Did Tuchel just say he would've come back here 😂 

Honestly can't believe he'd have preferred coming back to this shambles over joining Bayern, that's unreal 😂 hope he comes back one day though

15 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

 

Did Tuchel just say he would've come back here 😂 

He misses us 🥰

Well he did ask Todd to give him another chance to get on board with the programme when he sacked him but Todd refused. 

He genuinely liked and felt at home at Chelsea I think. 

Life is cruel. Roman found the manager he had been looking for all through his ownership but good ol Boris and the boys club had other ideas. 

Edited April 3, 20233 yr by abister1

30 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Only Chilwell has posted a “thank you gaffer” message. Kind of says it all unfortunately. 

I think something fishy is going on. I couldn’t stand Potter as a coach but you can’t deny that he is a likeable guy. He’s a genuinely nice bloke and I find it hard to believe he would be that unpopular to receive pretty much nothing from the players. That’s the sort of thing you may expect to happen to Conte, Sarri but not Potter. It doesn’t make sense.

41 minutes ago, icecoolguy22 said:

Basically all the fears we had when he was appointed came true, a good manager but just not ready for this job. He was meant to be the good guy that build rapport with the players, but over time his lack of authority and 'anger' meant players no longer listen to him, and he just became a by stander on the sideline watching helplessly.

Timing is everything. Honestly feel if Potter came in the summer we wouldn’t have done a bad as we are doing. Boehly put him in a difficult position and when things went downhill it was impossible to climb up again.

19 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

I think something fishy is going on. I couldn’t stand Potter as a coach but you can’t deny that he is a likeable guy. He’s a genuinely nice bloke and I find it hard to believe he would be that unpopular to receive pretty much nothing from the players. That’s the sort of thing you may expect to happen to Conte, Sarri but not Potter. It doesn’t make sense.

From what Kieron Dyer said a lot of players weren't happy with the Tuchel sacking in the first place, and saw Potter as a downgrade. I don't think they ever really warmed to him, despite their public support. 

2 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

Didn't Bayern appoint Tuchel the day after sacking Nagelsmann?.

Surely it's better to have the replacement lined up before the sacking ?

I'm not sure it always happens that a club is without an immediat replacement...ever ?

Not that it matters much ,.as long as the right coach is appointed eventually.

The risk with having a perm replacement lined up is that it leaks, imagine a concrete source noting Chelsea make contact with Nagelsmann coming out on Tuesday morning before the Liverpool game.

And the issue in our instance is that we immediately went and got Potter when tuchel was sacked and they don't want it to look rushed this time. 

In my eye we are almost certainly going to get Nagelsmann, but they need to make it look like a full search. 

Just now, bisright1 said:

The risk with having a perm replacement lined up is that it leaks, imagine a concrete source noting Chelsea make contact with Nagelsmann coming out on Tuesday morning before the Liverpool game.

And the issue in our instance is that we immediately went and got Potter when tuchel was sacked and they don't want it to look rushed this time. 

In my eye we are almost certainly going to get Nagelsmann, but they need to make it look like a full search. 

Hopefully, really hope it's not Enrique, without MSN his CV is pretty much bare

39 minutes ago, abister1 said:

Life is cruel. Roman found the manager he had been looking for all through his ownership but good ol Boris and the boys club had other ideas. 

For however much we may or may not believe TT "loved and felt at home" at Chelsea, times it by 10 fold and you get halfway towards how much Roman loved our club.

Little by little those in power in the UK government chipped away at him, stopping him from being able to attend games in the UK, then ripped the club away from him.

Managers have come and gone and we remained the same ethos. We are all together, and winning was not only the aim but the requirement.

Without Roman it is no surprise things have gotten worse.

🤠

4 hours ago, axman2526 said:

For however much we may or may not believe TT "loved and felt at home" at Chelsea, times it by 10 fold and you get halfway towards how much Roman loved our club.

Little by little those in power in the UK government chipped away at him, stopping him from being able to attend games in the UK, then ripped the club away from him.

