51 minutes ago, PrinceOfPortugal said:

He has quality material in Sporting CP. He is not playing organized football. I have been seeying their games around 10 this year and have to admit, its something what I dont want to see in Chelsea. Its total chaos.

He's not got an English name though so half the fan base will be claiming they've watched all of Sporting's games and he's the next Jose Mourinho. 

19 hours ago, enigma said:

Oh come on, how did Tuchel have it worse? He was given Lukaku up top but managed to fall out with Lukaku it seems, which is another reason we are in the situation we are in with zero proper striker. Tuchel had a fit Kante when we won the CL too. He had Giroud, who I would argue is better than current Auba. Rudiger was settled into the team. Not to mention we were at one point a few points off top place last season then managed to f**k it up and fall way behind. Reece James and Chilwell were chipping in with goals. Mount was playing well too. There's no doubting that Potter has had it tougher this season with injuries. Tuchel started the season poorly and people were starting to question him. How can he stick to a combo of players when there's been constant injuries?

Reece James first returned from injury and then gets injured again. We know how important the full backs are to our play. Not to mention the loss of Kante has been massive. Kante has carried previous managers, alongside Hazard. Without Kante in certain games last season under Tuchel we saw how less effective we were. Now imagine the amount of key players we had out until the beginning of this month/latter end of last month. The amount of absentees has been unprecedented and that leads to lower confidence among the players. As I said, look at Klopp and the injuries they've had. Imagine Tottenham without Kane or Utd with Rashford. That's just 1 of our rivals key players, let alone 3/4 or more out. 

Lukaku failed here. He knew he couldn't hack it when Van Dijk made him look like a schoolboy. After that all the CBs locked him out of the game and Lukaku got fat.

Tuchel also had to navigate the club through sanctions, an injury-hit squad and the entirety of British media questioning/blaming the war on Chelsea Football Club all the while with an owner that was banned from the country and Tuchel still dragged the team to Top 4 spot, 2 finals and 2 trophies the club has never won. He also masterminded our CL run to glory just the previous year with almost these same players.

Potter comes in admittedly in the same injury hit squad, with no preseason. Okay, fair. But he also had a WC break of a month and had the luxury of getting plenty of replacements in for the squad. Now 90% of the team is fit, playing one game a week and he still chopping and changing, now reports are coming out that he can't properly train players because he has 30 players to train when he allowed these same players 2 and a half day off in the week before facing Tottenham.

A squad of internationals, CL winners, World Cup winner and trophy winners, yet he still comes up with an abysmal run of 2 in 16 PLUS dogsh*t performances against rivals and the bottom placed team in the league.

When we were playing badly under Tuchel, some people couldn't wait to get rid of him yet almost the same people defend Potter with not having Lukaku as if Potter's style benefits Lukaku in some way. News flash, Potter likes strikers getting balls to feet, Lukaku is awful with the ball at his feet.

Ever think that the reason these players are playing bad because of Potter not in spite of Potter? I can tell you this, if next season Potter still manages this team, nothing will change.

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

He's not got an English name though so half the fan base will be claiming they've watched all of Sporting's games and he's the next Jose Mourinho. 

What he is close is to be sacked from Sporting CP.

2 hours ago, Deino said:

Potter comes in admittedly in the same injury hit squad, with no preseason. Okay, fair. But he also had a WC break of a month Oand had the luxury of getting plenty of replacements in for the squad. Now 90% of the team is fit, playing one game a week and he still chopping and changing, now reports are coming out that he can't properly train players because he has 30 players to train when he allowed these same players 2 and a half day off in the week before facing Tottenham.

 

Not even going to bother argue with the rest - but some of you lot need to stop with the World Cup Break being spun as a good thing.

The world cup ravaged the squad, and left just a handful of first-teamers for Potter to work with. They were: Auba, Jorgi (since gone), Broja (since injured), Chalobah, Chukwumeka, Cucurella, Kepa, Bettinelli. So to spin the WC break as a positive chance to work and transform the squad is simply not true.

There was also Loftus Cheek, James, Chilly and Kante, who were all injured and not training.

2 hours ago, Deino said:

Tuchel also had to navigate the club through sanctions, an injury-hit squad and the entirety of British media questioning/blaming the war on Chelsea Football Club all the while with an owner that was banned from the country and Tuchel still dragged the team to Top 4 spot, 2 finals and 2 trophies the club has never won. He also masterminded our CL run to glory just the previous year with almost these same players.

Potter comes in admittedly in the same injury hit squad, with no preseason. Okay, fair. But he also had a WC break of a month and had the luxury of getting plenty of replacements in for the squad. Now 90% of the team is fit, playing one game a week and he still chopping and changing, now reports are coming out that he can't properly train players because he has 30 players to train when he allowed these same players 2 and a half day off in the week before facing Tottenham.

