Didn't get his goal or anywhere one actually. He does chase down a good press better than Nkunku tough.

Overall poor though yesterday. 

13 hours ago, Nibs said:

Agreed @just - the one black mark for Maresca to date, (well two if you include his treatment of Carney).

Great that we beat Spurs today and did so with Sanchez, Badiashille and Jackson who were all poor. Jackson was a passenger today. When he doesn't get on the score sheet he offers very little. Should have been subbed earlier.

Agreed - but he did prevent the enzo booking. Ive mentioned it earlier in the thread but do you not think that In general this season when he's not scoing you feel him far less, compared to last season where he seemed to drop deep a lot, be heavily invovled in build up play but would often fluf his lines at the crtical moment. ... just wondering how much of that is coming from Maresca.

 

Regardless I'd like to see Nkuku start on Sunday , I don't think it's a bad ting for Jackson to have a rest. 

A shockingly poor situation when the best that can be said about this sorry excuse for a player is “he stopped a player getting booked”.….

…..and yet STILL some people defend him. It’s a really odd thing. He is Rubbish.

 

Alas….I will add this to the long list of games when he has been piss poor this season - Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Brighton Bournemouth, forest, Palace, Villa and now spurs. For reference - a popular football rating website saw him score between 6.2 and 7.5 for all these games….(ie - he was rubbish).

He has still only played well against West Ham (9.0) and Leicester (8.1), with half decent spells against wolves (7.8) and Newcastle (7.6). That’s it. Still only scored higher than 8 twice!  And still people defend him! 

And before people say these scoring sites are flawed (I agree btw!) - this is the more generous way to appraise him, because if we were going off the eye test, then he is going to come off even worse!

 

 

Best thing about him today he stopped Enzo getting a yellow card. 

2 hours ago, Andy North said:

Didn't get his goal or anywhere one actually. He does chase down a good press better than Nkunku tough.

Overall poor though yesterday. 

Don't know about that Andy. N'kunku is better in the air than Jacko. 

In rgds to the game:

Tbh both Jackson and nkunku were just ways of opening up space against spurs which left the others open and playing. Spurs marked them heavily, I guess it was ange's tactics. They both did their part and contributed off the ball. 

But fk all that...+3 to the above rgdn the yellow. 🤣 

I loved it, he stopped Enzo from getting a yellow and a ban. Fkn brilliant.

Also, you can see his emotion in the game. He was tearing up when being subbed off. 

 

Jacko jacko jacko... I'm sorry but a 23 Yr old kid in his 2nd top flight season (or 3rd, if including italy), his background, his improvements on and off the ball, the emotions he showed for Chels as he came off...then shame on ppl just fkn laying into him, i don't care what anyone on here says, have a fkn heart and support the kid(s).

The kid has soo much heart, you can see he also wears it on his sleeve, loves our club and deserves our fkn support just for those points alone.

He's young and learning his trade...and he's doing really well. Sry guys but I can't engage in this bs aimed towards the kid every week. 

Edited December 9, 20241 yr by Simplymo

Some classics from the matchday thread....thought nice to round up and summerise here....

And to think there are some posters on here who think that this clown deserves to play for Chelsea!

 

20 hours ago, JPH said:

Jackson is so missing fotballing intelligence. 

20 hours ago, Cfc91 said:

Jackson has had an awful start

 

20 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

Jackson is annoying me already.

 

19 hours ago, POCH OUT said:

Ffs Jackson 

 

19 hours ago, dR3 said:

Jackson f**ked that counter up big time ffs

 

19 hours ago, timetowaste said:

Oh f**k off Jackson you clown

 

19 hours ago, just said:

Jackson ran behind a player took the angle away from Enzo. Then he had a moan.

And..... Jacko has just given the ball away in a promising attack.

 

19 hours ago, CFCCAN said:

Jackson..what a f**king clown..3 on 2 and he screws it up

 

19 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Don't care what the stats say, we've got to get a striker who has more awareness of what is around him.

 

19 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

Jackson is so sh*t. Anybody that actually thinks he has intelligence is not watching him.

 

19 hours ago, Gunslinger said:

Another domestic league game and another Jackson sh*t show. Nkuku should be firing in that transfer request.

