than anyone) and you also actually said "He's been our best CB outside of Badiashile"

Sorry, that is just plain wrong as he's been nothing of the sort. Agree with you on Koulibally though and would be happy to see him moved on in the summer.

 

My point was more other players lows have been lower than anything Chalobah has performed, but he's the one people want gone. Probably harsh in hindsight but standing by my original stance that Chalobah shouldn't be shifted just for easy profit. 

On 18/05/2023 at 00:52, Sexyfootball said:

Nice soundbite but alas not true !

I imagine this whole table is 90% arse about face for most people's perceptions LOL

You cannot draw valid conclusions from this sort of data because any metric that tries to quantify a footballer's contribution to a team is destined to fail. 

A statistic like VORP used in NFL/NHL/NBA works because of the interchange system and the characteristics of those sports which create a lot of usable data, testable situations and a large sample size. The variance when applying a similar approach to football is too huge, and it doesn't work save to enable people's confirmation biases.

Matt Law is saying that he “expects Choblah” to be sold this summer. His reason is that he is too good to sit on our bench. 
 

Im a big fan of Trev and he is definitely a useful squad player who can play in multiple positions. 

 

1 hour ago, JM7 said:

Matt Law is saying that he “expects Choblah” to be sold this summer. His reason is that he is too good to sit on our bench. 
 

Im a big fan of Trev and he is definitely a useful squad player who can play in multiple positions. 

I'm really confused, it feels like we are selling all of our homegrown players.