Fantastic post particularly this paragraph

There's never been an excuse for how poorly Potter has done.  A lot of managers have came in mid season this year and he's had more time than all of them except Gary O'neill. Infact here's a table that has been doing the rounds comparing managers that have taken over a club mid season this year compared to his predecessor.

No surprises for which incoming manager has had the worst impact on his sides season.

Apparently now the problem is Potter was given £300m worth of top talent in the window so he can't be expected to do as well as managers that have inherited squads around the relegation zone and had no money to spend.

The excuses are so bad now even Arteta is coming out saying he shouldn't be compared to this fraud and he has a point, I don't know why people are imagining Arteta was anywhere near this bad.  Arteta has lost 3 consecutive games once in his managerial career. We've done it 3 times since Potter took over and I think it's massively insulting to managers like Arteta and Klopp for Graham to come out in press conferences and pretend they performed as poorly as he has.

Edited March 1, 20233 yr by TimesUpPotter

2 hours ago, Deino said:

Lukaku failed here. He knew he couldn't hack it when Van Dijk made him look like a schoolboy. After that all the CBs locked him out of the game and Lukaku got fat.

Tuchel also had to navigate the club through sanctions, an injury-hit squad and the entirety of British media questioning/blaming the war on Chelsea Football Club all the while with an owner that was banned from the country and Tuchel still dragged the team to Top 4 spot, 2 finals and 2 trophies the club has never won. He also masterminded our CL run to glory just the previous year with almost these same players.

Potter comes in admittedly in the same injury hit squad, with no preseason. Okay, fair. But he also had a WC break of a month and had the luxury of getting plenty of replacements in for the squad. Now 90% of the team is fit, playing one game a week and he still chopping and changing, now reports are coming out that he can't properly train players because he has 30 players to train when he allowed these same players 2 and a half day off in the week before facing Tottenham.

A squad of internationals, CL winners, World Cup winner and trophy winners, yet he still comes up with an abysmal run of 2 in 16 PLUS dogsh*t performances against rivals and the bottom placed team in the league.

When we were playing badly under Tuchel, some people couldn't wait to get rid of him yet almost the same people defend Potter with not having Lukaku as if Potter's style benefits Lukaku in some way. News flash, Potter likes strikers getting balls to feet, Lukaku is awful with the ball at his feet.

Ever think that the reason these players are playing bad because of Potter not in spite of Potter? I can tell you this, if next season Potter still manages this team, nothing will change.

Looking back it's probably a good thing that Potter didn't get a pre-season - he would have extinguished all of them(players).He  is not a Chelsea man why keep him is the question not why sack him.. Captain Clueless. I can't think of another manager that could achieve so little with so much. 

Edited March 1, 20233 yr by OneTommyLangley

1 hour ago, PrinceOfPortugal said:

What he is close is to be sacked from Sporting CP.

Sounds like we won't have to pay compensation to get him then!

At least it'll be incredibly funny when the next manager comes in if the players still aren't performing for the third manager in a row. Wonder who TimesUpPotter will change his name to then?

9 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

At least it'll be incredibly funny when the next manager comes in if the players still aren't performing for the third manager in a row. Wonder who TimesUpPotter will change his name to then?

I think it'll be funnier seeing how you blame the next manager from his first bad result if he isn't English.

Very strange to suggest the players didn't perform under Tuchel given what they achieved with him but the few people who remain in denial over how poor a job Potter has done do tend to be very strange blokes.

20 minutes ago, OneTommyLangley said:

Looking back it's probably a good thing that Potter didn't get a pre-season - 

We'd have gone down this year.

1 minute ago, TimesUpPotter said:

I think it'll be funnier seeing how you blame the next manager from his first bad result if he isn't English.

Very strange to suggest the players didn't perform under Tuchel given what they achieved with him but the few people who remain in denial over how poor a job Potter has done do tend to be very strange blokes.

Perhaps if you spent more time on this forum before you joined to only cry about a manager on every post and add no substance elsewhere you'd have seen how i backed every manager (except Rafa), if you didn't know Chelsea have had a lot of managers that aren't English before Potter.

Players weren't performing for Potter at the start of this season or throughout pre-season. Once again, might have been before you chose to be a supporter so just updating your memory. 

11 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Perhaps if you spent more time on this forum before you joined to only cry about a manager on every post and add no substance elsewhere you'd have seen how i backed every manager (except Rafa), if you didn't know Chelsea have had a lot of managers that aren't English before Potter.