Managers have come and gone and we remained the same ethos. We are all together, and winning was not only the aim but the requirement.

Without Roman it is no surprise things have gotten worse.

Nearly 400 thousand people have been killed or injured since Russia's invasion of Ukraine.................... Pause to think about that number ................... ............... It wasn't just Roman's cash that's been targeted, VTB capital too (who I believe have invested more than Roman did in the UK) 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/administrators-appointed-vtb-capital-plc-teneo-2022-12-09/

and a host of other oligarchs like former Arsenal owner Usmanov, as well as British nationals like Graham Phillips (little known RT Propagandist).

Funny thing is as well, since the sanctions, we've not had any more chemical weapons attacks in the UK and very wealthy anonymous Russians have stopped falling out of windows or dying in mysterious ways. I personally also think it is a good thing that we don't see WMD decontamination units cleaning up radiation across London or that our water wasn't contaminated in Salisbury that could have led to thousands of deaths. You may beg to disagree and that's fine. Roman is our past, Todd is present and the future is a new manager to be decided.. again.

 

Whoever comes in next needs to have cojones and sort out some of the sh*t attitudes in the dressing room.

1 hour ago, olderschoolcfc said:

Nearly 400 thousand people have been killed or injured since Russia's invasion of Ukraine.................... Pause to think about that number ................... ............... It wasn't just Roman's cash that's been targeted, VTB capital too (who I believe have invested more than Roman did in the UK) 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/administrators-appointed-vtb-capital-plc-teneo-2022-12-09/

and a host of other oligarchs like former Arsenal owner Usmanov, as well as British nationals like Graham Phillips (little known RT Propagandist).

Funny thing is as well, since the sanctions, we've not had any more chemical weapons attacks in the UK and very wealthy anonymous Russians have stopped falling out of windows or dying in mysterious ways. I personally also think it is a good thing that we don't see WMD decontamination units cleaning up radiation across London or that our water wasn't contaminated in Salisbury that could have led to thousands of deaths. You may beg to disagree and that's fine. Roman is our past, Todd is present and the future is a new manager to be decided.. again.

 

I disagree with how Roman was treated, yes. 

For me that is a separate matter than the atrocity that continues to happen in the Ukrainian, those are beyond my comprehension.

Without going completely off football and getting into politics, Roman was one of the few who's capable of persuade Putin ( a bit), and potentially reduce the amount of bloodshed, and work together peace. Instead, he's been treated as the criminal, but he still did his charity. So yes, I'm pretty confused who are the good guys out there. He was going to sell anyway because he could never watch football in London, then came February 2022

Here's a really comprehensive piece on how it all went wrong for Potter.  Recommended reading.

Chelsea only scored in the first half in 2 premier league games at Stamford Bridge under Graham Potter. Wolves and Bournemouth. Two games out of 11 attempts.

He lost 4 Premier League home games out of 11 attempts. For context, Jose Mourinho lost 5 home premier league across his two spells out of 106 fixtures, with 4 of them coming in his final season. 

11 hours ago, DarkMata said:

It would be nice if we were the club to finally break the cycle.  Multicultural doesn’t mean anyone but English.  We’ve had many terrible managers in the premier league over the years and many of those would have been chosen over perfectly good English managers because of a weird belief that foreign is better. 

Perfectly good English managers like who though ?. The only English managers to win anything that I can think of are Redknapp at Pompey and McClaren at Boro so that's an FA cup and league cup in 20 years maybe longer. Here off the top of my head are some English managers Bruce, Hodgson, Pardew, Allardyce, Southgate, Pearce, Ince, Parker, Lampard it's not exactly an impressive list.

If you spread it to British managers you have the likes of Moyes, Nathan Jones, Mick McCarthy played for Ireland but is very much a Yorkshire man  Rodgers, Martin O' Neill, Keane Irish but a massive figure in the English game and of course that berk Souness who can remember every single game he was involved in but has total amnesia when it comes to having a pub player play for Southampton cause he told them he was George Weah's cousin.

Guys David Moyes 2.0 was generous he was worst than that.

