3 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Does anyone know what the league table since Potter took over would look like? 21 points in 17 games is awful

To be fair he did have a fair bit go against him early on with injuries. But now with the players we've bought the results have to start coming. We had arguably a worse front three last season but managed to do better and pick up results. Not sure if that was solely on Tuchel, but James was performing well and Giroud was up top. 

Interesting how we all thought bringing in the names we brought in would help us score goals. I guess spending £600m doesn't get you goals these days lol

If Potter does get sacked, am i right in saying we would of spent over 60m this season just on paying off managers and whatever else for the backroom staff?

2 minutes ago, enigma said:

I don't know the answer. Only those above will know what to do. Unfortunately not getting 3 points from the bottom side at home is really poor. We have a good enough team there to beat them. Be nice if we could score goals ffs. 

Do they though? I mean, they were the ones that put him in charge and told everybody the club was a mess. They have made right mugs of the fans that bought into that line of thinking.

Just now, Scott Harris said:

Do they though? I mean, they were the ones that put him in charge and told everybody the club was a mess. They have made right mugs of the fans that bought into that line of thinking.

Think Vivell wasn’t involved in that. 

12 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

How can you ever think that Potter was dealt one of the worst hands by coming to a top 4 team and with having over 300m further investment? He has pocket Kings and saw the flop, called every bet and then folded on the turn. It's all on him.

It says something that in a line comically comparing Potter's management to a global pandemic I've been quoted twice complaining it isn't critical enough! 

No matter how well or badly anyone performs, I think that they always deserve to be treated fairly. I think Potter is doing a terrible job, and I don't really think there is an argument against that view. 

However, I think it is also true that:

-Having loads of players signed in a window, on top of loads more signed in the previous window, without many outgoings makes the squad increasingly hard to manage. 

-Having to incorporate them all at once, without a pre season, is very difficult regardless of their talent or price tag. 

-Joining a club during the season isn't optimal for anyone, but particularly for a coach who typically implements his changes slowly. It's even harder when the institutional memory and football know-how at the top of the club has been removed (and that isn't to say the previous structures were perfect). 

All of the above (and for that matter Potter's appointment) are the ultimate responsibility of the ownership.

And I know a lot of people are strongly backing boehly in large part because of the signings he has made.  Well to that I say, don't forget that ultimately he's going to try to get you to pay for them. 

Took off Fofana. Still can’t get that out of my mind. 

3 minutes ago, enigma said:

To be fair he did have a fair bit go against him early on with injuries. But now with the players we've bought the results have to start coming. We had arguably a worse front three last season but managed to do better and pick up results. Not sure if that was solely on Tuchel, but James was performing well and Giroud was up top. 

We had a massive injury crisis last season under Tuchel as well, with both James and Chilwell out. We still got top 4 comfortably and were a couple penalty kicks away from a domestic cup double. Not to mention winning our first ever club world cup. Our only major signing was Lukaku who decided he didn't want to be here after a month.

 

Tuchel and Potter are pretty much incomparable at this point. Potter looks bad even compared to the likes of AVB and Scolari. 

I hope Boehly swallows his pride tonight and makes the best decision for the club.

Does anyone think it's telling Potter still hasn't done his post match press conference?

He's either shouting and screaming at the players, or hiding in the toilets.

1 minute ago, Drogba1 said:

Does anyone know what the league table since Potter took over would look like? 21 points in 17 games is awful

We would be 12th.

The good run at the beginning helps us be upper lower half !

 

4 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Took off Fofana. Still can’t get that out of my mind. 

not just that, he put in Wesley and put Mount up top for a bit before taking Mount out. Why? 

1 minute ago, Sexyfootball said:

We would be 12th.

The good run at the beginning helps us be upper lower half !

 

That's better than I expected to be honest, 21 points in 17 is usually 15th/16th kind of form

4 minutes ago, Argo said:

Well I'd certainly rather lose 6-0 and win 2-0 than lose 1-0 twice while barely leaving our half.

Like i said before, I just find it ironic you are preaching standards but in your last regular spell here you were going to all lengths possible trying to explain why setting up like San Marino was perfectly acceptable.

Because it is the best for the club at that time 

you aren’t beating man city that season when they had 100 pt and break all the records, your dream of ‘winning 2-0 after losing 6-0’ is just a fantasy and doesn’t help. That season the top 4 race is tight and I understand why Conte don’t want the team to go and lose 6-0 to lose a big advantage when competing 4th. You have to do what is the best for the team at that time just like how Inter defend with 10 men inside the box for the whole 45 mins against Barcelona in 2010. 

having standards doesn’t mean you need to be unrealistic. I believe what Conte did that night is the best for the team in the top 4 race, that’s about it.