 

19 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

Jackson having a stinker. Shame because on his day he’d be feasting today.

 

19 hours ago, just said:

Cucurella is having a complete mare so far. We need calm heads, he doesn't have one.

 

19 hours ago, Gunslinger said:

Caicedo and Jackson need subbed. One will get sent off and the other is absolutely useless 

 

19 hours ago, SFL82 said:

Being offside there is unforgivable no need at all 

 

 

19 hours ago, POCH OUT said:

Too slow Jackson

 

19 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

Get him off.

 

19 hours ago, dR3 said:

Nico needs to work on his touch, always a bit too heavy.

 

19 hours ago, timetowaste said:

Jackson running like he's playing in treacle 

 

19 hours ago, just said:

Jackson. Everyone make sure you give Jim £10 for that. 

 

19 hours ago, Victor90 said:

Jackson shat his pants again 

 

19 hours ago, Gunslinger said:

Honestly the manager is doing my head in with his sheer bias to Jackson. The guys a donkey, we are going to lose a lethal finisher because of his refusal to accept the truth.

 

19 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

I always feel like Jackson doesn't know what he is doing.

 

19 hours ago, JPH said:

Jackson off immediately! 

 

19 hours ago, Victor90 said:

That's the problem with Jackson, he'll have about 2 good minutes per game and that's it. Horrible in a game like this. 

 

19 hours ago, 19seventyone said:

A day for Jim.

Jackson has been stinking. It’s like he has weights on his ankles.

This is definitely a game where Nkunku can change it.

Still convinced we’ll win.

 

19 hours ago, Snedger said:

Sloppy sh*t all round. And Sanchez is a complete joke of a keeper.

And Jackson looks as bang average as a striker can possibly look. Not very quick, not very strong, not a great first touch. But  we ain’t got much choice, so Jackson it is. 

 

19 hours ago, JM7 said:

Can we get Jackson off

 

19 hours ago, just said:

If Jackson continues as he has played so far, and Werner scores for them, you all have to give @nonotnowjim £1000 each. The debate will be over.

 

18 hours ago, POCH OUT said:

Is Jackson playing?

 

18 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Jackson's touch ffs

 

18 hours ago, TheSage said:

How is Jackson still on? Ridiculous!

 

18 hours ago, El regreso said:

Needs to take Jackson off now he’s not at it today. Hook him!!

 

18 hours ago, Gunslinger said:

Jackson with one of the most useless performances from a striker you will ever see.

 

18 hours ago, PhilH930 said:

Jackson isn’t doing enough. Make a change 

 

18 hours ago, CFCCAN said:

Jackson needs to be booked for that....f**king clown act...as usual..

13 minutes ago, Simplymo said:

In rgds to the game:

Tbh both Jackson and nkunku were just ways of opening up space against spurs which left the others open and playing. Spurs marked them heavily, I guess it was ange's tactics. They both did their part and contributed off the ball. 

But fk all that...+3 to the above rgdn the yellow. 🤣 

I loved it, he stopped Enzo from getting a yellow and a ban. Fkn brilliant.

Also, you can see his emotion in the game. He was tearing up when being subbed off. 

 

Jacko jacko jacko... I'm sorry but a 23 Yr old kid in his 2nd top flight season (or 3rd, if including italy), his background, his improvements on and off the ball, the emotions he showed for Chels as he came off...then shame on ppl just fkn laying into him, i don't care what anyone on here says, have a fkn heart and support the kid(s).

The kid has soo much heart, you can see he also wears it on his sleeve, loves our club and deserves our fkn support just for those points alone.

He's young and learning his trade...and he's doing really well. Sry guys but I can't engage in this bs aimed towards the kid every week. 

He needs to go. He isnt good enough. He is rubbish. Having heart isnt enough. Put any of us in a Chelsea shirt and we will also show heart and try....it doesnt mean we deserve a free pass to play for chelsea. 

2 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

And to think there are some posters on here who think that this clown deserves to play for Chelsea!

Coming from the bloke that rates Werner when his performance last night was so bad we all got second hand embarrassment, and he was playing for the opposition. 

