31 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Sacking Tuchel wasn't a mistake. It was when we sacked him and then avertedly replacing him with Potter that was the mistake. 

The new owners have done a great job in terms of signing very exciting players, but their choice of the manager makes all that irrelevant right now.

Just now, Gol15 said:

The new owners have done a great job in terms of signing very exciting players, but their choice of the manager makes all that irrelevant right now.

Which is why in the Boehly thread I was questioning who was all involved in the process of hiring Potter?

If Vivell was involved, I am a bit concerned....

Just now, Scott Harris said:

There is no way he was worse. Results back that up. 

Potter's first 17 league games in charge = 5 wins, 6 draws and 6 defeats. 16 goals scored and 14 conceded.

Arteta's first 17 league games in charge = 7 wins, 7 draws, and 3 defeats. 24 goals scored and 15 goals conceded.

As bad as Arteta was to begin with, Potter has proven himself to be even worse. Everything backs that up to this point.

And that was shortly before the period Arteta went on a run of like 1 win in 10 scoring 5 goals 2 of them penalties.

He was also playing football like Pulis' Stoke and not even playing the youth/players to build the future team around while singing Holding, Luiz etc to new deals even offering Mustafi the same. As sh*t as we are we still get the odd eye pleasing performance while playing players that will shape the future of the side.

4 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Which is why in the Boehly thread I was questioning who was all involved in the process of hiring Potter?

If Vivell was involved, I am a bit concerned....

He wasn’t even here then was he? Potter came in September and Vivell in December, and Vivell wasn’t even a name we were linked with until October/ November time I think. 

13 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

Whatever decision they end up making, I don't envy them. If they stick with Potter and results don't improve, fans will continue turning on the team and the atmosphere is going to get toxic during our games. They fire Potter and they are going to get ridiculed by the media for not following along with their "project" and people like Nevile are going to go on about American owners not knowing anything about football etc. They are really going to have to come up with some really good PR regardless of what decision they make. Wouldn't be surprised if Potter gets thrown under the bus should they sack him.

I don't think that's true.

1) the media are irrelevant, If Boehly is so pathetic he cares about the media reaction to his decisions when he needs to sell this football club immediately.

2) I don't think anyone would care about Potter being fired, his record is so bad it simply isn't even defendable by his mates in the media.

I've noticed it online even the most looney Potter supporters don't even defend Potter they instead just say things like Arteta or talk about time and processes because they can't point to a single positive Graham has brought to the club his time here is simply indefensible it's actually got to the point so bad Potter got asked about being the worst manager in the clubs history in his post match today.

3) if Boehly is serious about winning I imagine the penny has dropped by now it will never happen with Potter, he's spent a lot of money on this squad and won't want to see it never qualify for the CL which it has no chance of doing in the next 5 years without a change of manager.

He's comfortably the worst manager to ever manage a big 6 club in the Premier league era by every metric.

But I think the main reason Potter will be sacked is because Bohely knows if he doesn't sack him the supporters will turn on the ownership.

Every social media post by the club on every platform is just a constant barrage of Potter out, bring back Tuchel or blaming Boehly and wanting Roman back and it's the latter that Clearlake won't want to fester.

Edited February 18, 20233 yr by TimesUpPotter

5 minutes ago, Argo said:

And that was shortly before the period Arteta went on a run of like 1 win in 10 scoring 5 goals 2 of them penalties.

He was also playing football like Pulis' Stoke and not even playing the youth/players to build the future team around while singing Holding, Luiz etc to new deals even offering Mustafi the same. As sh*t as we are we still get the odd eye pleasing performance while playing players that will shape the future of the side.

Difference is Arteta had just started management, Potter has been managing for 10+ years and he's still sh*te. Not to mention Arsenal were barely even a Europa League team when Arteta took over, wheras we were a Champions League team when Potter joined.

A lot of the decisions they made before waiting for the new sporting director(s) to come in, are questionable.

Signing some duds, sacking Tuchel, hiring Potter.

Why couldn't they have waited until they had more knowledgeable people in place before making this sort of decision?

He actually had the nerve to say the second half was "really good".

You take us for fools Graham. Please do the honorable thing and resign.

 

7 minutes ago, Argo said:

And that was shortly before the period Arteta went on a run of like 1 win in 10 scoring 5 goals 2 of them penalties.

He was also playing football like Pulis' Stoke and not even playing the youth/players to build the future team around while singing Holding, Luiz etc to new deals even offering Mustafi the same. As sh*t as we are we still get the odd eye pleasing performance while playing players that will shape the future of the side.

He also had a much weaker team too. Not sure why Arteta even gets brought up. Not every manager succeeds with time. 

Bloke gone and said it isn't my fault. 

Yeah i'm signing off 

12 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Which is why in the Boehly thread I was questioning who was all involved in the process of hiring Potter?

If Vivell was involved, I am a bit concerned....

I hope we all agree that Potter is not the main culprit, but those who appointed him. He didn.t just walk in and appointed himself.

