Talk about cherry picking stats to suit an agenda LOL.

2025 we've scored f-all goals after Maresca went all in tactically on Fernandez and Cucurella at the expense of Cole Palmer

And then, even in Enzo's "best" period, he still fails the eye test in the majority of games.

SELL.

30 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Talk about cherry picking stats to suit an agenda LOL.

2025 we've scored f-all goals after Maresca went all in tactically on Fernandez and Cucurella at the expense of Cole Palmer

And then, even in Enzo's "best" period, he still fails the eye test in the majority of games.

SELL.

Thank god you said it. People keep talking about Enzo and Cucu's goal scoring but its been to the detriment of the team.

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

Talk about cherry picking stats to suit an agenda LOL.

2025 we've scored f-all goals after Maresca went all in tactically on Fernandez and Cucurella at the expense of Cole Palmer

And then, even in Enzo's "best" period, he still fails the eye test in the majority of games.

SELL.

That's a manager issue, no? You can quite easily get all 3 playing properly and contributing.

18 minutes ago, Remodez said:

That's a manager issue, no? You can quite easily get all 3 playing properly and contributing.

I see it as an attempt to try and make expensive purchases look at least semi-decent by disguising their weaknesses in their actual positions.

Hence we see Enzo as a box crasher and Cucurella as anything other than an actual left back, inverting and popping up as a #10. Neither would be players I'd particularly prioritise as being on the end of moves and crosses. I'd want my actual attackers doing that, but these two are in there taking up the spaces and getting in the way !

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

I see it as an attempt to try and make expensive purchases look at least semi-decent by disguising their weaknesses in their actual positions.

Hence we see Enzo as a box crasher and Cucurella as anything other than an actual left back, inverting and popping up as a #10. Neither would be players I'd particularly prioritise as being on the end of moves and crosses. I'd want my actual attackers doing that, but these two are in there taking up the spaces and getting in the way !

Not really like we’re spoilt with choice.

Jackson is an imbecile in the box and Palmer has always been the one making things happen as opposed to getting on the end of it. Not really sure who else you are expecting to get in those dangerous areas when Noni+Neto have both shown to be incredibly unreliable in an attacking sense. Nkunku? Bloke has always moved on his own pace.

Cucurella and Enzo get on the end of most things because they are the best at it.

4 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Not really like we’re spoilt with choice.

Jackson is an imbecile in the box and Palmer has always been the one making things happen as opposed to getting on the end of it. Not really sure who else you are expecting to get in those dangerous areas when Noni+Neto have both shown to be incredibly unreliable in an attacking sense. Nkunku? Bloke has always moved on his own pace.

Cucurella and Enzo get on the end of most things because they are the best at it.

Enzo wasn't good at it until Maresca made it his sole function within the team (is he even that good?). Same with Cucurella.

They're only the 'best' at it because Maresca has them set up to do just that. 1 goal in Cucurella's last 100 appearances before this season but apparently now he's the best at it... 6 PL goals and people are acting like Enzo is the next coming of Lamps. Yawn.

I really don't understand how some of you can hate on the guy that likes to score against the spuds

He was expensive but that's not really in his control and he contributes to games unlike Mudryk

1 hour ago, Deino said:

I really don't understand how some of you can hate on the guy that likes to score against the spuds

He was expensive but that's not really in his control and he contributes to games unlike Mudryk

Pointing out someones flaws isn't hating, everyone is so soft these days.

2 hours ago, Deino said:

I really don't understand how some of you can hate on the guy that likes to score against the spuds

He was expensive but that's not really in his control and he contributes to games unlike Mudryk

Its the cool thing to do.

Hate on some, whilst defending the worst player we have had at the club for the past 30 years.... Silly old sausages

54 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Pointing out someones flaws isn't hating, everyone is so soft these days.

I just have players I favor more than others. I point out Mudryk's and Jackson's flaws all the time

22 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Enzo wasn't good at it until Maresca made it his sole function within the team (is he even that good?). Same with Cucurella.

They're only the 'best' at it because Maresca has them set up to do just that. 1 goal in Cucurella's last 100 appearances before this season but apparently now he's the best at it... 6 PL goals and people are acting like Enzo is the next coming of Lamps. Yawn.

Yawn. Are you actually a fan of Chelsea and do you enjoy [add verb] anything this club does. An honest question?

If you do why does it seem like you don't. It seems like a marriage where your husband can't do anything right. He is trying, he is ashamed, he is baffled. Only time he kind of recognizes he's okay when you don't criticize him.

