1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Apparently had pink eye past two matches.

has he had it for the last 2 and a half seasons?

A lot of noise on Enzo to Real Madrid this summer.

I’ll be absolutely delighted if we get our money back for him, or even more. We don’t need him, especially not when Santos is coming back.

Think his remaining book value is at £77m-£80m?

There's reports in Brazil that we've reached out to Rodrygo's camp, so if a deal can be agreed with the player I can see a scenario where we work with Real on a player swap in some fashion.

Rodrygo plus £20m for Enzo.

If this happens then there is a god. Madueke on the left, Palmer in the middle, Rodrygo on the right and Neto on the bench.

I see the vision, Maresca can make this work.

44 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Rodrygo plus £20m for Enzo.

If this happens then there is a god. Madueke on the left, Palmer in the middle, Rodrygo on the right and Neto on the bench.

I see the vision, Maresca can make this work.

You've already decided you don't like Estevao Willian then LOL

54 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

You've already decided you don't like Estevao Willian then LOL

Because he's not starting him?

Someone on Twitter said it’s like getting rid of Iniesta for Willian.

He actually compared Enzo to Iniesta 😂

Genuinely got me howling

49 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

Someone on Twitter said it’s like getting rid of Iniesta for Willian.

He actually compared Enzo to Iniesta 😂

Genuinely got me howling

To be fair @Gol15 used to compare Jorginho to Jesus and Jesus came third.

7 minutes ago, loz said:

To be fair @Gol15 used to compare Jorginho to Jesus and Jesus came third.

3 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Rodrygo plus £20m for Enzo.

If this happens then there is a god. Madueke on the left, Palmer in the middle, Rodrygo on the right and Neto on the bench.

I see the vision, Maresca can make this work.

Please God no. Rodrygo has never impressed me. I’d keep Enzo hands down.

And I’m not Enzo’s biggest fan.

10 minutes ago, MyWord said:

Please God no. Rodrygo has never impressed me. I’d keep Enzo hands down.

In a Nutshell.

5 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Think his remaining book value is at £77m-£80m?

There's reports in Brazil that we've reached out to Rodrygo's camp, so if a deal can be agreed with the player I can see a scenario where we work with Real on a player swap in some fashion.

🙏

6 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Rodrygo plus £20m for Enzo.

If this happens then there is a god. Madueke on the left, Palmer in the middle, Rodrygo on the right and Neto on the bench.

I see the vision, Maresca can make this work.

If Madueke is starting for us next season then we have some serious questions to ask, if we can get £40m for Noni I'd snap their hand off.

Enzo sits a bit on the fence. His skillset is excellent, he seems to be always available but there is that little feeling Premier League is not the best league for him due to the up and down quality of it. His lack of pace really stands out in the games.

In Chamoions League and many other domestic league he will produce a ton of goals and assists.

What I appreciate of him is his personality. We need heads like his much more in the team.

He is my favorite player in the team alongside Moi and Reece but I would think about the sell if we get what we paid for even if it pains me to say it.

If Lavia wasn't made of glass this would be much easier.

I would love him to stay naturally but deep down I feel he is probably not the best solution for us.

14 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Rodrygo plus £20m for Enzo.

If this happens then there is a god. Madueke on the left, Palmer in the middle, Rodrygo on the right and Neto on the bench.

I see the vision, Maresca can make this work.

Rodrygo's natural position is on the left actually. Only played on the right for Madrid because Vinicius has the left wing position locked.

In other words we desperately need a top left winger and Rodrygo fits the criteria. If he is available and we get UCL football, we better be in for him. He is a world class winger no doubt about it.

15 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

You've already decided you don't like Estevao Willian then LOL

he's 18, no way he's starting week in week out

9 hours ago, timetowaste said:

If Madueke is starting for us next season then we have some serious questions to ask, if we can get £40m for Noni I'd snap their hand off.

best winger we have by far and we aren't replacing the entire attack in one window

1 hour ago, petre ispirescu said:

Rodrygo's natural position is on the left actually. Only played on the right for Madrid because Vinicius has the left wing position locked.

In other words we desperately need a top left winger and Rodrygo fits the criteria. If he is available and we get UCL football, we better be in for him. He is a world class winger no doubt about it.

Bigger goal threat on the left, more creative on the right.

I've had enough with inverted wingers, rather have them offering natural width. Noni for example looks better on the left imo.

We've got bigger problems than Enzo. If he's happy ot stay, that's fine. If he desperately wants to move, which I could certianly understand for any of our players really, since the project they were sold is a lie, then that's ok too, but we'd need a decent replacement.

1 hour ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

he's 18, no way he's starting week in week out

If he's as good as they say he is then I don't see how he can be left out ?

Yamal starts every game for Barcelona and he is even younger than Estevao.

9 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

If he's as good as they say he is then I don't see how he can be left out ?

Yamal starts every game for Barcelona and he is even younger than Estevao.

We can't be edging all of our hopes on an 'if' though. The Premier league is so far ahead of La Liga, never mind the Brazilian league when it comes to intensity and physicality. Yamal has been nurtured by Barca for decades to walk into their team.

Going into the season without a seasoned pro would be suicide. Estevao should be eased in slowly over the next year.

20 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

If he's as good as they say he is then I don't see how he can be left out ?

Yamal starts every game for Barcelona and he is even younger than Estevao.

For me that is the problem. We're relying on what "they" say because we've never watched him play, and he hasn't even played in any European football. Look at Endrick, he was the second coming and he's been eased into Real Madrid and hasn't ripped La Liga apart. I find it normal to be cautious with the expectations about these young players. After all, it's the sporting directors getting these players, and they've got most of them horribly wrong.

2 minutes ago, RMH said:

For me that is the problem. We're relying on what "they" say because we've never watched him play, and he hasn't even played in any European football. Look at Endrick, he was the second coming and he's been eased into Real Madrid and hasn't ripped La Liga apart. I find it normal to be cautious with the expectations about these young players. After all, it's the sporting directors getting these players, and they've got most of them horribly wrong.

But he is universally regarded as the biggest talent coming out of Brazil since Neymar, bigger than Endrick.

Brazil produced fantastic footballers over past few decades, Ronaldinho, Neymar, Kaka, Carlos, Cafu, Ronaldo, the list is endless.

If Estevao could get anywhere close to these players, oh boy we have a superstar. Age doesn’t matter, if he’s good enough he’ll start games.

9 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

But he is universally regarded as the biggest talent coming out of Brazil since Neymar, bigger than Endrick.

Brazil produced fantastic footballers over past few decades, Ronaldinho, Neymar, Kaka, Carlos, Cafu, Ronaldo, the list is endless.

If Estevao could get anywhere close to these players, oh boy we have a superstar. Age doesn’t matter, if he’s good enough he’ll start games.

Ronaldinho - at Gremio until he was 21

Neymar - at Santos until he was 21

Kaka - at Sau Paolo until he was 21

R. Carlos - at Palmeras until he was 23

Cafu - at Sau Paolo until he was 25

R9 - didn't reach a top European league until he was 20

We probably do have a superstar on our hands, but not for another few years. He's a child, putting ridiculous expectations on him is counter-productive and why we see so many youngsters fail. There is no scenario where he should be starting straight away.

Edited May 21, 20251 yr by Ukraine Bolt