https://www.change.org/p/graham-potter-to-be-sacked

The Petition for Potter to be sacked has now exceeded the capacity of the Bridge.

1 minute ago, TimesUpPotter said:

https://www.change.org/p/graham-potter-to-be-sacked

The Petition for Potter to be sacked has now exceeded the capacity of the Bridge.

Well atleast now we know that they'll be some people on that petition that won't contradict themselves by going to the game on Saturday, lining the owners pockets and therefore effectively pay Potter's wages for the week.

15 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

He's the only manager in the world that needs a top 4 team + 300m investment... Only to say that he can't run training sessions cause the squad is too big, whatever you give him it's either too much or too little 

You could probably give Potter the PSG job for 10 years and he'd have zero Ligue 1 titles at the end of it ... 

3 hours ago, TimesUpPotter said:

I'm not Auba's biggest fan but I think it's ridiculous saying Potter doesn't have a striker when he's leaving Auba out of the CL squad for an injured 6th choice winger in Pulisic and a Ziyech that had gone to Paris.

Coupled with taking Fofana off after a promising 1st half against Southampton to play Mount up front and the fact not one striker in Potters entire managerial career has looked good under him I think it's more of a case Potter doesn't know how to use a striker rather than the players being the primary issue.

Potter probably inspired by the All or Nothing, and decided to ban Auba to follow Arteta's suit. If Auba was a bad egg as some believed, then leave him out of the first team all together. Potter left him out of the CL knock out games when he was the top scorer in group stage, not playing him at all yet throwing him on against Spurs 2 down with 10 minutes to go. Against a Southampton or Westham, who's most likely to score a goal in the last 15-20 minutes of chaos, Auba or Mount?

Potter may just use the petition to deflect more attention this week, that was the plot for last week, wonder what will this week be.

I have yet to hear a passionate "Graham at the wheel," comment.

Probably because he's crashed into an ice berg already.

 

Can't blame him, he went from a world class manager to a PE teacher.

That's why I don't understand the 'give him till summer' lot. Top players are going to become unhappy club performing this poorly. If we finish 14th/15th, even the likes of Reece James will want to leave.

I think players like James and Mount will give it a few years until they jump ship, even if things get really dire next few years.

But yeah, why should Enzo waste his time staying here when he knows he can play for any team in the world? The longer this goes on for, the more reluctant top players will be about joining us. F*ck knows what Nkunku is thinking now.

It makes so much sense to sack Potter now and salvage the season, even if it’s just a top 10 finish. I literally cannot find a reason to see why he should stay. It’s embarrassing.

23 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

 

Can't blame him, he went from a world class manager to a PE teacher.

That's why I don't understand the 'give him till summer' lot. Top players are going to become unhappy club performing this poorly. If we finish 14th/15th, even the likes of Reece James will want to leave.

Well if he does then great it makes it easier to shift his huge wages and hopefully get back our money, if not make a profit.

26 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Well if he does then great it makes it easier to shift his huge wages and hopefully get back our money, if not make a profit.

He's better than any of the other attackers we have here bar maybe Felix. 5 G/A in 7 games under Tuchel until our tactical genius decided to turn him into a LWB and cause his form to fall off a cliff.

3 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

He's better than any of the other attackers we have here bar maybe Felix. 5 G/A in 7 games under Tuchel until our tactical genius decided to turn him into a LWB and cause his form to fall off a cliff.

Never rated him Drogs, very limited player. 

Old Pots must have magic if he's still under the employ of the Chelsea Football Club... 

great success 🥸🥸🥸

 

3 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Never rated him Drogs, very limited player. 

You never rated Stirling?  I recall his first or second game for liverpuddle. He was one of those players that immediatelycatch the eye. He has played a lot of games for two very big clubs and scored a goal every three games or so. His record statistically is likely close to hazards in terms of goals and assists though I can’t be bothered checking. I could understand a view he is past his best, but never?

 

chelsea is a mess right now. It’s not all potters fault by any means, but In significant part  it is. It’s the style of play I don’t like, pretty enough, but slow, until we get to their box and then dig in and wait for a breakaway by the opposition. The formation more or less 4 2 4 sucks in my opinion, the full backs can’t come inside a la Tuchel style yet the central midfield is constrained 

the 4 attackers have no clear plan for penetrating. In a few more games chiller will be injured again and we;ll be back to cucu. 
I suspect it may be no better next season. Those who think it can’t get any worse haven’t been there. It can always get worse. 