Players weren't performing for Potter at the start of this season or throughout pre-season. Once again, might have been before you chose to be a supporter so just updating your memory. 

I don't think anyone expects much from your posts.

But "Players weren't performing throughout pre season"

Might just be a new low.

Edited March 1, 20233 yr by TimesUpPotter

14 minutes ago, TimesUpPotter said:

I don't think anyone expects much from your posts.

But "Players weren't performing throughout pre season"

Might just be a new low.

Glad to see you're happy with a 4-0 loss to Arsenal and losing to a team i'd never even knew existed. 

44 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

At least it'll be incredibly funny when the next manager comes in if the players still aren't performing for the third manager in a row. Wonder who TimesUpPotter will change his name to then?

 

There's a big difference between a below average patch of form under Tuchel and the sh*t Potter's served up. To be honest, it's time to stop the Tuchel comparisons, and start the Ian Porterfield comparisons instead.

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

 Wonder who TimesUpPotter will change his name to then?

If Jose does come back you'll also have a problem LOL. I think "Born Again Mourinho" has a nice ring to it personally !

2 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Not even going to bother argue with the rest - but some of you lot need to stop with the World Cup Break being spun as a good thing.

The world cup ravaged the squad, and left just a handful of first-teamers for Potter to work with. They were: Auba, Jorgi (since gone), Broja (since injured), Chalobah, Chukwumeka, Cucurella, Kepa, Bettinelli. So to spin the WC break as a positive chance to work and transform the squad is simply not true.

There was also Loftus Cheek, James, Chilly and Kante, who were all injured and not training.

Ok, lets say you're right about the world cup break.

So what excuses he has now? Everyone is fit and playing 1 game a week. Kante and Silva out currently so I guess we just wait for P14 W0 D2 L12?

25 minutes ago, Deino said:

Ok, lets say you're right about the world cup break.

So what excuses he has now? Everyone is fit and playing 1 game a week. Kante and Silva out currently so I guess we just wait for P14 W0 D2 L12?

We will see.

Since the World Cup there has been an unprecedented amount of change in the squad - with large numbers slowly coming back from lengthy injuries and new signings (all young and playing in the EPL for the first time).

We are currently a collection of players and a bloated squad. Not a team. 
 

Results should definitely be better. Potter should have definitely got more out of the squad.  But given the disruption; the unprecedented changes and new direction - then it is inevitable that it will take time to see a tangible lasting change in the style. 

Goal of the month could ONLY go to the ladies... 🥅⛔️🛑🤬

Somebody needs to get Potter to one side, with a hand around his throat and tell him to pick a core of 15 or so players. And stick to them for at least 3 weeks.

If you have to make a change because of injury ok. DON'T keep chopping and changing.

To get the best from Chilwell and James you HAVE to play a back 3

After the same team has had a chance change the worst 1 or 2 players, to some who weren't in the original pick, and so on.

That way you have competition for places, if any players don't like it then they are not the players we need.

Potter's style is to always switch players and systems, he is counting on the surprise factor by constantly switching things up this is what he did at Brighton.

And this is also something that no successful manager in the modern era has done as well so no wonder Potter is out of his depth.

He has to be made to realise, big clubs don't change to suit the opposition, they have to change to suit US.

6 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Not even going to bother argue with the rest - but some of you lot need to stop with the World Cup Break being spun as a good thing.

The world cup ravaged the squad, and left just a handful of first-teamers for Potter to work with. They were: Auba, Jorgi (since gone), Broja (since injured), Chalobah, Chukwumeka, Cucurella, Kepa, Bettinelli. So to spin the WC break as a positive chance to work and transform the squad is simply not true.

There was also Loftus Cheek, James, Chilly and Kante, who were all injured and not training.

Do we do the same for the three week break around the Queen's funeral and the lengthy breaks following our early withdrawal from the cup competitions. This guy has had more training ground time with his players than pretty much any of our recent managers over the last ten years or more.

1 hour ago, TheRealDavidK said:

Goal of the month could ONLY go to the ladies... 🥅⛔️🛑🤬

Haha, Yeah, we bring a whole new meaning to Goal of the Season. We score one in each season of the year!

Has any club snapped up TT ?

Squad is beloated, but that's probably Boehly's plan all along to cram in as many new players as possible. Potter had two chances, either telling the both that's not the way to go about it ( probably get sacked as his predecessors but at least it's brave), or leave the spares out and work on his best 17-18 players. Looking at the team selection, he did neither, and that's the tough choices he had to make as a manager. He's aware that he couldn't afford to cross either the boss or the players, tried to keep everyone happy and ignored the results and fans.   Rumors said he has 4 games to save his job, does that win he needs to win all 4, or just 1 out of 4 to keep his job? 😬