6 minutes ago, g3.7 said:

It says something that in a line comically comparing Potter's management to a global pandemic I've been quoted twice complaining it isn't critical enough! 

No matter how well or badly anyone performs, I think that they always deserve to be treated fairly. I think Potter is doing a terrible job, and I don't really think there is an argument against that view. 

However, I think it is also true that:

-Having loads of players signed in a window, on top of loads more signed in the previous window, without many outgoings makes the squad increasingly hard to manage. 

-Having to incorporate them all at once, without a pre season, is very difficult regardless of their talent or price tag. 

-Joining a club during the season isn't optimal for anyone, but particularly for a coach who typically implements his changes slowly. It's even harder when the institutional memory and football know-how at the top of the club has been removed (and that isn't to say the previous structures were perfect). 

All of the above (and for that matter Potter's appointment) are the ultimate responsibility of the ownership.

And I know a lot of people are strongly backing boehly in large part because of the signings he has made.  Well to that I say, don't forget that ultimately he's going to try to get you to pay for them. 

Boehly is a joke and the ultimate cause of all of this. 

Bring back Roman!

1 minute ago, Zeta said:

Look at United in comparison, that's what an actual top manager can do, compared to the fraud we hired

The table from the Brighton drubbing onwards ... anyone still refusing to believe we are in relegation form should take note !

 

<EDIT > Beaten to the post LOL. Cheers Zeta !

Edited February 18, 20233 yr by Sexyfootball

Just now, Spiller86 said:

Boehly is a joke and the ultimate cause of all of this. 

Bring back Roman!

Disagree, aside from sacking Tuchel and not hiring a DOF in the summer he hasn't been bad at all. Our January signings have all been sound. The problem is Potter at this point, and no one else.

6 minutes ago, g3.7 said:

It says something that in a line comically comparing Potter's management to a global pandemic I've been quoted twice complaining it isn't critical enough! 

No matter how well or badly anyone performs, I think that they always deserve to be treated fairly. I think Potter is doing a terrible job, and I don't really think there is an argument against that view. 

However, I think it is also true that:

-Having loads of players signed in a window, on top of loads more signed in the previous window, without many outgoings makes the squad increasingly hard to manage. 

-Having to incorporate them all at once, without a pre season, is very difficult regardless of their talent or price tag. 

-Joining a club during the season isn't optimal for anyone, but particularly for a coach who typically implements his changes slowly. It's even harder when the institutional memory and football know-how at the top of the club has been removed (and that isn't to say the previous structures were perfect). 

All of the above (and for that matter Potter's appointment) are the ultimate responsibility of the ownership.

And I know a lot of people are strongly backing boehly in large part because of the signings he has made.  Well to that I say, don't forget that ultimately he's going to try to get you to pay for them. 

You forget Potter has changed the Starting XI every game. 

Look at today's lineup

Kova and Enzo - first time together

DDFofana, Mount, Joao, Madueke - first time together

Chilwell, Badiashile, Koulibaly, Azpi - first time together.

What a dumbass lineup, Potter literally then made 3 tactical changes in 45min.

What the feck? How does that help any one of the players?

Under Potter, Brighton were strong defensively but poor offensively, they were one of the lowest scoring teams in the League in the 3 full seasons under Potter. 

This season we are strong defensively but very poor offensively, we've literally turned into Brighton. We have no attacking threat and have scored 6 goals in our last 15 games

 

To put this into context, Brighton's highest scoring season under Potter was 42 goals. This season without Potter Brighton have scored 39 goals and still have around 16 games left to play. Brighton are also doing better than they ever did under Potter.

I'm all for giving managers time and we are in serious transition right now but I'm extremely doubtful Potter is the right man to take us forward

 

 

10 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Took off Fofana. Still can’t get that out of my mind. 

You can start drinking, it helped me.

1 minute ago, Sparkz said:

Under Potter, Brighton were strong defensively but poor offensively, they were one of the lowest scoring teams in the League in the 3 full seasons under Potter. 

This season we are strong defensively but very poor offensively, we've literally turned into Brighton. We have no attacking threat and have scored 6 goals in our last 15 games

 

To put this into context, Brighton's highest scoring season under Potter was 42 goals. This season without Potter Brighton have scored 39 goals and still have around 16 games left to play. Brighton are also doing better than they ever did under Potter.

I'm all for giving managers time and we are in serious transition right now but I'm extremely doubtful Potter is the right man to take us forward

 

 

Strong defensively? We suck! We pretty much concede a goal a game

Were the fans booing Potter as much as we used to boo Sarri, who had us comfortably top 4? Feels like Potter's biggest strength is getting people to pity him at this point