3 hours ago, ozboy said:

 

You never rated Stirling?  I recall his first or second game for liverpuddle. He was one of those players that immediatelycatch the eye. He has played a lot of games for two very big clubs and scored a goal every three games or so. His record statistically is likely close to hazards in terms of goals and assists though I can’t be bothered checking. I could understand a view he is past his best, but never?

 

chelsea is a mess right now. It’s not all potters fault by any means, but In significant part  it is. It’s the style of play I don’t like, pretty enough, but slow, until we get to their box and then dig in and wait for a breakaway by the opposition. The formation more or less 4 2 4 sucks in my opinion, the full backs can’t come inside a la Tuchel style yet the central midfield is constrained 

the 4 attackers have no clear plan for penetrating. In a few more games chiller will be injured again and we;ll be back to cucu. 
I suspect it may be no better next season. Those who think it can’t get any worse haven’t been there. It can always get worse. 

Never rated him as a top, top player no. When we played City I hoped Pep would pick him as it meant he left a better player out imo 

He is decent and has a good goal record, I just would sooner have Pedro or Willian at their peak for us than any stage of Sterling.

At liverpool I though a very good striker. He got lucky playing for man city in that system. He can do his run and know he will get the ball from the creative players (Debryune, Mahrez, Foden,…)he has missed  a lot of easy chances but that Team created a lot during a match. With Chelsea there is nobody to do that so you will see his Wastefulness.

in a good team he will do fine but he is not your number 9 or a winger to dribble from the wing.

11 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Never rated him as a top, top player no. When we played City I hoped Pep would pick him as it meant he left a better player out imo 

He is decent and has a good goal record, I just would sooner have Pedro or Willian at their peak for us than any stage of Sterling.

fair enough. Neither every got to double digit goals in the PL whereas Stirling did it in each of his last five seasons with Man C. Both Willian and Pedro were happy to start deepr than Stirling typically does.

This is stupidity of the Chelsea squad at the moment where we have Mudryk, Mount, Stirling, Pulisic all competing for the wide left attacking position, and only Ziyech and Muduake  for the right neither of whom are as good as any of the left side options 

In attacking midfield we have countless players some of whom like Chukwumeka have had next to no game time and we don't really have a single defensive midfielder in the mold of Makelele or Matic or Mikel. 

The team changes so much every week that you can pretty much guarantee there wont' be any real chemistry, more like a pick up albeit talented team. The fact that there is so much player rotation makes the players try too hard. For me Felix would be bettter if he just relaxed. I could go on.

Me I'd like to go to a 4:3:3 like we played until Conte came along and more or less settle on a team where only a couple of position changed from game to game. Not only would that build chemistry but you could see the difference of changing player x for player y. At the moment all we see is team a and team b with no idea of the best team and the team(s) with no idea how to score goals.

it is a total sh** show and no mistake.

17 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Bloody hell LOL. You're losing your credibility as a poster even faster than enigma now !

 

I'm just playing devils advocate here lol people don't remember how much of a laughing stock Arsenal were under Arteta at first. Even their FA cup win against us was a complete joke with the officiating. 

12 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

You could probably give Potter the PSG job for 10 years and he'd have zero Ligue 1 titles at the end of it ... 

The man's excuses know no bound. A direct contradiction to his I take responsibility mantra 

Therein is the problem, I've lways said its a mentality thing. That's why he will never get another big job like Moyes because it's not their level and deep down inside they know. 

They don't have the mentality or a mindset of a manager that expects his team to win or compete at the top end of the football pyramid. All they know is what a top manager should say but the conviction in their own heart isn't there and so it falls flat. 

Players notice these things too which is why I laugh when people say he needs time. Why do some leaders by make their teams or businesses top performing ones and others just manage to get them ticking on even though they have a good CV? Mentality!

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9 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Never rated him Drogs, very limited player. 

It's not about rating him though is it? It's about why was he performing before GP and not after GP? With him you can identify a reason straight away, he started getting shunted out to different positions. 

8 minutes ago, abister1 said:

The man's excuses know no bound. A direct contradiction to his I take responsibility. 

Therein is the problem, I've always said its a mentality thing. That's why he will never get another big job like Moyes because it's not their level and deep down inside they know. 

They don't have the mentality or a mindset of a manager that expects his team to win or compete at the top end of the football pyramid. All they know is what a top manager should say but the conviction in their own heart isn't there and so it falls flat. 

Players notice these things too which is why I laugh when people say he needs time. Why do some leaders by make their teams or businesses top performing ones and others just manage to get them ticking on even though they have a good CV? Mentality!

100% agree on the mentality aspect.