Just now, Sconnie Blue said:

Coming from the bloke that rates Werner when his performance last night was so bad we all got second hand embarrassment, and he was playing for the opposition. 

Werner is a lovely boy. Leave him alone. 

 

And even if Werner is sh*t, Jackson is worse.

Edited December 9, 20241 yr by nonotnowjim

 

10 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

He needs to go. He isnt good enough. He is rubbish. Having heart isnt enough. Put any of us in a Chelsea shirt and we will also show heart and try....it doesnt mean we deserve a free pass to play for chelsea. 

Mate, you can do and say what you like bud. It's all good, it's the Internet.

I just choose not to engage with bullsh*t and bullocks aimed at a 23yr old, that is trying his best, learning his trade and wears his heart on his sleeve for our club nearly every week! Sometimes more!

He's a Chelsea player. By now we all have a rough idea what everyone thinks and done. Why you choose to keep at it every week that's upto you, I choose not to.

Personally, I have a 21yr old, and I just find it quite sad at the sh*t aimed at wacko when you and everyone can see he is trying to learn and do his best.

I hope Maresca sees all the negative stuff aimed at jacko and doubles down. It's what a good mentor/coach/etc would do. If he's putting in the effort in training, learning, and doing what he's supposed to do on the pitch then I really do hope Maresca shows him the love every supporter should be showing.

You think jacko is rubbish...thats absolutely fine bud. Window is in January, if someone else is available and better then why not, I'm with you. But until then...

 

BTW, I don't care if its wacko, cucu, nkunku or even the disaster brothers. There's a limit...as a supporter, I choose to stand by the team, especially if they are putting the hard graft in. If they ain't any good, again  that's fine. Window opens twice a year. 

1 hour ago, just said:

Don't know about that Andy. N'kunku is better in the air than Jacko. 

Yes he is and his time is coming.

I thought it would have come sooner but Jacko's been scoring. I also thought Jacko would have got a ban by now but he seems to have realised his temperament could cost him his place. He hasn't been booked for a while and even prevented Enzo getting sent off for taking his shirt off .

If Nkunku keeps his head up he'll be in the team before Xmas and Jacko can play the Kalou role.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Andy North said:

If Nkunku keeps his head up he'll be in the team before Xmas and Jacko can play the Kalou role.

I think a good idea (which won't happen) is to switch Jackson to the Europa (Conference, but we'll leave that word out so it sounds better) team and put Nkunku into the starting Prem team! I reckon it would help both players right now!

3 minutes ago, Mod said:

I think a good idea (which won't happen) is to switch Jackson to the Europa (Conference, but we'll leave that word out so it sounds better) team and put Nkunku into the starting Prem team! I reckon it would help both players right now!

Yep - or Nkunku to the EPL, and Guiu to the Europa, and Wacko to the real conference (Vanarama whatever its called)

He was crying leaving the pitch as he knew he didn’t perform well so I want a reaction from him.

 

22 minutes ago, Andy North said:

Yes he is and his time is coming.

I thought it would have come sooner but Jacko's been scoring. I also thought Jacko would have got a ban by now but he seems to have realised his temperament could cost him his place. He hasn't been booked for a while and even prevented Enzo getting sent off for taking his shirt off .

If Nkunku keeps his head up he'll be in the team before Xmas and Jacko can play the Kalou role.

 

 

*I think the game against Southampton that he had to miss for yellows was good for his learning curve, lol. He was absolutely brilliant in stopping Enzo jnr in getting a yellow.

The kid is learning, they all are but he's also learning the basics he's missed by not being from an academy setup from a young age. 

17 minutes ago, Mod said:

I think a good idea (which won't happen) is to switch Jackson to the Europa (Conference, but we'll leave that word out so it sounds better) team and put Nkunku into the starting Prem team! I reckon it would help both players right now!

 

I think both jacko and nkunku did their roles well yesterday. In the analysis vids I watched yesterday** it showed how much space they were opening up for Enzo, cucu, lavia then gusto. Even palmer in the 2nd half found space because they occupied the cbs really well. Was it espn, I think, showed the boxes/circles of how much space there was by jacko and nkunku staying put and not coming too deep at times to help with link up.