'Told no change in Chelsea board’s position on Graham Potter. They are still backing him.' - @Matt_Law_DT

 

Ffs

Just now, Drogba1 said:

'Told no change in Chelsea board’s position on Graham Potter. They are still backing him.' - @Matt_Law_DT

 

Ffs

Honestly the fans need to do what Southampton fans did to Nathan Jones, otherwise we're going to be stuck with this clown for the long haul

Just now, Drogba1 said:

Honestly the fans need to do what Southampton fans did to Nathan Jones, otherwise we're going to be stuck with this clown for the long haul

100%.

If the idiots don't see it we'll have to make it obvious to them.

2 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

'Told no change in Chelsea board’s position on Graham Potter. They are still backing him.' - @Matt_Law_DT

 

Ffs

For what its worth any board will continue to say that right until the moment that a manager is sacked. I can't remember a board telling the press that a manager is on their last warning or equivalent. 

1 minute ago, forbzy said:

For what its worth any board will continue to say that right until the moment that a manager is sacked. I can't remember a board telling the press that a manager is on their last warning or equivalent. 

I was hoping he'd be gone tonight to be honest, how many more embarassing performances is it going to take?

Just saw his post match presser this man is not a top level manager he’s puppy and we need a Lion in charge. 

I don’t give a sh*te what is said behind closed doors show some f**king passion he’s is just so flaccid and meek. He also know he’s not getting sacked so he will continue the same way.

The board will realise soon enough he will have to go when it becomes toxic at the bridge.

Utterly delusional post match interview

34 minutes ago, forbzy said:

Regardless of the consensus on here it looks like the owners will at least give Potter this season. I am sure the atmosphere will get more toxic if results don't improve, but so far the board seem to be determined to stand behind their decision.

They have little option. Even the most bullish of entrepreneurs would struggle to swallow writing off £12m after 6 months, let alone what it could be if Boehly didn't have some damage limitation to the possible financial costs of an early sacking

2 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Honestly the fans need to do what Southampton fans did to Nathan Jones, otherwise we're going to be stuck with this clown for the long haul

I wish I could go and watch Chelsea live, our home fans are as sh*t as our performances. What will it take for them to make some noise? I know the performances are bad, but I am jumping off my seat with anger at this sh*t. Back the team or get angry with them, whatever it takes, show some emotion instead of standing or sitting there in silence. I can almost see where @coco was coming from with his comments earlier. It's like our fans don't even care. Where has the noise gone at Stamford Bridge?

Potter: “I’m sure there will be people out there that think I’m the problem. I don’t think they’re right but I’m not arrogant enough to say their opinion isn’t worth articulating”. 🔵 #CFC

“I’m here to help the team, keep working through a team period”.
 

What’s he trying to say here?

1 minute ago, Drogba1 said:

I was hoping he'd be gone tonight to be honest, how many more embarassing performances is it going to take?

I would say if Potter is still in the job following the second leg against Dortmund then he will likely get the rest of the season. Before Dortmund we have 2 games with big rivalries associated (Spurs and Leeds) so depending on the results either Potter builds a bit of goodwill from the fans (if we pull off a surprise and actually win), or the atmosphere just gets uglier.

7 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

'Told no change in Chelsea board’s position on Graham Potter. They are still backing him.' - @Matt_Law_DT

 

Ffs

They not exactly going to let that leak that they are losing confidence are they, I have never heard a board say we are losing confidence and the sack a manager, what I always hear is “We have full confidence” then he’s gone.

8 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Difference is Arteta had just started management, Potter has been managing for 10+ years and he's still sh*te. Not to mention Arsenal were barely even a Europa League team when Arteta took over, wheras we were a Champions League team when Potter joined.

This is always my thought process. You can't keep calling a manager with over a decade in management a new or young manager. Lampard has been a manager for about half the duration and as sh*t as he was, his Chelsea did better. Arteta on his first gig, and several others younger than him in this profession also have a better record so if that's the criteria ie a young up and coming manager, he doesn't even meet it. 

Nothing in a decade long management has shown him to be anything other than a bottom half team manager.  I guess getting Brighton to 9th was him over performing. 

I'm not even saying Potter out because he will be put eventually, what I can't fathom is the thinking behind his appointment in the first place. 

It didn't make sense even then, please someone help me understand it. 

Boehly is a monumental f**k up, sh*t show of a performance. People say Roman didn't give interviews or was ruthless or overspent on duds, one thing he never ever did was give the wrong signal that it was okay to be just another team making up the numbers. 

Hence even oppo fans would say no matter how sh*t of a season Chelsea were having you knew their next title wss around the corner, be it a cup or something else. 

10 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

100%.

If the idiots don't see it we'll have to make it obvious to them.

If you're doing it in seats you're paying them for they won't care.

The only language billionaire owners understand is cash, the only way fans could force a chance is if Stamford Bridge is half empty with a clear message it won't fill up again until they get the change they want.

Otherwise they'll be too busy counting the £70 you've just given them for a ticket and a further £5 for a half time hot dog.

Edited February 18, 20233 yr by Argo

We’re assuming that the club are happy to write this season off. We don’t know whether they are or not but in American sports, that is a tactic of theirs. They tank the season in order to build for next season. It’s unheard of here. 
 

Or maybe they’re not given the money spent. My bet is that they’re willing to ride it through. They promised Potter that when he signed up and whether top 4 was critical.