He is forever talking about how his job is to "improve the players" and "help the club", rather than talk of titles, winning games etc etc. It's all fluffy bullsh*t rather than tangible goals. If your goal is "improvement" then setting a low bar is great. You can be 15th one year, and then 12th the next, and that is your improvement all ticked off, and happy clappy claps all round LOL.

The contrast to Tuchel is so stark that the players must be thinking they are stuck in a recurring bad dream ... the only players likely to be buying into Potter are the new young ones who didn't have a previous elite manager to compare against, and this is why I am half expecting most of the players from pre-Potter to get moved on in the summer, to smooth the transition to Boehly's pet manager.

I do think the large squad must also hinder Potter, just think when you want to improve the left attacking phase just in the attacking players you have a choice of several players how many detailed routines can you train in one session with getting managerial feedback. Two left back options with two midfielders and combos with three attackers. 

It is poor we have not unloaded some yet also a consequence of having so many players prone to injury.

I think the purchases under TT were largely panic buys, TT goes and then we splash the cash mid season with a new manager without offloading any players.

We are certainly in a fix 

22 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

100% agree on the mentality aspect.

He is forever talking about how his job is to "improve the players" and "help the club", rather than talk of titles, winning games etc etc. It's all fluffy bullsh*t rather than tangible goals. If your goal is "improvement" then setting a low bar is great. You can be 15th one year, and then 12th the next, and that is your improvement all ticked off, and happy clappy claps all round LOL.

The contrast to Tuchel is so stark that the players must be thinking they are stuck in a recurring bad dream ... the only players likely to be buying into Potter are the new young ones who didn't have a previous elite manager to compare against, and this is why I am half expecting most of the players from pre-Potter to get moved on in the summer, to smooth the transition to Boehly's pet manager.

Everyones biggest fear is that he'll improve just enough for him to keep his job but not enough for us to actually compete. He's got a ton of talented players so it's a given the results will improve a bit if he's given enough time. So then he can keep up his bullsh*t "we are improving propaganda" and the owners will lap it up.

Meanwhile Chalobah, Gallagher and Mount will leave in the summer to fund this rebuild for Potter and they will go on to have brilliant careers for other clubs in the league while we are stuck with an absolute fraud for years. I genuinely fear that will happen and I am convinced the trio mentioned is on their way out. Chalobah isn't even deemed worthy of a spot on the bench anymore. So the very guy that was known for "improving and developing" players are shifting out the academy lads for the newest toy from France, Ukraine, Portugal or wherever.

If Potter is given enough time I think he will go down as the most universally hated Chelsea manager in history. Because he'll lose us some players that were supposed to be cornerstones for the future and set the club back years in terms of competing.

Another day and another chance to announce his sacking. 

12 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

Another day and another chance to announce his sacking. 

At least it gives us something to look forward to each day LOL.

A bit like National Lottery day representing the hope of a better financial future. Probably the same odds of winning the jackpot as Boehly firing Potter mind you 🙂 

17 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

He's not even listed in the Bookies odds list for "next Chelsea manager", so probably nothing in this rumour anyway

That notwithstanding. most of us over in UK are not really familiar with Amorim, so it would be very helpful to understand why you feel he is not a good fit for Chelsea ?

 

He has quality material in Sporting CP. He is not playing organized football. I have been seeying their games around 10 this year and have to admit, its something what I dont want to see in Chelsea. Its total chaos.

17 hours ago, enigma said:

Oh come on, how did Tuchel have it worse? He was given Lukaku up top but managed to fall out with Lukaku it seems, which is another reason we are in the situation we are in with zero proper striker. Tuchel had a fit Kante when we won the CL too. He had Giroud, who I would argue is better than current Auba. Rudiger was settled into the team. Not to mention we were at one point a few points off top place last season then managed to f**k it up and fall way behind. Reece James and Chilwell were chipping in with goals. Mount was playing well too. There's no doubting that Potter has had it tougher this season with injuries. Tuchel started the season poorly and people were starting to question him. How can he stick to a combo of players when there's been constant injuries?

Reece James first returned from injury and then gets injured again. We know how important the full backs are to our play. Not to mention the loss of Kante has been massive. Kante has carried previous managers, alongside Hazard. Without Kante in certain games last season under Tuchel we saw how less effective we were. Now imagine the amount of key players we had out until the beginning of this month/latter end of last month. The amount of absentees has been unprecedented and that leads to lower confidence among the players. As I said, look at Klopp and the injuries they've had. Imagine Tottenham without Kane or Utd with Rashford. That's just 1 of our rivals key players, let alone 3/4 or more out. 

It was indeed far easier for Tuchel. During his time most of the players were playing very well, and won the majority of the matches. For Potter it is much more difficult now, since all the players are playing very badly and the team is losing every game.