No disrespect just wondering if this Chelsea thing is good for your general health....hope everything is fine mate.

9 minutes ago, evissy said:

Yawn. Are you actually a fan of Chelsea and do you enjoy [add verb] anything this club does. An honest question?

If you do why does it seem like you don't. It seems like a marriage where your husband can't do anything right. He is trying, he is ashamed, he is baffled. Only time he kind of recognizes he's okay when you don't criticize him.

No disrespect just wondering if this Chelsea thing is good for your general health....hope everything is fine mate.

Did you chatGPT this? You're supposed to fill in the blanks they leave for you silly!

Saying no disrespect then being condescending just makes you look like a bellend BTW just be honest and say you're trying to be a twat and you might be able to garner a sliver of respect from people.

3 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Did you chatGPT this? You're supposed to fill in the blanks they leave for you silly!

Saying no disrespect then being condescending just makes you look like a bellend BTW just be honest and say you're trying to be a twat and you might be able to garner a sliver of respect from people.

Have you read your posts? Slagging off Enzo who to me at least is the cornerstone of the squad (in its arc), the club and hopefully most fans. He is not Frank Lampard who is one of the all time best players in the country of all time. Many players are not.

You find every angle to find a way to slag off Enzo Maresca as well. Zero positive aspect of his work.

So if he (allegedly) decides to play to Cucu's and Enzo's strengths instead of Cole's who arguably is one of the most talented players in the country you don't see the upside of that? I don't see Cole being held back by tactics. He is around the same areas than he was when he scored for fun. He just isn't scoring with that magical level he did. No gripe towards him at all.

It is about balance of the squad. You need to get over Enzo F's fee that zero percent of you are paying and the clear hate you have towards Maresca. Neither is perfect, far from it but for the sake of this place find something positive to talk about here.

7 minutes ago, evissy said:

Have you read your posts? Slagging off Enzo who to me at least is the cornerstone of the squad (in its arc), the club and hopefully most fans. He is not Frank Lampard who is one of the all time best players in the country of all time. Many players are not.

You find every angle to find a way to slag off Enzo Maresca as well. Zero positive aspect of his work.

So if he (allegedly) decides to play to Cucu's and Enzo's strengths instead of Cole's who arguably is one of the most talented players in the country you don't see the upside of that? I don't see Cole being held back by tactics. He is around the same areas than he was when he scored for fun. He just isn't scoring with that magical level he did. No gripe towards him at all.

It is about balance of the squad. You need to get over Enzo F's fee that zero percent of you are paying and the clear hate you have towards Maresca. Neither is perfect, far from it but for the sake of this place find something positive to talk about here.

Was this ChatGPT?

Speaking about someone's deficiencies isn't slagging someone off, pick your toys up they seem to have fell out of your pram.

A lot of people agree with what i have to say so i won't be moderated by you, thank you. If you want only positivity go and read your diary.

4 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Was this ChatGPT?

Speaking about someone's deficiencies isn't slagging someone off, pick your toys up they seem to have fell out of your pram.

A lot of people agree with what i have to say so i won't be moderated by you, thank you. If you want only positivity go and read your diary.

Yes. It was ChatGPT. I never write anything without it. It is 2025 innit. 🤣

No problem with people agreeing with you. More power to you. 💪

I don't write a diary. I am all about AI remember.

I only write what me and the ol Chatty, as I call him, agree.

Have a good one, mate.

Completely absent from the game in every aspect

Agree on completely absent, but they all were. I can’t think of a single name that had a good performance.

6 hours ago, PhilH930 said:

Agree on completely absent, but they all were. I can’t think of a single name that had a good performance.

Yeah i know, even Caicedo was nowhere to be seen, the defense was a disgrace, the attacking was too shy. Finishing third in this group (which it would still be highly improbable) should b enough to get Maresca fired.

On 20/06/2025 at 00:55, evissy said:

Yes. It was ChatGPT. I never write anything without it. It is 2025 innit. 🤣

No problem with people agreeing with you. More power to you. 💪

I don't write a diary. I am all about AI remember.

I only write what me and the ol Chatty, as I call him, agree.

Have a good one, mate.

Whilst I don't agree with you on Maresca (who i think is an awful manager), I fully agree on Enzo F. He is one of the few in our squad who will fight the cause, and seems to give a sh*t.

Don't worry about ol' UB. He is a stubborn old mule, and contradiction of a poster who loves to be contrary. One of the cartel who has been advocating for Jackson to play, whilst being extremely harsh on the likes of Nkunku and Felix - not holding people to the same standards.