Media hyped him up too much while at Brighton and the owners who thought this was “American Ball” fell for it.

1 hour ago, OriginalS said:

Here's a really comprehensive piece on how it all went wrong for Potter.  Recommended reading.

 

4 hours ago, Kev56 said:

Whoever comes in next needs to have cojones and sort out some of the sh*t attitudes in the dressing room.

I don’t think there are sh*t attitudes in the dressing room, well more than the average dressing room. Like the Athletic article alluded to, we just have way too many players. Vivell needs to start earning his money & starting informing player not in his long term plan to start finding clubs now. With CL football we have way too many players upfront, & in the middle of the park, without CL & playing once a week we need a leaner squad, & he needs to trim the fat.

22 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Doesn't matter who is on the bench - Could have Ian Porterfield or Prime Jose Mourinho, and Cucu would still have had the brain fart header. Kepa still doesn't save Mcginns shot and Mudryk still misses 2x sitters 

Prime Jose Mourinho wouldn't be playing Cucurella on the field when Chilwell is fit and ready.

10 minutes ago, ducavis said:

 

I don’t think there are sh*t attitudes in the dressing room, well more than the average dressing room. Like the Athletic article alluded to, we just have way too many players. Vivell needs to start earning his money & starting informing player not in his long term plan to start finding clubs now. With CL football we have way too many players upfront, & in the middle of the park, without CL & playing once a week we need a leaner squad, & he needs to trim the fat.

That last line was so obvious even from the first game Potter was in charge of. The only ones that wanted Potter to stay made a lot of stuff up just so that they could see "continuity" or "move away from hiring and firing"

Edited April 4, 20233 yr by Deino

33 minutes ago, bluehaze said:

Perfectly good English managers like who though ?. The only English managers to win anything that I can think of are Redknapp at Pompey and McClaren at Boro so that's an FA cup and league cup in 20 years maybe longer. Here off the top of my head are some English managers Bruce, Hodgson, Pardew, Allardyce, Southgate, Pearce, Ince, Parker, Lampard it's not exactly an impressive list.

If you spread it to British managers you have the likes of Moyes, Nathan Jones, Mick McCarthy played for Ireland but is very much a Yorkshire man  Rodgers, Martin O' Neill, Keane Irish but a massive figure in the English game and of course that berk Souness who can remember every single game he was involved in but has total amnesia when it comes to having a pub player play for Southampton cause he told them he was George Weah's cousin.

I have nothing against British managers but the info you have presented above just backs up my argument about they being poor managers compared to the pool of good managers a top club can pick from. 

They get overhyped and that's understandable. They also are always given time in the press when they already have familiarity with the league, something which same press don't afford to foreign managers. 

Many a press man and their unfair narratives have led to the hounding and downfall of good managers from the continent before they could adjust to life in Britain and imprint their play style into teams. They are summarily dismissed in record time compared to the British managers in my opinion. Others may see it differently. 

6 minutes ago, Deino said:

That last line was so obvious even from the first game Potter was in charge of. The only ones that wanted Potter to stay made a lot of stuff up just so that they could see "continuity" or "move away from hiring and firing"

I dare say it was obvious from before he was appointed. Maybe I just see things differently but nothing in his managerial stats from Ostersund, Swansea and Brighton suggest he could be a manager for a big club as Chelsea. Not sure how they interpreted the data as obviously you can spin a particular narrative using data. 

 

18 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

It is funny how a bloody United supporter over at the Athletic is the only journalist who is defending this sacking and telling it how it is. 

 

- 3 wins in 2023. 

- 1 win vs current top 10 which was against Gerrard's Villa. 

- 0 wins against Top 8. 

- 2 London derby wins out of 8.  Both against Palace. 

- 3 away wins in the league. 

- 21 goals scored in 22 league matches. 

- 0 G/D

- 4 points taken from a possible 9 against the current bottom 3. 

- 600m spent. 

- 7 months in charge.

- 32% win ratio

- 1.27 points per game. 

 

 

 

 

all the while we had Chelsea fans defending him