Like I posted in the game thread, Maresca is tactically superior to ange. Love it and can't wait for the next few seasons, them to "mature" and gain experience.

 

 

** I seem to be hooked to YouTube this last week. I've never stayed this long watching anything on YouTube, let alone scrolling and looking for vids! 

Edited December 9, 20241 yr by Simplymo

You just know @nonotnowjim was sat at home with some lube when he was compiling all those posts

27 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

You just know @nonotnowjim was sat at home with some lube when he was compiling all those posts

lube?.... I like it rough!

7 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Some classics from the matchday thread....thought nice to round up and summerise here....

And to think there are some posters on here who think that this clown deserves to play for Chelsea!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Call me crazy, but I think you're starting to come around on Jackson!!!

Edited December 9, 20241 yr by PhilH930

He's been called thick & unitelligent on here. Stopping Enzo getting a booking for taking his shirt off during a celebration shows quite the opposite actually. he's always thinking and always on it. It also shows that he thinks about the team. It also shows he cares about Enzo,that action shows a lot of really positive traits. 

He works his socks off but he was also really bang average yesterday. Stopping Enzo being carded just showed that this group of players are fighting and helping each other and the result mattered more than personal goals. He will always cop stick but he always looking to improve. 

2 hours ago, PhilH930 said:

Call me crazy, but I think you're starting to come around on Jackson!!!

Nah, he has loved him from the start.

This is just an act, I mean Jim is just one of @dkwalternative accounts right? ;)

7 hours ago, bluetrooper said:

He's been called thick & unitelligent on here. Stopping Enzo getting a booking for taking his shirt off during a celebration shows quite the opposite actually. he's always thinking and always on it. It also shows that he thinks about the team. It also shows he cares about Enzo,that action shows a lot of really positive traits. 

He works his socks off but he was also really bang average yesterday. Stopping Enzo being carded just showed that this group of players are fighting and helping each other and the result mattered more than personal goals. He will always cop stick but he always looking to improve. 

Conversely we were very close to having the whole atmosphere of our performance and the media narrative against changed again if his crying at being substituted had continued to escalate. The TV director sensed it as well as they made the camera pan in on him and stayed on him all the time he trudged off, pulling the shirt over his head.

I confess that at that point I was holding my breath, half expecting another Kepa type scenario unfolding, much to the horrified delight and mockery of the scouse w*nker on commentary.

Whilst I find the inconsistency in his touch, awareness, and general on ball technique frustrating I will concede that the stats illustrate he contributes to the side. Its this other side to his on field personality I am really uncomfortable with. One of the biggest achievements from Maresca thus far is the quietening of this negative media narrative,  the last thing we need is this guy undoing this due to some of the antics we have seen from him.

12 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

Conversely we were very close to having the whole atmosphere of our performance and the media narrative against changed again if his crying at being substituted had continued to escalate. The TV director sensed it as well as they made the camera pan in on him and stayed on him all the time he trudged off, pulling the shirt over his head.

I confess that at that point I was holding my breath, half expecting another Kepa type scenario unfolding, much to the horrified delight and mockery of the scouse w*nker on commentary.

Whilst I find the inconsistency in his touch, awareness, and general on ball technique frustrating I will concede that the stats illustrate he contributes to the side. Its this other side to his on field personality I am really uncomfortable with. One of the biggest achievements from Maresca thus far is the quietening of this negative media narrative,  the last thing we need is this guy undoing this due to some of the antics we have seen from him.

The pulling his shirt over his head annoyed the hell out of me. You're being subbed off after a less than stellar performance of your own doing, not stretchered off with a career threatening injury, FFS, man up!

Unfortunately he has a few stinkers in his locker and that was one of them.

I’m hoping he will learn to stop having bad games because he’s a fantastic player on his day and we would have destroyed Spurs easily if he was playing well. I’m not saying he would have scored a hat trick but his link up and team play would have caused havoc.

If he continues to play badly over Christmas then I agree it’s probably a good time to give Nkunku a couple of starts.

He's the clownshoe version of Drogba but the kid runs.

Needs to improve a lot more to lead a line for a top 4 team.