Another terrific performance from Enzo Fernandez.

Worth every penny !

His versatility continues to impress me. Top player, whether he plays at #6, #8 or #10, he can do it all ! First name on the team sheet. We are so lucky to have him, and I thank God every day that Eghbali signed him for us. What an owner ! What a player !

If it ever comes down to keeping one of Palmer or Fernandez. I really hope we sell Cole.

And if it ever comes down to Caicedo or Fernandez, then I really hope we sell Moises.

Enzo is such a great leader. Much better with the armband than Reece James. We should sell Reece so that Enzo can be our permanent captain.

Captain, Leader, Bell End

11 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Another terrific performance from Enzo Fernandez.

Worth every penny !

His versatility continues to impress me. Top player, whether he plays at #6, #8 or #10, he can do it all ! First name on the team sheet. We are so lucky to have him, and I thank God every day that Eghbali signed him for us. What an owner ! What a player !

If it ever comes down to keeping one of Palmer or Fernandez. I really hope we sell Cole.

And if it ever comes down to Caicedo or Fernandez, then I really hope we sell Moises.

Enzo is such a great leader. Much better with the armband than Reece James. We should sell Reece so that Enzo can be our permanent captain.

Captain, Leader, Bell End

I think in a 3 man midfield he could do well, but in our current system he's genuinely the biggest liability in the starting 11. Even Caicedo looks worse as a result of having to do all the defensive work by himself.

If there's any club interested we really should jump at it, or at least make Lavia-Caicedo the first choice midfield.

Reminds me of Pogba at Utd. The entire team needs to be built around him to get even a semi-decent performance out of him. 6 league goals last season and somehow certain forum members think he's the next lord and saviour. Would be a steady option for rotation but for some reason the ownership think he should be our franchise player.

Can anyone tell me what he's actually elite at? He has good long range passing but he's too much of a liability to play in front of the defense.

48 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Reminds me of Pogba at Utd. The entire team needs to be built around him to get even a semi-decent performance out of him. 6 league goals last season and somehow certain forum members think he's the next lord and saviour. Would be a steady option for rotation but for some reason the ownership think he should be our franchise player.

Can anyone tell me what he's actually elite at? He has good long range passing but he's too much of a liability to play in front of the defense.

I think his passing in general is elite, especially passes in behind the defence, not just long passes.

I think he is good at, perhaps not elite, are workrate.His tackling is pretty bad, although getting better each season, but he recovers the ball for us quite a lot high up the pitch. He also has better movement in the final third than anyone else we have bar Palmer.

Now you can argue that paying 100m for basically a technical Connor Gallagher isn't worth it and I wouldn’t have any complaints but he has clear strengths and isn’t this completely useless player some think he is.

2 hours ago, Remodez said:

I think his passing in general is elite, especially passes in behind the defence, not just long passes.

I think he is good at, perhaps not elite, are workrate.His tackling is pretty bad, although getting better each season, but he recovers the ball for us quite a lot high up the pitch. He also has better movement in the final third than anyone else we have bar Palmer.

Now you can argue that paying 100m for basically a technical Connor Gallagher isn't worth it and I wouldn’t have any complaints but he has clear strengths and isn’t this completely useless player some think he is.

^^^^^This^^^^^

His position became especially difficult when Palmer and Jackson decided to take the last 6 months off.

I’d almost given up on Enzo after consistently backing him. But he’s definitely improved these last 4 months. He’s one of the few who really seems to care.

Listen, he’s a World Cup winner who did well with the national team and Benfica. The quality is there just as it is with several others who many on here have completely written off.

It’s our manager. He’s is the problem. Who has he developed other than George? I’d argue most of our squad has regressed.

Maresca’s tactics are very convoluted and technical. For his system to work he has to get players in that suit the system. What he ends up with however is our SD’s buying the players on a high turnover with finance as the driver.

This is where our whole model as a club disintegrates. Our manager is incapable of playing a system to suit the squad he is given and our SD’s are incapable of signing players who suit the system.

I absolutely believe that if we had a more tactically flexible manager he’d have us winning many more games and be entertaining doing it.

Maresca out and don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

Edit to add.

The relationship between the Sporting director and the manager is probably the most important at a football club especially when the manager has little or no involvement in signings. Ours seem as though they’ve never met. Even if we accept that finance is the driver then Maresca is still the wrong manager. He shackles the natural abilities of all our attackers with his slow play. Most of our attackers look distinctly average under Maresca which won’t be doing their transfer values any good.

Edited June 22, 20251 yr by 19seventyone